If you think about, it's worse to say omg, than f**k. The first one, you're tolf not to say it right in the ten commandments. No where in the Bible does it say "Though shalt not say the 'F', word". amirite?
Press the report button, then write at the bottom that you want it changed.
Also, you spelled "Thou" wrong, "Nowhere" is one word, you spelled "told" wrong, and your point doesn't make as much sense when you censor the swear word.
People need to chill out. Aside from the "I am your only god love none but me" every commandment should be a principle moral rule book for everyone regardless of religion. Just cause your not cristian doesn't mean suddenly murdering stealing and cheating are ok
I'm just tired of religious people saying that people in prison aren't real Christians, Muslims, Jews, whatever... They may not be practicing the religion the same as most people, but that does not change the fact that they belong to those religions.
I can claim to be a rainbow-coloured rapist monkey.
Regardless of that, you are right, sinning doesn't make you not religious; everybody sins. If you are sincerely sorry for your sins you will be forgiven, no matter which sins you commited.
You can claim to be whatever you want, but anything dealing with what you are physically can be easily shot down. You could tell me that you are part of a group of people who BELIEVE that they are rainbow-colored rapist monkeys and I would be unable to prove you wrong.
That's my point. Even though you may not be catholic the ten commandments, or at least most of them, are still good rules to live by. So don't jump on the guy when he says it's important cause it's in the ten commandments
I am not religious by any means, but I practice all the Ten Commandments, even the one about taking the Lord's name in vain. I look as that one as more of a commandment about respecting other religions though. Buy yeah, all the commandments are really just common sense stuff, some people just need to be told not to do them.
What he should say is that it's important because it's a good moral belief. Being in the ten commandments doesn't make it important, because there were still punishments handed out for murder and stealing BEFORE Christianity came around so obviously God didn't make these commandments important. So it's quite annoying for people to act like Christianity brought the world to morality when in all honesty, it's been that way for a while.
You could argue that Christianity did in fact bring the world to morality. I would strongly disagree and that's a whole different argument entirely. What I'm saying is gave a reason to follow many of said important rules. Before devotion to cristianity almost all of the deterrent against murder was consequences. After religion it became more than that.
Ahahahahaha oh god I hope your not serious. And a whole half of the bible called the OLD TESTAMENT about Christianity before christ showed up. Clever blend of troll and stupid
Actually, Christianity did not form until Jesus' time. Before him, there was just Judaism, which is why Christians and Jews both accept the Old Testament.
I enjoy Anon vs anon fights, nobody pulls punches for the sake of their profile reputation. That makes sense although it is true that the term cristian and cristianity are used throughout parts of the old testament. Which would cause some to believe it existed prior christ.
I can see how that would play a part. From what I've learned, the Old Testament and the rest of the Bible weren't actually written until after Jesus' time. They could have been using christian as a generalizing term, as Christianity and Judaism were very similar.
I looked at it more as old religious storytelling around the campfire, but yeah, that's essentially what it was. One reason the Bible's validity is being debated is that the stories were written down hundreds to thousands of years after the events actually happened.
I don't think this was directed towards non-religious people too much. Most Christians are gung-ho about cursing because it's offensive...well they think it's offensive only because they believe it's a sin. But as you said, no verse that I know of mentions cursing but they do mention NOT saying God's name in vain, which is why I get annoyed when christians do that right after they got done telling me not to say fuck.
You wouldn't be using His name in vain if you were just making an observation... It's like how it's considered impolite to use hell in a context like, "what the hell!", but not, for example, in a situation like, "Hell is described in the Bible as the fiery afterlife for the unworthy presided over by Satan".
I still didn't want to do it out of respect. I think saying it even when giving an example is kinda bad. Like, if I quote someone saying the f word, I still swore.
But the difference between saying "fuck", and "god", is that 'fuck' is vulgar no matter the context. 'God' is only bad to say when YOU are using it in vain.
If you use his name in vain it's vulgar. And the only time you can say that phrase without it misusing God's name is if you're actually talking to God.
But then again, it's also written in the Bible that you can't cook a lamb in it's mother's milk, so undoubtedly not the most trustworthy source. I believe it's "Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk" - Exodus 23:19. I'm not sure though.
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just sick of people using this one. The Bible said several times in the New Testament that this law was no longer needed and that's why Christians don't keep kosher.
Please, stop using laws that have already been abolished within the bible itself that you got off of an internet list.
The atonement fullfilled the purpose fo the old laws so after Christ came to earth and ascended into heaven a lot of theold laws were no longer needed. Like, circumcision.
And lamb in it's mother's milk is part of keeping kosher, you can't mix meat with dairy when you're kosher.
Jesus dieing so that others' sins would be forgiven always is unrelated the purpose of, for example, "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast". I mean to say, I'm sure God would have just as much against yeast before and after Jesus was crucified.
