Though, in Christain faith, being homosexual is a sin

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So is eating shellfish.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

that is an old testement law, most of those laws were actually for the safety and health of the people, such as no red meat because they couldn't keep it safely. Also saying that an open homosexual can go to church is the same as saying an adulturor or murderer or theif can go to church and be called a Christian. I think they can as long as they recognize that it is a sin and try to do something about it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do something about it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They mean therapy that will "pray" the gay out of you. Its not possible, of course, because homosexuality is chemical and is programed at birth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I believe that a homosexual is called to be celibate. I know you can't pray away the gay. But they can not sin by remaining celebate.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

how can you even suggest that a homosexual and a murderer are even comprable. Jesus would be absoloutely disgusted if he saw the predijuces and hatred that goes on in a church that worships him, and frankly, YOU are the one that will go to hell. I was taught that God is love, and that He loves all. God's love does not come with exceptions, and if you think it does, then you are a sick person who should not be calling yourself a Christian / Catholic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Murdering and being gay are both sins, so I can see where they wanted to compare them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry, I must have missed the lesson where LOVING someone and being in a nurturing, caring relationship, and murdering a person were equally terrible.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not saying its absolutely terrible, but in God's eyes, each sin is the same as the next one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So the time I cursed at my mother is the same as murdering someone is what you just told me, if each sin is equal in His eyes (because disrespecting a parent is a sin). WRONG. God is a reasonable person, and He forgives. I honestly do not think that God would be upset over a man loving a man the same way He would about a cold blooded murderer. God loves all of His children equally and unconditionally, which is something you apparently do not understand. People like you are the VERY reason I will not worship in a Catholic church.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When did I ever say He doesn't love everybody? I don't think I did. And yes, if you ask for his forgiveness he will forgive you. I never denied that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why would He make someone apologize for who they are if He truly loved them? And you can't ask for forgiveness for being gay, because being gay cannot be changed, and saying "sorry" implies that you will make a change. Being gay is chemical, and it is predetermined. You cannot "pray the gay away", because you cannot pray a chemical change within your body to happen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe you could realize that Christianity actually declares homosexuality as a sin, even though most people now a days, even christians think its a sin. Seriously look it up. http://carm.org/homosexuality

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*think it isn't a sin, my b.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Then I am PROUD to say that I am not a Catholic, and that I do not worship your God. I would much rather believe in love, and humanity then a God as full of hate as you say yours is. And remember, the Bible was written by man. NOT God.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God is not full of hate in any way, my friend. Every Christian in their right mind knows that God is full of love, and would never say that he is hateful.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

fir your information. I never said God doesn't love them. Also homosexuality and murder are both sins. And all sins are equal in God's eyes. Actually unless I'm mistaken sexual sins are worse. Could be wrong about that though. i

by Anonymous 13 years ago

how is being in love worse than murder ?! You deserve to go to hell.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

