Honestly, I'm not fond of present-day America: its spoiled and greedy inhabitants, excessive debt, idiotic politicians, moronic drama, and all that jazz. But I adore its history. The ideas the country was founded upon. Those cheesy patriotic songs. Though they seem to have no relevance to present-day America, they are still inspiring.
Well it's not exactly JUST the wording... it's the idea you're trying to convey through those words. Because using big words don't necessitate sounding pretentious, but if you read my response to the Anon under me you would understand where I'm coming from. I do see where you're coming from and to some extent I do agree with you.
This country was built on violence and racism...and we're still going to war with everyone too. No one wants to be our friends because we are mean bullies.
You're right and also people romanticize about the past too much. AND this person hasn't even lived during the times the s/he is talking about.
"What you need to know about the past is that no matter what has happened, it has all worked together to bring you to this very moment. And this is the moment you can choose to make everything new. Right now."
It's because of America's past that it turned out like this. The present didn't come out of no where, it's a summation of the past
@732772 (KickAss): Really, I haven't lived in colonial America, really? I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :)
On a serious note, I said the ideas the country was founded upon, not the actual series of events. The Declaration of Independence is a beautiful piece of writing, in my eyes, from whatever time period or country it might have originated. Though the document was simply the unrealistic hopes for the young country, I still admire the concepts of freedom and liberty that are expressed in the writing.
So you like the ideas and do acknowledge the fact that the original writers were a little unrealistic? Then if that is the case, I guess that makes sense. It's just that you compare present day America, to the ideals of the past and it really doesn't make sense, because a good idea, doesn't necessitate a good reality? Do you know what I mean?
Also you're welcome, I thought maybe you're sooo old that you had Alzheimer's and that you thought you were born in the 1700's.
Reading my comment, I realize my sarcasm may come across as snooty, and if so, I apologize. Words on the internet are too often interpreted different ways than intended. That's why I added the smiley face, but now it simply appears more juvenile than before...
Mi malo.
Yeah, most of that stuff isn't true. If I wore half of the clothes those teens wear to school, I'd probably be suspended. We don't even get most of the events that they do, like dances and stuff.
It really depends on the school, time of year, and group of people. Two years ago the day before Christmas break there were like ten fights. Last year, there were three really intense fights that people talked about all year. Nothing major has happened this year. Yet.
I'm American, and my college life is insane. I actually met a group of people from England this past weekend who came to America with soccer scholarships, and they absolutely love it here. Not to say living anywhere else isn't amazing as well, I've been to quite a few different countries. I just feel you can't judge a place you've never been to, and if you have been to America OP then I suppose you can.
(#732734): Uh no, this country was not built on violence and racism. And I'm almost certain if you are indeed American, as you have been insinuating, then you would have obviously learned this in history class. I'm so tired of people consistently bashing America. It's just as ignorant to dislike an entire country as it is to dislike an entire group of people based on what a few do. Grow up.
Well for starters the post is addressed to non-americans - so clearly americans shouldn't vote on this.And basically like a survey asking if people that aren't americans would like to live there.An american voting on a post addressed to non-americans asking if they would leave their country to live in america defeats the purpose of this post.
That didn't defeat the purpose of the post. It isn't a survey, it's just someone saying that they don't wanna live in America. Why are taking this so seriously?
(S)he isn't saying that she wouldn't want to live there she is just asking others if they would want that.I'm taking this so seriously because amirite is a site where people say their opinions and want to find out what other people think or would want and in this case the americans that are voting are doing a good job at doing the exact opposite.
The op is just stating their opinion, and people are saying whether or not they disagree with that opinion. It doesn't necessarily mean that Americans are banned from reading the post or coating on it. It didn't ruin it at all.
How is asking a question stating an opinion?And yes since OP clearly states in the post that this is only for non americans americans shouldn't vote on it.
