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It's lame how the government is fostering an environment for class warfare, where the wealthy/successful are vilified and punished when they already pay the highest taxes and take on much of the burden for the 47-50% of residents who don't pay taxes at all and yet have say in how tax money is spent, amirite?

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although i understand that everyone should pay equal taxes, i would think that in this time of financial hardship for the government, the wealthiest 2% of the country would be in much better position to handle a tax increase than the lower/middle class.

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I see you driving round town with the girl I love, and I'm like... Fox News!

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Let's say you're working on a class project with another person. You do all of the work and your group mate does none yet still gets half of the credit for the project. Wouldn't it be fair that they get no credit at all?

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@StickCaveman Let's say you're working on a class project with another person. You do all of the work and your group mate does...

The thing about this situation though is that they both work equally hard. A poor person works hard to earn less whereas a rich person works just as hard to earn more--it depends on their occupation and the opportunities they've had to move up in the ranks.

@StickCaveman Can you really measure who works the hardest?

Not really, but what you're saying is assuming the rich person does more work than the poor person even though you just said you can't measure who works the hardest. :/

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It's not punishing them. It's being fair.

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The rich pay MORE taxes ALWAYS. I'm saying that the income tax rates should be the same for every class. The rich will still be paying more.

StickCavemans avatar StickCaveman Yeah You Are 0Reply

Well then do you propose we reverse the roles? Put the middle and lower classes in a position to fund the entire country by paying more of their wages to the government? Take a history class. Such actions only lead to bloody revolts.

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@Well then do you propose we reverse the roles? Put the middle and lower classes in a position to fund the entire...

You're an idiot if you think that's what OP was saying. If anything, it should be an equal percentage. Just because people have lots of money it doesn't mean they didn't work for it.

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@StickCaveman You're an idiot if you think that's what OP was saying. If anything, it should be an equal percentage. Just because...

So what you're saying is a person who makes a $100,000 a year should pay the same as someone who makes $25,000 a year? Or should a person who makes $25,000 a year have to pay the same as someone who makes $100,000 a year?

Either way YOU're the idiot, teachers work a hundred times harder than Bustin Beavers, but they don't even make a 10th of what he makes. So you're saying people like Rebecca Black deserve what they have? You're saying people like Paris Hilton deserve what they have? People like George Bush? C'mon man, you can't seriously be that ignorant, c'mon... don't be stupid. Teachers, firemen, policemen don't work as hard as singers, actors, and children of rich people?

@KickAss So what you're saying is a person who makes a $100,000 a year should pay the same as someone who makes $25,000 a...

The same percentage is not the same amount. Let's say the income tax is the same for everyone and it is 10%. The people who make $100,000 pay $10,000 in taxes and the people who make $25,000 pay $2,500. As you can see, the higher income pays the most in taxes.

Rebecca Black and Paris Hilton are just an example of some people who have gotten lucky in life. Because they're so popular everybody recognizes them and makes the assumption that people who have as much money as them just got lucky and don't deserve the money they have.

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@StickCaveman The same percentage is not the same amount. Let's say the income tax is the same for everyone and it is 10%. The...

Ha, I knew that. I was just dicking around as to make your point seem less valid....

Yeah, but the thing about that is... there are a lot of people who "just got lucky and don't deserve the money they have." The cast of Jersey Shore, Teen moms probably get paid to be on that show, and a bunch of other reality tv shows....

@KickAss Ha, I knew that. I was just dicking around as to make your point seem less valid.... Yeah, but the thing about...

I doubt teen moms are getting paid enough to be considered a part of the upper class. Just saying.

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@StickCaveman I doubt teen moms are getting paid enough to be considered a part of the upper class. Just saying.

You got a point there, but they're still getting paid for getting laid... that's prostitution right there!

@KickAss You got a point there, but they're still getting paid for getting laid... that's prostitution right there!

I've actually never seen the show but from the sound of it they should stop airing it and the other teenage mom shows.

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I would say it is fair, and you are wrong. First, all people in the US, not just the rich, have to pay federal income taxes. Second, unless you are comparing the very top of a tax bracket to the very bottom of the next higher one, people will still always have more money after taxes than anyone with a lower income, so they have no right to complain. If they can't manage with the money they have after taxes, then it's their own fault for not living within their means. Third, the rich do have a say in where tax money goes. Everyone obviously has voting rights, and because many of the people in the state or nation's Congress are rich, they would have similar personal interests along with their political interests. Lastly, the government has to be payed for somehow. Higher taxes don't hurt the rich any more than they affect everyone else, so they have the means to pay extra.

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@I would say it is fair, and you are wrong. First, all people in the US, not just the rich, have to pay federal...

"If they can't manage with the money they have after taxes, then it's their own fault for not living within their means." This statement applies especially to people of lower incomes. If people make lots of money and want to spend it because they think they'll be happier with expensive things, WHY SHOULDN'T THEY??

Also as a side note, if rich people suddenly stopped splurging their money on fancy things, then these fancy things will no longer need to be produced, therefore laying off thousands of laborers who are part of the middle and lower classes.

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INB4 Flame war

What language are you guys speaking?

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May I just say TRUE Democracy would be the poorer in charge. They have always been the larger group. Yet we still live in a way where the rich hold the most power. Someone of a lower wage will always notice a tax increase where as a higher wage can afford the needed things and still have money for other things without having to cut bits from their spending so much. Although a rich person can work hard to earn their money, can you really say it is identical to someone who does back breaking work for hardly any money? Even if it starts out that way, after a while money makes money and eases the work.

Rich people bear less of the tax burden. It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

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