if i say 'from what i've heard of it, it doesnt seem too great', my opinion on it would be valid. it's just a question of whether or not i have valuable information to bring to the table.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well if you have absolutely zero knowledge about the subject, you probably don't have an opinion. How does one have an opinion on something they haven't even heard of?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is the perfect post to start a debate about the Bible. Only seldom few could even argue, and of those, even less could argue against it, and of those, exactly none would be correct.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually people probably weren't gonna talk about the bible. But you so graciously brought it up...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obviously I know that. But it is a prime opportunity.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And to your previous comment: I've read the bible, yet I'm still against it. Just because someone argues against something doesn't mean they know nothing about it

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uh-huh. Forgive me for not believing you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you just so appalled that someone who's read the bible doesn't believe what it says? That, my friend, is called denial. I go to a catholic school, so yes, I've read quite a bit of the bible. Now forgive ME for not following the crowd and blindly accepting what it says.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh you've read SOME of the Bible, not all, as you claimed. You said you read it, implying you've read it in its entirety. Which is a lie.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When people say they've READ the bible, they most likely don't mean the whole entire thing. That being said, you don't have to read the entire thing to know you don't like it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, but reading five verses won't suffice either. Also, I don't hold much confidence in your "Catholic school." Have you read Matthew in it's entirety? Genesis? Luke? Acts? Romans? Ephesians? The Corinthians?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Funny how you know nothing about my school, yet you're saying its not a good school. I dont pay attention to the religion aspect of the school, because quite frankly, I don't care. I've never read them in their entirety, but I've read enough of them to know I don't like them. Like I said, you don't need to read the whole thing to know you don't like it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ah so it's gone from "all" to "most" to "some" to practically "none." I just don't think the catholic denomination upholds the Bible very well.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well I don't know, because I don't care. So sure, we'll go with that...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

dude, honestly i think youre trollin, dude. but if you arent, then you give christians a bad name.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uh-huh. Wrong on the first account, and honestly, I'm ashamed to call myself Christian for all the frauds.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

if youre so ashamed, then dont call yourself one. the mere fact that you just said that, along with other things that you said as well as your general attitude, proves that even though you call yourself a christian, youre not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Based on what? I'm not ashamed of my God, nor would I EVER denounce my faith. Never. I'm ashamed that the meaning of the word Christian has been diluted to a liberal, moral-less person who acts the same as the world. THAT is why I'm ashamed to call myself a Christian. Secondly, what do you mean? I go around sparking debates, sure. I'm probably extraordinarily annoying, yeah. And yeah, I can be a jerk. So? I still hold respect for the other part and don't start nothing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

being christian is (should be) more than just believing in god to save your ass from hell. so far, thats all youre doing, as well as creating an image of self righteousness and smugness. i beg to differ. much of christianity has become liberal in many ways, but you must keep in mind that the worse us liberal christians ever do is lack in moral and maybe make a few only-human mistakes, many of such mistakes not being unfamiliar to conservative christians. those same conservative christians tend to do things like start wars, spread hatred and prejudice, and pick and choose sections of the bible to justify their actions, while ignoring other sections. your third statement contradicts itself. you practically said "yeah i start debates. but im respectful, and dont start debates."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

First, I'm not an idiot. I'm probably more familiar with the Bible than you. That's not what I've done, and any idiot can see that. Can you see that, or are you an idiot? Or are you a liar? I've never insinuated, hinted, said, or implied that I was better than anyone. Show me where I did that. What you did was assume you know why I'm a Christian. The very fact that you would do that is so appalling. You're telling me why I'm a Christian? Are you incapable of rational thought? You must keep in mind is God's power. He gave us the Bible to follow, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't appreciate people like you going around telling people to disregard it. However, He WILL deal with y'all specifically. One verse says that... I don't recall which one. Don't flatter yourself. All you do is make mistakes? What about spreading lies about God's word. Are you aware that the Bible is explicitly clear on many areas? Creation- it's blazingly obvious that it was 6 literal...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Literal days. Sin- we are to avoid it. Why do you condone sins? Abortion, (obvious murder of God's creation) homosexuality, (1 Corinthians 6:9, anyone?) and lust? (Our own president slept around! Also, this ties in with abortion.) You're a bit more than moralless. It's blatant disregard for God's Word, and I won't tolerate it. I mean I don't start the flame-wars. I don't ever escalate it from the post to someone's wall.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You do realise, I'm getting the notifactions because of this argument! DO NOT SUBJECT ME TO ANY MORE, I BEG YOU!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i find it ironic that you criticize my assumptions (even though you show many signs of it being correct), then go on to assume that i oppose the theory of creation, support sin, abortion, homosexuality, and lust. the following are my PERSONAL opinions on such matters: creationism- sure god created stuff, but ive read plenty of genisis and i find no clear statement that it was made in six human-perceived days. also, research has proven evolution correct, but lacks in the explanation of where life originally came from, which i believe is where god comes in. sin- people do what people do. i try to lead people down the right people, so its not like i sit back and let it happen, but i hope that god will reach others that i cannot in some other way. homosexuality- interestingly enough, homosexuality as it is today did not exist in biblical days, so the bible contains no content for or against the matter. whenever it is mentioned in the bible, the real subject was..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

