White people evolved lighter skin when the moved to Europe from Africa, meaning that white people are more evolved than black people, which means, it's not racist to say that we're smarter. amirite?
Actually darker skin remained a favorable trait in Africa while lighter skin was favorable in the north, so we didn't evolve into superior beings or anything, people in different regions just needed different characteristics.
the hell are you talking about? adaptation is small scale evolution, making it easier to survive in different circumstances. melanin production lessened, because not as much was needed, making white skin more efficient in the north. however, dark skin was still more efficient near the equator as uv protection. if evolution favored white people, light pigmentation would have or would be replacing dark pigmentation altogether
being smarter and being more evolved are completely different. Furthermore, how are Africans not equally as evolved as white people? Their skin grew darker and more resistant to UVA/UVB burns. Our skin grew lighter because we no longer required as much protection.
You are a fucking moron. Go back to school and take some biology lessons.
Darker skin reduces the penetration of uv light. This is therefore favoured in places which are exposed to greater amounts of uv light, such as africa, as vitamin d is easily synthesised (also reduces likelihood of cancer). As Europe has less amounts of uv light, lighter skin is favoured in order to optimise vitamin d synthesis. Homo sapiens have only been around in the last 150,000 years give or take a couple, and so it is impossible for any great evolutionary change to occur in this time. Unless a sudden unfavourable environmental change occured, which has not happened since the ice age. There is no such thing as being 'more evolved' in this case. And also google more about natural selection so you can actually understand just how ignorant and wrong you are.
Yeah I just wasted about 7 minutes texting this up on my phone but I have holidays and I've just graduated high school (top of my class in Biology, no...
If you want to support the "black" side of the argument, presidents are not the way to go. You do realize that although we have a black president now, we had 43 white presidents before that?
Black people and white people (and any ethnicity) have the exact same genetic make up. We are the same. The only difference is a skin pigment, melanin, which protects from UV rays. People that originate from countries with more intense sunlight have more melanin to protect them, people originating from countries where sunlight is less extreme do not need as much.
everyone's genes are different. You might be able to roll your tongue, while someone else cannot. Someone might have two different colored eyes, or uneven ears, or a bigger nose. Those are all genetic traits. So no, we are not all exactly the same.
Scrantoncity read noons comment and take a deep breath. It's funny because we were just discussing this in anthro today. And my teacher, and avid believer in evolution, made it abundantly clear that evolutionists DO NOT believe white people are smarter than black people. You can barely differentiate between black and white people because no one is "truly" black or white. We are all different variations of the two. And skin colour is based on how much melanin you have, and has no correlation to your intelligence. Hasn't anyone taken bio 101?
This was all incredibly entertaining, but let's get down to the matter at hand: skin color has no link to brain power whatsoever. Damn. And its pretty safe to say that one cannot exist without the other. Black people invented stoplights and blood tranfusions. Imagine your life without these things. All races are equal, no matter which way you slice it. And maybe the people in Africa didnt WANT to move. It's not that they weren't capable. Maybe they didn't WANT to. And some did. It's people like you racist bigots, always trying to find some way to prove your twisted logic.
So basically...rase does not matter in smartness. We can all be as smart as each other and everything...no specific race is dumber than the next. And none is superior. Sorry to anyone who believes the dude who posted this.../:
the only reason the people in europe have lighter skin was because if they kept the darker skin, they wouldn't be able to absorb enough vitamin D from sunlight. It adapting to your environment, not becoming a more advanced species. the only thing that changed was skin color.
Hahahahaha scrantoncity you're crazy. If you're going to dispute evolution then at least know what the hell it is. We didn't evolve from "monkeys" wtf. Please educate yourself on the subject. We have a common ancestor. Go read about Ardipithecus
The whole skull shape point is complete and utter bs. Some trait combinations are just more common than others. Ex. Blond Hair, Blue Eyes. Black people tend to have similar skull shapes, but that's not always the case. I learned this in 9th grade Bio guys...Get a clue.
if your skin colour has adapted to your enviroment, which is basically what happend then that doesn't make YOU cleverer. Your brain hasn't evolved in any way. You're an example of that.
