You wouldn't say that about a kid with abusive parents, so why about kids abusing kids? Because that's what it is; it's abuse and it needs to stop.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Abusive parents is one thing but because kids are being abused by there parents its ok to let them take it out on my kid? so that way my kid has to deal with that abuse that's not happening. However I don't stand for parents abusing their kids maybe someone should give them a beating.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What? That doesn't make sense...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What im saying is, Is it ok for me to let the child of an abusive parent abuse/bully my child because HIS parents abuse him? If the problem stems from an abusive parent then what would be the way to solve the issue. Bringing awareness only does so much would you not agree that ordinance if more effective?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Why would you think that's what I'm saying? I'm saying that abuse in any form is wrong, whether it's coming from a parent or a peer. Awareness is part of solving the issue. We need people to be aware so that changes can be made.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

People already are aware and still I hear everyday on the news that kids are being bullied and committing suicide because they cant handle the bullying. I had a bully when I was in school and I told my mom about it she said "The next time it happens you hit him back but you had better win or else you will get a spanking when you get home" note: my parents were never abusive to me. So I beat up my bully, guess what? he did not bully anyone else. All im saying is ordinance works.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

And if you're a kid with a disability who can't fight back? That is not a solution. Abuse needs to stop, and you can't expect kids to take it on themselves.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You also cant expect parents to solve the issue that only adds fuel to the fire. Whether it is talking to the other kids parents about the issue or confronting the bully about the issue the bully will only find it more of a reason to bully your child. The best solution is for your child to DEFEND himself WITH your support and understanding.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Actually, the problem should be solved within the schools and by the law. There need to be repercussions for these bullies. No family should have to deal with a situation of abuse, especially ones who are ill equipped to deal with it properly. The schools and law need to crack down on the problem. And, as I said, what if the child is disabled and can't defend themselves?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This is not intended to be a sexist comment, just an observation. I'm willing to bet money that twisted is female and emqz is male. this is because male and female bullying are completely different both how they are done and the best way to make it stop. When guys bully eachother, its mostly (but definitely not all) physical, and the opposite with females. This leads to a misperception of the whole issue on both sides. Secondly, the idea that you can get rid of bullying is complete bullshit. Humans bully. Thats how we are. It's genetic, because you see it in every culture in the world. The realistic solution would be to raise our children to know how to DEAL with it. For example. I was bullied constantly from 7th through 9th grade. This made me very depressed,etc. but i never killed myself, because then the bullies would win. Then I realized that what they said didnt matter, and they were so unexpecting of physical retaliation that when they got mad that i was no longer reacting and attacked me, i kicked their ass. And alot of other people joined in once they realized the bullies werent invincible. Lets just say they didnt bully anyone afterward.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with the part about the bullying being different for girls than guys, but in my experience that's changing a lot. The majority of the female bullying I witnessed (and experienced) was physical. Regardless, I think that more needs to be done to prevent whatever type as best as possible. I don't believe that you can get rid of bullying entirely nor do I think that would be necessary. People need to learn to deal with bullies because they are everywhere in life. But, when that bullying becomes abuse and leads to suicides because a kid didn't have the resources or knowledge to stop it, then that's not ok. I'm glad you could find a way to hold on, but not everyone thinks like you and not everyone has the ability to fight back. I mentioned disabled kids who can't fight back. I've seen the bullying a disabled kid can face and it simply shouldn't happen. Something needs to be done. But what, I don't know. I stand by my opinion, however, that there needs to be something more done within the schools and by law enforcement and more resources need to be available. Sorry if I've missed anything or repeated myself, this thread is from a long while ago.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i agree with you about the physical bullying, but barely any of the "fad" suicides are allegedly from physical bullying. I agree that something should be done involving authorities when it comes to extreme physical bullying. i think involving authorities with psychological bullying wouldnt accomplish anything. teaching kids to deal with it would be a much better solution, as well as stop glorifying kids via mass media who commit suicide (fad suicide), because knowing it will make them semi-famous and that their message will be heard is doing exactly what we dont want: giving an incentive to commit suicide. Btw, sry hadnt noticed comment dates lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think that when it comes to the psychological bullying, it's nearly impossible to keep track of. Having someone to really talk to and having repercussions within the school for this type of bully should be enough. My point with the authorities is more that they should make resources available outside of the classroom (the same as you'd want someone being emotionally abused at home to have counselling, you'd want someone being emotionally abused outside of the home to have counselling) and be available for situations that do need legal interference. Though, I guess the available resources thing would be more of a provincial/state issue. It's true that kids need to learn to deal with it (bullying exists, like I said, everywhere) and more resources could help kids. The problems arise when a kid doesn't know what to do so they do something stupid. Also, I agree with the glorifying bit. It's important to get the message out, but it's hard to do so without making those kids look like heroes (when in reality, they were just troubled kids who didn't know how to handle a bad situation). And hey, I do that all the time when I come across an old set of comments. So it's cool.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And even though most schools have rules against bullying, I've never seen once that those rules have been enforced

by Anonymous 13 years ago

At my school, and every school I've ever been to, everyone, including bullies are more than nice to the... Special kids

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's fortunate and not true for every school. I've seen a kid with MS get the shit kicked out of him simply because they wanted to ride his trike and he didn't want to let them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That depends on the disability I have met blind, deaf,mute, invalid and many other kids with disabilities that have defended themselves and others from bullies. Now there are specific classes for a child who has a condition like cerebral palsy, MS, Autism or others that make it impossible for them to understand their situation in which they are not bullied because they are not surrounded by people who have a cruel enough demeanor to mess with handicapped kids. As far as involving the law 1. What would you do with bullying if the government were involved? 2. It is not the governments responsibility to monitor bullying. 3. There will have to be funding to pay for the monitoring of bullying and where do you suggest that money come from? In any case the best solution is for your child to DEFEND themselves

by Anonymous 14 years ago

And that's why I practice Muay Thai, just in case. /coolstory Inb4 watch out guys we got a badass over here

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Flame war up in here!

by Anonymous 13 years ago