love is a beautiful wonderful thing. It is good to love. But homosecual relations are sexual sins which are against God the other person and yourself. The "yourself" part is what makes it worse.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So is wearing fabric of mixed composition. And peircing your ears. And playing with the skin of a pig. Adultury was punished by being stoned to death back then too.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hey, I didn't say they deserved to be punished... I just said it is stated in the bible. Yes, some of those rules in the bible were abolished or in the case of adultery were loosened up on in the view of society. I have an open mind but I was raised in a devoted Christain family (we also believe to wait till marriage for sex). If I could change it I would but it is the way I was brought to believe that being homosexual is a sin, even if it's uncontrollable. It might be unfair but it's my faith.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just don't understand why some rules would be loosened, but not the homosexuality one. If anything, we should be harder on adultery than on homosexuality (just my opinion on that one there). And while I understand it is how you were raised, I too was raised in a very Catholic household, but, like K, was taught that He loves all regardless of their sexuality. So I cant fathom why He would love someone less just because they are in love with someone of their own gender. If anything, I think he would be proud to know that there is more love in a world that is often times cruel. And, it is also never too late to redevelop a stance on a matter, especially a stance that you yourself just said might be unfair. It is your own self that define your ideologies, not your upbringing. Again, just my own opinion there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know what, you are absolutely correct. I always found it a little hypocritical that Jesus says he loves every shape form and gender but states that it's a sin in the bible. It is cruel as it is something you can't help, though I must stand be my faith and that means I must stand by this rule. Though in my honest opinion I find nothing wrong with homesexuality and I would love to abolish this holy commandment and let us live in a world with no descrimination. As you said, it is never too late to redevelop a stance.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know, and I think this is actually an interesting point, Jesus didn't write the Bible- regular people did. Correct me if I'm wrong please- but I didn't believe homosexuality was addressed in a commandment? I thought it was more of a "standing rule", so to speak. I'm quite glad that we were able to have this debate though, and that you were so open minded.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never thought of it that way. Jesus' deciples wrote the bible and along the way it has be translated and altered so much that maybe we are missing God's actual point. And yes, now that I think about it homosexuality is not addressed in the commandments. I think it was in a passage stating a man should love a woman and vice versa and it is sinful for a man to love a man or for a woman to love a woman. I'm also quite glad to have a debate with someone from a Christain background but is as open minded as me. It gets quite tiresome talking to someone with an extremely closed mind on any other religion or point of view than their own

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I could be wrong, but I believe that what it says, is something along the lines of "a man should not lay in bed with another man as he does a woman." Which i so vague to being with, its hard to really know. But I suppose the only way we will ever truly know what the real deal is, is once we have passed on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You may be right, and that is pretty vague. I mean it could mean anything from put "put your wife first before your friends" or "men should not have a closer friendship that courtship." Yes we will never know untill we pass on or untill the rapture.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Last I checked, the New Testament is the most important part of the Bible and sort of canceled out the Old Testament. The copy I read (in Corinthians 6:9) says sodomites, not homosexuals, won't get into heaven, so as long as oral is all the men do, they should be fine.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christianity doesnt even make sense

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christianity doesnt even make sense

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I go to a Catholic school, and I know gay people. I'm pretty good friends with one, and he goes to church and calls himself Christian. According to the Catholic Church (I don't necessarily agree with it..), homosexuality isn't a sin unless you're acting upon it (having a boyfriend/girlfriend, kissing, etc).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and that is the single most infuriating position ever. It's the same chemical in your brain, the same feeling, the same emotion as any other relationship. But apparently those that worship a being of absolute fairness and love believe it is far more sporting for one minority to have to suffer in celibacy. I treat the argument that "God loves the person, he just hates the sin" with similar disdain. If your God really does hate homosexuality so much, you can tell him when you get to heaven that my morals are better than his.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hey now, calm down. I don't believe that homosexuality is a sin. I agree that it shouldn't be hated. I am confused about religion in this manner a lot, but I have faith that God knows what he's doing. But please don't think I'm trying to push you into Christianity. I have my beliefs, you have yours; I respectthat.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

for just fucking once, for once....I'd like to read a post on here about being gay or religion without any comments on it. Yet that's like asking to divide a number by 0...IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What's wrong with comments? Or I guess you mean argumentative comments?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

two things: why do you say Christian-slash-Catholic. Do we not fall into that grouping of Christian? We Catholics are just as Christian as Baptist, Lutheran, etc. We do things a little different, but at the end of the day, we're still Christians. 2) If God loves all of his children then it shouldn't matter if they are gay. They can't control it so God should forgive them for it. If He truly loves them then it doesn't matter, now does it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

For the record, the term "Catholic" technically means all people of faith, not the followers of Roman Catholocism.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I personally believe that homosexuals do not have a choice, as in they can't force themselves into being something they're not. If they did, they would be unhappy and God wants us to be happy. With this in mind, I do not see homosexuality as something that would keep someone from being Christian. As Lady Gaga said, "It is always wrong to hate but its never wrong to love."

by Anonymous 13 years ago