You know, evolution does not mean you become smarter. In Kurt Vonnegut's novel Galapagos, the only humans left on the Earth live on the islands which are the namesake for the novel. Forced to look to the water to food, they develop an efficient method of fishing involving swimming underwater to catch fish. Over a period of 1,000,000 years, natural selection favors those who can more easily glide through the water, thus they develop a streamline body-type and smaller brains.
Actually, OP is correct on the evolution mark. As much as they avoid the topic, any true evolutionist believes black people are less evolved. Because yes, more evolved "species" are thought to have migrated away from Africa. Also, have you seen Homo Erectus? It honestly looks like some black guy I know: http://www.google.com/search?si...%20erectus#i=7
No, OP, that wouldn't be racist at all. Unfortunately for those unintelligent enough to believe evolution, it never happened. Evolution didn't happen.
Your skin isn't linked to your brain. The skin changing was an advantage because of sunlight, it had nothing to do with intelligence. Studies show that there is no connection between race and intelligence.
Uh, did I say the skin color made a difference? No. According to the evolution THEORY, black people are less evolved. The more evolved specimens were capable of leaving Africa, and because of the change in geography, climate etc, supposedly they evolved more.
Oh my goodness, it's you again!!! Why?!?
Surprisingly, I don't feel like debating right now, so just going to say a couple things and leave.
-Since when is everything on the internet concrete fact? The links you're giving us look a bit shady. A article written by a guy based on his opinion cannot back up your own opinion.
-See that word in my last point? OPINION. People who are smart and want people to respect them do not speak like every sentence they utter is the law of the universe. Just because you say "Evaluation didn't happen." so matter-of-fact, doesn't actually make it a fact.
-"Science" doesn't say anything, because science isn't one big united thing that everyone agrees on. "Scientist CLAIMS." "THEORY of so-and-so." "DISPUTE over blah blah blah." Scientists disagree! They have different opinions! Different theories! Different research! (Shocking, huh) And there's many, many scientists.
I don't know what the theory of "evaluation" is, but it sums up the general intelligence of your comment.
First, nobody has provided real facts. Alright? Don't ask it from me and not expect it from them. We simply don't know because so much of science today is fraudulent.
Second, you seem to be under the impression that whatever anyone else links is correct, because it supports your views, and whatever I link is somehow unfactual. Okay, find it. You can't just say "maybe it could be slightly unfactual, so it's invalid". You have to find anything if you Want an iota of respect.
Second, you seem to be focusing on one tiny aspect of my argument. That isn't even my point, it's just funny to know that your beloved science is racist.
Third, the "evaluation" theory says that the more evolved moved away, and the less evolved (blacks) remained in Africa.
Wow, because you've spelled every single word in your life right? Excuse me for making a mistake. Maybe you should consider founding the Spelling Nazis? And while we're on mistakes, I should point out that you numbered your points 'First', 'Second', 'Second', 'Third'.
Exactly. Nobody has provided real facts of science, but they've come up with a ton more evidence than the theory that a greater being just created everything out of nothing. So much of religion is fraudulent too.
Did I say that? Did I say that their links are right? No, I just said that yours might not be the most trustworthy. But if you must have me say it, probably their links aren't that trustworthy either.
Did you not get my last point at all? I was saying that you cannot say science in itself is racist, because there are many different aspects of it. One scientist does not reflect all science, got it? So one scientist being racist does not mean all of science is being racist.
that is all speculation, there is not a single FACT in that paper that proves that blacks are less intelligent. He said "People that work with black employees found this [equal intelligence across the races] untrue." There was not a even an allusion to a test that proves this, and for all we know every person they asked was a racist.
you should probably stop saying 'less evolved', since skin change is defined as adaptation. this doesn't make black people less adapted either, as more melanin is an adaptation originally developed to come with the uv rays of africa
well theory exists that the original homo sapien killed his brother homo erectus as part of the fight for survival. that means that ancestors of modern day africans existed at the same time as homo erectus.
that still doesnt make make them less evolved though. skull shape can change via natural and artificial selection. like that remote aboriginal tribe with two toed members, called the ostrich tribe in their native tongue. maybe african, i dont remember. it could also be that there was no reason for african skull shape to change because it was fully functional. Or the combination of both, evolutionary selection causing change in skull shape and adaptation causing change in skin tone.
also, how do you explain the mongoloid skull shape?