rape, which is clearly wrong. religion shouldnt be used to justify prejudice towards homosexuals (or anyone for that matter). sorry, i skipped abortion- generally its not acceptable, but the only somewhat excusable case i can think of is that the parents cant afford to successfully raise a child, in which case they could put it up for adoption, but many orphanages cant support the child very well either. the ultimate problem is that the current world seems to be so obsessed with these barely- alive fetuses, but as soon as theyre born and a legal matter, nobody seems to care about them anymore, and they could die and no one would think twice. until thats fixed, and a born child is promised a minimum of a financially mediocre life, that one case is acceptable. and if that is the case, i believe that it is all entirely up to the parents. as you have noticed, i am not moral-less in any of these subjects. i do not disrespect his word, i just interpret it logically.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Have you read Genesis 1? It can't be any clearer. It literally says the sun went down, then rose, then it was the next day. Are you saying that shouldn't be in there? http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c002.html Only an imbecile can misinterpret the beginning of Genesis. Evolution isn't proven. Tell me how it's proven. Go for it. You said it was. It isn't. That's a blatant lie. You obviously haven't gotten the true meaning of the Bible. We are called to witness to others. You don't know what you're talking about. Are you aware of the presence of homosexuality in ancient Greece? You are oblivious to truth. That isn't true at all.... Did you just make that up? I just can't believe you'd tolerate murder of God's creation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i have read genesis. i read your link. i will give you one as well. http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/gen1st.htm be sure to read at least all of section 1. ill let it speak for itself. Fun fact: a chickens early ancestor was the t rex. google it. sooooo that means that the t rex devolved into a chicken, then died out. also, the growth of intelligence in the human race alone is proof enough. ill be honest, im a bit confused on what you meant by your 5th entry. there was homosexuality all over the place. im saying theres a difference between rape and two people of the same gender willingly committing to a relationship. if a man rapes another man, thats a sin. if a man loves another man, and the feelings are returned, it is not covered in the bible, so whether or not it is a sin, there is not proof. i dont tolerate the killing of gods creation. im vegetarian. however, im just as perhaps even more opposed to the suffering of gods...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

creation. what i am saying is that given certain circumstances, death is the lesser of two evils.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Buddy, we can argue the validity of the Bible. Okay? But God says six days. You can't believe the validity of the Bible and then disregard creation. Okay? You can't say you believe in the Biblical God, and say evolution is true. You can't. Fun fact, that is a lie. Is there any evidence for this, or is that a hypothesis by scientists? Evolution is a lie. It didn't happen. We can focus on this, if you want. No, the Bible is clear. Like everyone, you keep changing your argument. First you said it didn't occur. Now you're saying it DID occur, but not really. Pick one. Don't keep changing your argument. Also, no, it's a sin. 1 Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders..." It's clear. Okay, in Genesis, it's clear that we are allowed to eat meat. Genesis 1:26 .... Cont:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." We are allowed to eat meat. Also, MAN is made in God's image. The murder of a human is infinitely worse than the murder of hundreds of animals.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or, we could all accept that everyone has their own personal beliefs, or argue via profile posts. That would be nice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

but the point is god didnt say six days. that priest did. although i believe god did create a bunch of stuff, he did it over a long period of time, and in a way, still is creating. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4734675&page=1 as i have tried to make clear, whenever homosexuality was mentioned in those times, it was referring to rape. "let them rule over.. all the creatures that move along the ground" yeah, nothing in there about eating animals. that was up to your own interpretation. it could mean we can do anything we want to them, such as eat, torture, or perform bestiality. it could also mean that it is up to us to care for animals and make sure that they are only killed when necessary. you tell me which one sounds morally correct. i feel you dont understand what i was trying to say. im generally against unrighteous death. but im even more against unrighteous suffering, which commonly leads to death anyway. such suffering is apparent in...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

both the lives of those forced to starve to death because they were brought into a world where they cannot afford food because of what they were born into, and the animals that are only born so that they can be given growth hormones, forced to live under horrific conditions, practically tortured, excessively abused, then slaughtered (if they haven't died in the process) in ways that could easily be more humane. i was using vegetarianism to symbolize that belief, and to prove that i am committed to it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If i get one more notification from this STUPID agrument, i'll make it my personal mission to give you both 590865 spam notifications too. Argue via each others profile, and stop ignoring me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I voted YYA until I realized... Twilight. I've heard enough about it to know I'm not interested.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Twilight. Ugh. I've read it and I can't fucking stand it, but it still annoys me when people claim they hate it and they know nothing more than the fact that it's about 'vampires'.

by Anonymous 13 years ago