God did have humoungus influnce in the laws though, but utlimately the prophets were the ones who relayed the messages and teachers of religious law were always makign their own rules about sacrifices and worship and stuff.
Well, who was saying it? Give me the full exact quote.
It's not particularly challenging to replace "God" with "me."
Even if it was God who said that, why is it a bad thing not to sacrifice? God did make some rules, just not all of them. If 2 rules contradict each other, go with the New Testament.
Full exact quote: "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast..." - Exodus 34:25.
My main point is that if God commands something as ridiculous as that, it's hard to take his other laws seriously. I mean, why did he even make yeast if he hates it so much?
"If 2 rules contradict each other, go with the New Testament." As for this, I don't think there is another rule that contradicts with it in the New Testament. Even if it does, this is still a worthy argument against Judaism.
What's so ridiculous about that? Not everything was created for the sole purpose of being sacrificed. There are other uses for yeast.
As I may have said earlier (I'm too lazy to check), I've never read the Bible, but you said earlier that "I'm sure God would have just as much against yeast before and after Jesus was crucified." I assumed that the Bible quote was from the New Testament, and based on the context that it was meant to cancel out something from the Old Testament. Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ (hence the name), so the New Testament wins. Since this quote wasn't from the New Testament, this entire debate is invalid.
" Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ (hence the name), so the New Testament wins. Since this quote wasn't from the New Testament, this entire debate is invalid."
This debate has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said. There isn't a law contradicting the yeast law in the new testament, and, as such, there is nothing going against the old testament law.
As for your first piece, God is saying in this quote "do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast...", meaning he wants absolutely NO yeast. Not so much that yeast is not necessary for a sacrifice, as you are insinuating.
You said that the quote was from the New Testament, and all of my arguments were based on the assumption that you were correct. If it wasn't, then I have no idea why yeast was not forbidden until then. However, I'm pretty sure that Jesus said you don't have to sacrifice anything, so this law doesn't really matter to Christians anyway.
I wasn't saying what you said I was saying (I probably could have worded that better). I was saying that just because God doesn't want yeast in His sacrifices, doesn't mean He shouldn't have created it, contrary to what you said.
Isn't Exodus a part of the old Testament? (referring to your first paragraph)
My main point with the yeast thing was that if God has a law as ridiculous as 'there will be absolutely NO yeast in sacrifices', then it's hard to take other laws in the Bible seriously.
Yes it was, but earlier you said that Jesus said it, or something. I have no idea why it says that.
The Old Testament is ridiculous because it says you can't sacrifice yeast. So the part that says gay people should die, men can't have sex with women on their periods, and you're not allowed to masturbate, is perfectly normal to you.
If Jesus says we can be forgiven without sacrificing anything, then whatever was said before concerning sacrifices doesn't really matter.
I'm not sure how Jewish people handle all of these laws, but I'm not Jewish. They probably don't understand Christianity very well either.
Well even if you don't need to sacrifice anything, you still might want to, and having yeast in the sacrifice would still be a sin, whether or not you need to sacrifice.
That's not about cursing...that's actually about lying. "But above all things, my brethren, do not swear, either by Heaven or by the earth, or with any other oath. Let your 'yes' be simply 'yes,' and your 'no' be simply 'no;' that you may not come under condemnation." James 5:12
It's like when at court you "swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help you God" That is definitely NOT a verse about cussing.
Too bad not everyone is religious.
Assuming everyone on here listens to the Bible = big no-no.
I wasn't assuming everyone was religious, this was mostly directed at religious people who read the post.
Next time start with "Christians:"
Well, it's a bit late now, isn't it?
You can report your own post and ask them to change it for you. I think.
How would I do that?
Press the report button, then write at the bottom that you want it changed.
Also, you spelled "Thou" wrong, "Nowhere" is one word, you spelled "told" wrong, and your point doesn't make as much sense when you censor the swear word.
Thanks. Well now I feel like crap.
But omg is only 3 syllables. F asterisk asterisk k is 8. That's why I prefer omg.
Bible =/= what I care about
At first i thought "tolf" was one of those old english words and I was really excited about using a new one, then I realized and was sad.
"Oh God, don't say fuck that's offensive!"
"God didn't say fuck, I did. And don't tell God what to say, that's offensive!"
People need to chill out. Aside from the "I am your only god love none but me" every commandment should be a principle moral rule book for everyone regardless of religion. Just cause your not cristian doesn't mean suddenly murdering stealing and cheating are ok
Non Christians don't think it's okay to do that stuff. As a matter of fact, only 1% of the prison population are non-religious/atheists.
I'm just tired of religious people saying that people in prison aren't real Christians, Muslims, Jews, whatever... They may not be practicing the religion the same as most people, but that does not change the fact that they belong to those religions.