The OP isn't correct on the evolution mark, they're just a troll. And it's perfectly fine if you don't believe the theory of evolution, but you shouldn't spread lies about it just to try and give it a bad name.
According to evolution, all life stems from a single source. Because it has had exactly the same amount of time to evolve, every species alive today is exactly as evolved as another. Black people are exactly as evolved as white people, who are exactly as evolved as snails, which are exactly as evolved as broccoli.
Of course, species such as the Tyrannosaurus Rex are less evolved than broccoli, since they are extinct and therefore have not been evolving these past 65 million years, but they were (by most definitions, ie those that define "smart" as "having a brain") smarter than broccoli. "Less evolved" and "more evolved" do not affect intelligence in any way.
You are confusing evolutionary theory with social darwinism. In the past, some people used Darwin's theories of natural selection to support their preexisting racist views. They would show differences in physical structure between the different races in an attempt to prove the superiority of one race. Recent scientific findings in genetics have shown that there is no correlation between race and how evolved someone is. Besides, the logic of social darwinists was greatly flawed due to their racial prejudices and it clouded their judgment and research.
If you went back to that link you posted, you'll notice that it states the opinions of many people, however none of these opinions or quotes give any examples of scientific research to support them.
Okay, then even if that were true, then Darwin himself was racist. I'm pretty sure that Jesus wasn't racist. Oh well. We all know the superior theory anyway.
no, darwin wasn't racist. he happened to be a religious man with an even more religious wife.
social darwinism was a movement where people tried to use the struggle to survive in nature to justify keeping people down in society. doesn't hold water, but it did give nazi germany some ideas, and it's a real shame that it's a part of our history.
"[the idea that whites are better] was commonly reflected in science books published from 1880 and 1980." It's been 30 YEARS! "Today, all human beings in the world today, are classified as Homo Sapiens and scientists now admit that, biologically, there really is only one race of humans." "Recent IQ tests of people throughout the world have found that, with allowance for cultural differences, the IQ ranges of all extant identified races is extremely close. The pygmy population of Africa, supposedly the most backward race extant today, test close to average when acclimated to Western life. Few differences are found between the second and third generation pygmies living in large Australian cities who are acclimated to the established European population."
melatonin is a chemical released by the brain to shut down your body for sleep so your can "recharge" and heal up at night. also known as the "horomone of darkness"
no, OP is not correct. OP is [hopefully] trolling. I had thought from our previous debates you actually had some grasp of how evolution supposedly works. sorry i made that mistake...
God never happened.The reason fair skinned people are called "Caucasian" is because our ancestors came from the "Caucasian mountains"
That's why African people and Caucasian people have slightly different skull shapes.
and bone structure cant change over time? just because a person is known by a place, doesn't mean they originated there. following your logic, we get 'americans are called americans because, guess what they originated in america'. the names we make for types of people are just that, manmade concepts. if not evolution, how could the biology of different types of people be so similar?
American isn't a race though, European isn't a race, African can be a race and a nationality though. I am talking about where a keyword race originated from. Also the bone structure could be different depending on where they evolved from. All humans evolved from one thing but under different geographical conditions specific groups evolved differently. I'm not trying to prove evolution because I know it's only a theory.
I didn't make it up, why do you think white people are call "Caucasian" because we originated from there, black people are called African because, guess what they originated from Africa. Just because some one denies your statement doesn't mean they made it up.
Melanin is a pigment that is every persons skin that protects us from UV rays. Some people have more melanin than others. Black people have an abundance of melanin because they Originate from Countries (not just Africa) where the sun is more intense and they need more protection. White people originate from countries where there is less intense sunlight and less protection is needed.
Exactly that's the point I'm making, the Caucasian mountains are between Europe and Asia so naturally any race from there would not need that much Melanin. African people are from the areas that have more sun exposure which Africa has a lot.
Okay, what? The evolution theory doesn't say that at all. You really believe that two monkeys parallelly evolved simultaneously, one into whites, and one into blacks? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Evolution says that men came from monkeys in Africa. And once they were more evolved, they were capable of migrating to other places. So, the one's left behind (blacks) are less evolved.