Exactly, following the principals of don't knock it till you try it. I bet the OP just listens to what is in the news and isn't aware if what actually goes on
Ok that's cool, it's a shame their economy is in much worse shape than ours is in. You don't live in a place just for looks, you have to have other reasons.
She/he only mentioned one factor about looks. I wouldn't say the British economy was in 'much' worse shape. Other reasons people would give for preferring England - lower crime rates, lower obesity rates, more multi-culturalism (particularly in London)
I feel Americans get more choices. We vote on a lot more than other countries and we have some good education things (not as good as some, but better than a lot). I think we have a lot of decent stuff while other places have some really great stuff.
It is in worse condition, my uncle just moved here from England, he says everything is way more expensive. Gas is like $20. And crime rates aren't really high unless you live in a city, most towns have very low crime rates.
I'm dominican, and as much fun as being a high-class, party every single day guy is, I would much rather being part of the american-college life than here.
I'm a non-American and I'm living in the US now. Personally, I like it better here. A LOT better. The school system is better, it feels like the teachers actually care about you and the one thing I am so grateful about: Partial credit on a test. There's less bullying in my new school and everyone just seems more friendly (with the few exceptions of course!)
All countries have their good and bad points. What makes a 'better' country is totally subjective. Even within a country, the experience is totally different depending on the location, wealth and people that one happens to know. Theres no point arguing over it! We all part of a one huge nation - the world. And let's just get on with each other. There is a lot of unwarranted prejudice against the USA but some Americans also have a unwarranted arrogance, and sense of self-importance.
(Your+name+(optional)): nog 'n suid-afrikaner? Aweness! Anyhoo, i also live in South Africa and would much rather stay here. The american-accent would drive me crazy
I think a lot of people would vote yes naturally because it would be interesting to see. If you have a second life, wouldn't you want to live in a different country for cultural and stuff? Probably.
And it's not America, it's the idiots that take greed over selfishness, money over respect, etc. Yeah, we have issues, but so does a lot of countries. Having major faults and peaks of depression is normal and getting through it makes us stronger. Anyone stronger.
We vote for the Prime Minister who fulfils the same role in our country as your President does in your country. The Queen has no power, she is a symbolic figure - representing the long history of our nation. There is no need and it wouldn't make any sense for us to vote for the next King or Queen. It will be Charles, then William...
Honestly, I'm not fond of present-day America: its spoiled and greedy inhabitants, excessive debt, idiotic politicians, moronic drama, and all that jazz. But I adore its history. The ideas the country was founded upon. Those cheesy patriotic songs. Though they seem to have no relevance to present-day America, they are still inspiring.
You have no idea how pretentious you sound or read?
@732704 (KickAss): Pretentious? This is simply my view of the country I live in. Sorry if my word choice irks you.
Well it's not exactly JUST the wording... it's the idea you're trying to convey through those words. Because using big words don't necessitate sounding pretentious, but if you read my response to the Anon under me you would understand where I'm coming from. I do see where you're coming from and to some extent I do agree with you.
This country was built on violence and racism...and we're still going to war with everyone too. No one wants to be our friends because we are mean bullies.
You're right and also people romanticize about the past too much. AND this person hasn't even lived during the times the s/he is talking about.
"What you need to know about the past is that no matter what has happened, it has all worked together to bring you to this very moment. And this is the moment you can choose to make everything new. Right now."
It's because of America's past that it turned out like this. The present didn't come out of no where, it's a summation of the past
@732772 (KickAss): Really, I haven't lived in colonial America, really? I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :)
On a serious note, I said the ideas the country was founded upon, not the actual series of events. The Declaration of Independence is a beautiful piece of writing, in my eyes, from whatever time period or country it might have originated. Though the document was simply the unrealistic hopes for the young country, I still admire the concepts of freedom and liberty that are expressed in the writing.
So you like the ideas and do acknowledge the fact that the original writers were a little unrealistic? Then if that is the case, I guess that makes sense. It's just that you compare present day America, to the ideals of the past and it really doesn't make sense, because a good idea, doesn't necessitate a good reality? Do you know what I mean?