As long as you believe the religion you can claim to be part of that religion.
I can claim to be a rainbow-coloured rapist monkey.
Regardless of that, you are right, sinning doesn't make you not religious; everybody sins. If you are sincerely sorry for your sins you will be forgiven, no matter which sins you commited.
You can claim to be whatever you want, but anything dealing with what you are physically can be easily shot down. You could tell me that you are part of a group of people who BELIEVE that they are rainbow-colored rapist monkeys and I would be unable to prove you wrong.
That's my point. Even though you may not be catholic the ten commandments, or at least most of them, are still good rules to live by. So don't jump on the guy when he says it's important cause it's in the ten commandments
I am not religious by any means, but I practice all the Ten Commandments, even the one about taking the Lord's name in vain. I look as that one as more of a commandment about respecting other religions though. Buy yeah, all the commandments are really just common sense stuff, some people just need to be told not to do them.
What he should say is that it's important because it's a good moral belief. Being in the ten commandments doesn't make it important, because there were still punishments handed out for murder and stealing BEFORE Christianity came around so obviously God didn't make these commandments important. So it's quite annoying for people to act like Christianity brought the world to morality when in all honesty, it's been that way for a while.
You could argue that Christianity did in fact bring the world to morality. I would strongly disagree and that's a whole different argument entirely. What I'm saying is gave a reason to follow many of said important rules. Before devotion to cristianity almost all of the deterrent against murder was consequences. After religion it became more than that.
Isn't the fact that murder came before cristianity arguable. Not for any particular reason other than no one can possibly know?
We can know. There were people around before Christ...that's why there's an entire era of history called BC....BEFORE CHRIST. Look it up.
Ahahahahaha oh god I hope your not serious. And a whole half of the bible called the OLD TESTAMENT about Christianity before christ showed up. Clever blend of troll and stupid
Actually, Christianity did not form until Jesus' time. Before him, there was just Judaism, which is why Christians and Jews both accept the Old Testament.
I enjoy Anon vs anon fights, nobody pulls punches for the sake of their profile reputation. That makes sense although it is true that the term cristian and cristianity are used throughout parts of the old testament. Which would cause some to believe it existed prior christ.
I can see how that would play a part. From what I've learned, the Old Testament and the rest of the Bible weren't actually written until after Jesus' time. They could have been using christian as a generalizing term, as Christianity and Judaism were very similar.
Very true. It's kinda like a 2000 year old game of telephone isn't it
I looked at it more as old religious storytelling around the campfire, but yeah, that's essentially what it was. One reason the Bible's validity is being debated is that the stories were written down hundreds to thousands of years after the events actually happened.
I don't think this was directed towards non-religious people too much. Most Christians are gung-ho about cursing because it's offensive...well they think it's offensive only because they believe it's a sin. But as you said, no verse that I know of mentions cursing but they do mention NOT saying God's name in vain, which is why I get annoyed when christians do that right after they got done telling me not to say fuck.
Yes, THANK YOU.
I wasn't assuming or implying everyone on amirite was religious. You think I'm that dumb people?
It's pretty bad when you say "fuck god" though. Lots of people don't like that.
Ephesians 5:4 ''Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving'
Reminds me of Daniel Tosh's Completely Serious:
I'm surprised that none of these comments mention that "omg" can also mean "oh my gosh" and that's what a lot of people mean when they say it.
I only typed it like that so I wouldn't actually have to type it.
So much effort to actually type out, "oh my god".
No, I mean I didn't want to have to use God's name in vain just to prove my own stupid point on a website.
You wouldn't be using His name in vain if you were just making an observation... It's like how it's considered impolite to use hell in a context like, "what the hell!", but not, for example, in a situation like, "Hell is described in the Bible as the fiery afterlife for the unworthy presided over by Satan".
I still didn't want to do it out of respect. I think saying it even when giving an example is kinda bad. Like, if I quote someone saying the f word, I still swore.
Well, yeah. But that's because the context of the word is still the same.
Well the context would still be the same if I said the phras in full, even if it was just an example.
But the difference between saying "fuck", and "god", is that 'fuck' is vulgar no matter the context. 'God' is only bad to say when YOU are using it in vain.
But saying omg (imagine that's uncencored) in any context, unless you're actually talking to God, is using his name in vain.
But you personally aren't saying God's name in vain if you're simply quoting what someone else said. Because you don't mean it that way.
Then I'm not actually swearing if I say the f word because I'm quoting someone? It's the same thing.
But the word 'fuck' itself is vulgar. God isn't.
On a side note, why didn't my HTML work? It usually does on amirite D:
No idea, I'm not technologically savvy.
If you use his name in vain it's vulgar. And the only time you can say that phrase without it misusing God's name is if you're actually talking to God.
Well, I guess I'll trust you.