And nobody has said anything valid to the contrary. Ah, it's a good day when people's beloved science blow up in their faces.
All humans came from monkeys in Africa.
And I'd be interested to see your views on Asians?
Also, Egyptians were African, and pretty advanced for any of the ancient civilisations...
Well, according to evolution, yeah. And the more evolved races were able to flee. This isn't my opinion; it's evolution. Which is racist.
And that means nothing. All that requires is the intellect of one man. MLK was pretty smart. So was the pharaoh.
Besides, one example means nothing. Out of 15 tries, a rat is statistically inevitable to choose the correct door out of two chooses. Does that mean rats are intelligent?
@833724 (scrantoncity):I think there was more than one clever person than the Pharoah.
There were no 'evolved races', there was one race, THE HUMAN RACE. And they didn't flee, they gradually migrated. And then Pangea broke up. They didn't say 'Ohh, it's nasty Africa, if we stay we'll turn stupid and less evolved' (And btw, black people AREN'T less evolved)
Because the logic is right, and according to evolution, that happened.
Yeah, well Homo Erectus (woops I meant erectus not habilis) are fake, BUT scientists constructed him on their whims, and he was only 40% complete. And he looks like a human.
people didn't evolve from monkeys, we just share a common ancestor which became either geographically or reproductively isolated, thus evolving into two different species
Obvisouly evolution happened we didnt just get up from the ground and say hey I'm human lets go run the fuck around and makeup languages dumb ass also yes bones can change over time
A black man invented peanut-butter. Discussion over.
You sir, won everything.
WIN
Peanut butter kills people all the time.
Only if they're allergic to it...
Peanuts are one of the main ingredients in TNT
I thought Washington invented peanut-butter...
that's george washington CARVER. who yes, just happens to be a black dude.
hate to bust your balls but..... the irony is that George Washington carver invented 300 uses for peanuts but not peanut butter.... (bloopbloop)
well I don't like peanut butter
Well, peanut butter doesn't like you either.
Yes, because clearly your skin is related to your brain.
Actually darker skin remained a favorable trait in Africa while lighter skin was favorable in the north, so we didn't evolve into superior beings or anything, people in different regions just needed different characteristics.
Don't feed the troll
This... it's so fucking simple yet there are so many racist idiots out there. Why don't they understand!?
Yes, and then people moved from Africa and EVOLVED lighter skin, meaning EVOLUTION favors white people, and we're smarter.
the hell are you talking about? adaptation is small scale evolution, making it easier to survive in different circumstances. melanin production lessened, because not as much was needed, making white skin more efficient in the north. however, dark skin was still more efficient near the equator as uv protection. if evolution favored white people, light pigmentation would have or would be replacing dark pigmentation altogether
being smarter and being more evolved are completely different. Furthermore, how are Africans not equally as evolved as white people? Their skin grew darker and more resistant to UVA/UVB burns. Our skin grew lighter because we no longer required as much protection.
You do realize that not everyone on amirite is white, making "we" wrong for a lot of people....
You are a fucking moron. Go back to school and take some biology lessons.
Darker skin reduces the penetration of uv light. This is therefore favoured in places which are exposed to greater amounts of uv light, such as africa, as vitamin d is easily synthesised (also reduces likelihood of cancer). As Europe has less amounts of uv light, lighter skin is favoured in order to optimise vitamin d synthesis. Homo sapiens have only been around in the last 150,000 years give or take a couple, and so it is impossible for any great evolutionary change to occur in this time. Unless a sudden unfavourable environmental change occured, which has not happened since the ice age. There is no such thing as being 'more evolved' in this case. And also google more about natural selection so you can actually understand just how ignorant and wrong you are.
Yeah I just wasted about 7 minutes texting this up on my phone but I have holidays and I've just graduated high school (top of my class in Biology, no...
Congratulations. You just fed the troll for 7 strait minutes. Now he's won
Can't we all put our views asside and agree the person who made this post is a racist moron.
Everybody knows white people are smarter than black people.
Why do you think black people die first in horror movies?
because the media is still somewhat racist.
Hahahah! i think i love you.
If you want to support the "black" side of the argument, presidents are not the way to go. You do realize that although we have a black president now, we had 43 white presidents before that?