Also you're welcome, I thought maybe you're sooo old that you had Alzheimer's and that you thought you were born in the 1700's.
Reading my comment, I realize my sarcasm may come across as snooty, and if so, I apologize. Words on the internet are too often interpreted different ways than intended. That's why I added the smiley face, but now it simply appears more juvenile than before...
Mi malo.
I accept your apology and I'm sorry I'm not fluent in Chinese... YET! What does mi malo mean?
I'm american and i voted on this.I am such a badarse
I prefer Europe or UK.
Im American, and i dont even want to live here
Actually, I've always wanted to try an American highschool. Here in England everyone loves eachother and whatnot.
It's not all that great. My school has absolutely no bullying. The worst we get is a fight every few months.
Oh, that's no fun. I have been informed incorrectly by the TV.
Ya the TV tends to exaggerate a bit.
True that.
Yeah, most of that stuff isn't true. If I wore half of the clothes those teens wear to school, I'd probably be suspended. We don't even get most of the events that they do, like dances and stuff.
It really depends on the school, time of year, and group of people. Two years ago the day before Christmas break there were like ten fights. Last year, there were three really intense fights that people talked about all year. Nothing major has happened this year. Yet.
It depends on the school. My highschool is FULL of drama. (:
that may just be the funniest thing i have ever heard. you watch too much tv.
I think it would be awesome to live in the US for a while. The people are very interesting and it's really not as bad as the media makes it out to be.
I bet you're an American pretending not to be...
look at my profile. and why can't I be genuinely interested in living in the US? what's with all the prejudice?
Just kidding :p
Though I can't help but be prejudice towards you when you haven't read Harry Potter ;)
These posts against American make me feel terribadly.
I'm american too and I voted yes.
Too bad there's still a lot of racism and such outside of America (not to say that it doesn't exist here)
Happy to be an Australian.
Why else would people come here? That's why most of American immigrants are Latin, because of the turmoil and proximity.
I'm American, and my college life is insane. I actually met a group of people from England this past weekend who came to America with soccer scholarships, and they absolutely love it here. Not to say living anywhere else isn't amazing as well, I've been to quite a few different countries. I just feel you can't judge a place you've never been to, and if you have been to America OP then I suppose you can.
(#732734): Uh no, this country was not built on violence and racism. And I'm almost certain if you are indeed American, as you have been insinuating, then you would have obviously learned this in history class. I'm so tired of people consistently bashing America. It's just as ignorant to dislike an entire country as it is to dislike an entire group of people based on what a few do. Grow up.
It's not that bad here...
If you live in America why did you vote on this post?
Why are you so upset about Americans voting on this post?
It kinda defeats the purpose of this post
Not really. People are still allowed to defend their opinions. Explain to me how it defeats the purpose of the post.
Well for starters the post is addressed to non-americans - so clearly americans shouldn't vote on this.And basically like a survey asking if people that aren't americans would like to live there.An american voting on a post addressed to non-americans asking if they would leave their country to live in america defeats the purpose of this post.
That didn't defeat the purpose of the post. It isn't a survey, it's just someone saying that they don't wanna live in America. Why are taking this so seriously?
(S)he isn't saying that she wouldn't want to live there she is just asking others if they would want that.I'm taking this so seriously because amirite is a site where people say their opinions and want to find out what other people think or would want and in this case the americans that are voting are doing a good job at doing the exact opposite.
The op is just stating their opinion, and people are saying whether or not they disagree with that opinion. It doesn't necessarily mean that Americans are banned from reading the post or coating on it. It didn't ruin it at all.
How is asking a question stating an opinion?And yes since OP clearly states in the post that this is only for non americans americans shouldn't vote on it.
How are we still having this conversation? Shall we just agree to disagree?
I think we're both extremely bored or something but sure yea agree to disagree works.