Go read the Catechism
But then again, it's also written in the Bible that you can't cook a lamb in it's mother's milk, so undoubtedly not the most trustworthy source. I believe it's "Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk" - Exodus 23:19. I'm not sure though.
facepalm
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just sick of people using this one. The Bible said several times in the New Testament that this law was no longer needed and that's why Christians don't keep kosher.
Please, stop using laws that have already been abolished within the bible itself that you got off of an internet list.
Why would God, omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent, mess up and give a law to the citizens of Earth that would later be repealed?
face effing palm
It wasn't a correction of a mistake, it was gotten rid of because it was no longer necessary. With Jesus the old law had been fullfilled.
What does Jesus have to do with necessity for never cooking lambs in their mother's milk?
The atonement fullfilled the purpose fo the old laws so after Christ came to earth and ascended into heaven a lot of theold laws were no longer needed. Like, circumcision.
And lamb in it's mother's milk is part of keeping kosher, you can't mix meat with dairy when you're kosher.
Jesus dieing so that others' sins would be forgiven always is unrelated the purpose of, for example, "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast". I mean to say, I'm sure God would have just as much against yeast before and after Jesus was crucified.
God didn't create the laws. Mankind did. God DID, however, create the commandments.
God did have humoungus influnce in the laws though, but utlimately the prophets were the ones who relayed the messages and teachers of religious law were always makign their own rules about sacrifices and worship and stuff.
In the Bible it says "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to ME" not "to GOD".
Well, who was saying it? Give me the full exact quote.
It's not particularly challenging to replace "God" with "me."
Even if it was God who said that, why is it a bad thing not to sacrifice? God did make some rules, just not all of them. If 2 rules contradict each other, go with the New Testament.
Full exact quote: "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast..." - Exodus 34:25.
My main point is that if God commands something as ridiculous as that, it's hard to take his other laws seriously. I mean, why did he even make yeast if he hates it so much?
"If 2 rules contradict each other, go with the New Testament." As for this, I don't think there is another rule that contradicts with it in the New Testament. Even if it does, this is still a worthy argument against Judaism.
What's so ridiculous about that? Not everything was created for the sole purpose of being sacrificed. There are other uses for yeast.
As I may have said earlier (I'm too lazy to check), I've never read the Bible, but you said earlier that "I'm sure God would have just as much against yeast before and after Jesus was crucified." I assumed that the Bible quote was from the New Testament, and based on the context that it was meant to cancel out something from the Old Testament. Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ (hence the name), so the New Testament wins. Since this quote wasn't from the New Testament, this entire debate is invalid.
" Christians believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ (hence the name), so the New Testament wins. Since this quote wasn't from the New Testament, this entire debate is invalid."
This debate has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said. There isn't a law contradicting the yeast law in the new testament, and, as such, there is nothing going against the old testament law.
As for your first piece, God is saying in this quote "do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast...", meaning he wants absolutely NO yeast. Not so much that yeast is not necessary for a sacrifice, as you are insinuating.
You said that the quote was from the New Testament, and all of my arguments were based on the assumption that you were correct. If it wasn't, then I have no idea why yeast was not forbidden until then. However, I'm pretty sure that Jesus said you don't have to sacrifice anything, so this law doesn't really matter to Christians anyway.
I wasn't saying what you said I was saying (I probably could have worded that better). I was saying that just because God doesn't want yeast in His sacrifices, doesn't mean He shouldn't have created it, contrary to what you said.
Isn't Exodus a part of the old Testament? (referring to your first paragraph)
My main point with the yeast thing was that if God has a law as ridiculous as 'there will be absolutely NO yeast in sacrifices', then it's hard to take other laws in the Bible seriously.
Yes it was, but earlier you said that Jesus said it, or something. I have no idea why it says that.
The Old Testament is ridiculous because it says you can't sacrifice yeast. So the part that says gay people should die, men can't have sex with women on their periods, and you're not allowed to masturbate, is perfectly normal to you.
If Jesus says we can be forgiven without sacrificing anything, then whatever was said before concerning sacrifices doesn't really matter.
I'm not sure how Jewish people handle all of these laws, but I'm not Jewish. They probably don't understand Christianity very well either.
Well even if you don't need to sacrifice anything, you still might want to, and having yeast in the sacrifice would still be a sin, whether or not you need to sacrifice.
Colossians 3:8 "But now you must put them away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth."
"you shall not swear by the heavens above, the earth below, nor the waters below the earth."
That's not about cursing...that's actually about lying. "But above all things, my brethren, do not swear, either by Heaven or by the earth, or with any other oath. Let your 'yes' be simply 'yes,' and your 'no' be simply 'no;' that you may not come under condemnation." James 5:12
It's like when at court you "swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help you God" That is definitely NOT a verse about cussing.