Comments here are GOLD. you're just making the op love himself.
Black people and white people (and any ethnicity) have the exact same genetic make up. We are the same. The only difference is a skin pigment, melanin, which protects from UV rays. People that originate from countries with more intense sunlight have more melanin to protect them, people originating from countries where sunlight is less extreme do not need as much.
... you know genes determine skin color right? amount of melanin released?
everyone's genes are different. You might be able to roll your tongue, while someone else cannot. Someone might have two different colored eyes, or uneven ears, or a bigger nose. Those are all genetic traits. So no, we are not all exactly the same.
Scrantoncity read noons comment and take a deep breath. It's funny because we were just discussing this in anthro today. And my teacher, and avid believer in evolution, made it abundantly clear that evolutionists DO NOT believe white people are smarter than black people. You can barely differentiate between black and white people because no one is "truly" black or white. We are all different variations of the two. And skin colour is based on how much melanin you have, and has no correlation to your intelligence. Hasn't anyone taken bio 101?
This was all incredibly entertaining, but let's get down to the matter at hand: skin color has no link to brain power whatsoever. Damn. And its pretty safe to say that one cannot exist without the other. Black people invented stoplights and blood tranfusions. Imagine your life without these things. All races are equal, no matter which way you slice it. And maybe the people in Africa didnt WANT to move. It's not that they weren't capable. Maybe they didn't WANT to. And some did. It's people like you racist bigots, always trying to find some way to prove your twisted logic.
So basically...rase does not matter in smartness. We can all be as smart as each other and everything...no specific race is dumber than the next. And none is superior. Sorry to anyone who believes the dude who posted this.../:
the only reason the people in europe have lighter skin was because if they kept the darker skin, they wouldn't be able to absorb enough vitamin D from sunlight. It adapting to your environment, not becoming a more advanced species. the only thing that changed was skin color.
Hahahahaha scrantoncity you're crazy. If you're going to dispute evolution then at least know what the hell it is. We didn't evolve from "monkeys" wtf. Please educate yourself on the subject. We have a common ancestor. Go read about Ardipithecus
The whole skull shape point is complete and utter bs. Some trait combinations are just more common than others. Ex. Blond Hair, Blue Eyes. Black people tend to have similar skull shapes, but that's not always the case. I learned this in 9th grade Bio guys...Get a clue.
wtf....racist? i think so. what kind of human thinks of something this fucking bitchy....you sir, you. twat.
Ummm...What?
Just ignore it. This has been showing up all over, don't pay any attention to it.
Because proving your point to a stranger is way more important isn't it.
if your skin colour has adapted to your enviroment, which is basically what happend then that doesn't make YOU cleverer. Your brain hasn't evolved in any way. You're an example of that.
so much troll, so little time.
if u think black people are so dumb then why the HELL do you all try to act black!!!
Says the user who has no concept of grammer :P
Says the user that has no concept of proper spelling. . .
says both of you who are really annoying
You know, evolution does not mean you become smarter. In Kurt Vonnegut's novel Galapagos, the only humans left on the Earth live on the islands which are the namesake for the novel. Forced to look to the water to food, they develop an efficient method of fishing involving swimming underwater to catch fish. Over a period of 1,000,000 years, natural selection favors those who can more easily glide through the water, thus they develop a streamline body-type and smaller brains.
How did this even make the home page?
skin is from the amount of meninoma in your skin.....
wrong word...
Then it's no wonder Americans are morons compared to the Brits, amirite?
evolution is crap
Actually, OP is correct on the evolution mark. As much as they avoid the topic, any true evolutionist believes black people are less evolved. Because yes, more evolved "species" are thought to have migrated away from Africa. Also, have you seen Homo Erectus? It honestly looks like some black guy I know: http://www.google.com/search?si...%20erectus#i=7
No, OP, that wouldn't be racist at all. Unfortunately for those unintelligent enough to believe evolution, it never happened. Evolution didn't happen.
Your skin isn't linked to your brain. The skin changing was an advantage because of sunlight, it had nothing to do with intelligence. Studies show that there is no connection between race and intelligence.
Uh, did I say the skin color made a difference? No. According to the evolution THEORY, black people are less evolved. The more evolved specimens were capable of leaving Africa, and because of the change in geography, climate etc, supposedly they evolved more.