Because I can.
Not great though!
Except a lot of people in England want to live here... that's just what I heard.
Exactly, following the principals of don't knock it till you try it. I bet the OP just listens to what is in the news and isn't aware if what actually goes on
Why would an English person want to move to America? England is a way better country: history, culture, architecture, accent. I'm from New Zealand btw
Ok that's cool, it's a shame their economy is in much worse shape than ours is in. You don't live in a place just for looks, you have to have other reasons.
She/he only mentioned one factor about looks. I wouldn't say the British economy was in 'much' worse shape. Other reasons people would give for preferring England - lower crime rates, lower obesity rates, more multi-culturalism (particularly in London)
I feel Americans get more choices. We vote on a lot more than other countries and we have some good education things (not as good as some, but better than a lot). I think we have a lot of decent stuff while other places have some really great stuff.
It is in worse condition, my uncle just moved here from England, he says everything is way more expensive. Gas is like $20. And crime rates aren't really high unless you live in a city, most towns have very low crime rates.
Anthony wants to move to the USA, and he's English. :P
I'm dominican, and as much fun as being a high-class, party every single day guy is, I would much rather being part of the american-college life than here.
I love america. I'm from the mid west, and there is noo drama, violence or any craziness. Its pretty laid back.
I'm a non-American and I'm living in the US now. Personally, I like it better here. A LOT better. The school system is better, it feels like the teachers actually care about you and the one thing I am so grateful about: Partial credit on a test. There's less bullying in my new school and everyone just seems more friendly (with the few exceptions of course!)
Oh and, Halloween :)
All countries have their good and bad points. What makes a 'better' country is totally subjective. Even within a country, the experience is totally different depending on the location, wealth and people that one happens to know. Theres no point arguing over it! We all part of a one huge nation - the world. And let's just get on with each other. There is a lot of unwarranted prejudice against the USA but some Americans also have a unwarranted arrogance, and sense of self-importance.
well you have to live in the right parts of america, where there are less white-trash dumb americans
South African who would much rather stay right where I am thank you very much.
Ja :)
(Your+name+(optional)): nog 'n suid-afrikaner? Aweness! Anyhoo, i also live in South Africa and would much rather stay here. The american-accent would drive me crazy
(ArnoldVan Der Walt): Which American accent? There are several.
(Your+name+(optional)): Aweness! eks ook van Suid Afrika!
I would also stay in South Africa, we have rugby, braai and beautiful girls! Hosh ja
lol, jack parow.
(Your+name+(optional)): DITTO
I'm guessing that the communist china my family left for America is considered under the "anywhere else would be better"
I'm American and I want to travel elsewhere, but there is no doubt That I would come back to raise my children. But I live in a rural area.
Everyone probably feels that the place they live sucks, and can't wait to get out of there. That's the way I feel.
Americans can be idiotic sometimes, but most of us hate the loony ones who think US is better than everyone
I think a lot of people would vote yes naturally because it would be interesting to see. If you have a second life, wouldn't you want to live in a different country for cultural and stuff? Probably.
And it's not America, it's the idiots that take greed over selfishness, money over respect, etc. Yeah, we have issues, but so does a lot of countries. Having major faults and peaks of depression is normal and getting through it makes us stronger. Anyone stronger.
Show some pride Americans!
Are you stupid?This post is directed to non-americans americans shouldn't vote...
But they can still comment. ;)
Heh heh your comment is funny because in America we vote for president but, in the UK you don't vote for king or queen ;D
We vote for the Prime Minister who fulfils the same role in our country as your President does in your country. The Queen has no power, she is a symbolic figure - representing the long history of our nation. There is no need and it wouldn't make any sense for us to vote for the next King or Queen. It will be Charles, then William...
You're not doing the 'Americans are stupid' stereotype any favours...
I'm not american I'm Catholic. Heh heh :D
Nah, I like this place :P Much better than the UK in my opinion