More evolved doesn't neccessarily mean more intelligent. They evolved in skin color, that doesn't mean they evolved in intelligence.
No, they evolved utterly, not just skin. Here: your beloved science proves whites are more intelligent then blacks: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2677098.ece
However, that is only true with the racist evolution theory, which isn't true, so all this is moot.
Oh my goodness, it's you again!!! Why?!?
Surprisingly, I don't feel like debating right now, so just going to say a couple things and leave.
-Since when is everything on the internet concrete fact? The links you're giving us look a bit shady. A article written by a guy based on his opinion cannot back up your own opinion.
-See that word in my last point? OPINION. People who are smart and want people to respect them do not speak like every sentence they utter is the law of the universe. Just because you say "Evaluation didn't happen." so matter-of-fact, doesn't actually make it a fact.
-"Science" doesn't say anything, because science isn't one big united thing that everyone agrees on. "Scientist CLAIMS." "THEORY of so-and-so." "DISPUTE over blah blah blah." Scientists disagree! They have different opinions! Different theories! Different research! (Shocking, huh) And there's many, many scientists.
I don't know what the theory of "evaluation" is, but it sums up the general intelligence of your comment.
First, nobody has provided real facts. Alright? Don't ask it from me and not expect it from them. We simply don't know because so much of science today is fraudulent.
Second, you seem to be under the impression that whatever anyone else links is correct, because it supports your views, and whatever I link is somehow unfactual. Okay, find it. You can't just say "maybe it could be slightly unfactual, so it's invalid". You have to find anything if you Want an iota of respect.
Second, you seem to be focusing on one tiny aspect of my argument. That isn't even my point, it's just funny to know that your beloved science is racist.
Third, the "evaluation" theory says that the more evolved moved away, and the less evolved (blacks) remained in Africa.
Wow, because you've spelled every single word in your life right? Excuse me for making a mistake. Maybe you should consider founding the Spelling Nazis? And while we're on mistakes, I should point out that you numbered your points 'First', 'Second', 'Second', 'Third'.
Exactly. Nobody has provided real facts of science, but they've come up with a ton more evidence than the theory that a greater being just created everything out of nothing. So much of religion is fraudulent too.
Did I say that? Did I say that their links are right? No, I just said that yours might not be the most trustworthy. But if you must have me say it, probably their links aren't that trustworthy either.
Did you not get my last point at all? I was saying that you cannot say science in itself is racist, because there are many different aspects of it. One scientist does not reflect all science, got it? So one scientist being racist does not mean all of science is being racist.
I may have messed up numbering due to my being on a phone, but at least I can spell what we're talking about...
Nice rebuttal... Not. It's a bunch of nonsense.
that is all speculation, there is not a single FACT in that paper that proves that blacks are less intelligent. He said "People that work with black employees found this [equal intelligence across the races] untrue." There was not a even an allusion to a test that proves this, and for all we know every person they asked was a racist.
So? That wasn't my point. Just that scientists think their science shows racism is justified.
but there is no science backing it, that doesn't even make sense.
We're on this again? That's it, I'm done here.
Unable to counter my point when your beloved science is racist?
you should probably stop saying 'less evolved', since skin change is defined as adaptation. this doesn't make black people less adapted either, as more melanin is an adaptation originally developed to come with the uv rays of africa
Yes, skin color is an adaptation, but have you seen the comparison of skulls?
A black person's skull (as viewed by "evaluation" mandates) is much more similar to a homo erectus than a Caucasians is.
It isn't just skin color.
well theory exists that the original homo sapien killed his brother homo erectus as part of the fight for survival. that means that ancestors of modern day africans existed at the same time as homo erectus.
that still doesnt make make them less evolved though. skull shape can change via natural and artificial selection. like that remote aboriginal tribe with two toed members, called the ostrich tribe in their native tongue. maybe african, i dont remember. it could also be that there was no reason for african skull shape to change because it was fully functional. Or the combination of both, evolutionary selection causing change in skull shape and adaptation causing change in skin tone.
also, how do you explain the mongoloid skull shape?
The OP isn't correct on the evolution mark, they're just a troll. And it's perfectly fine if you don't believe the theory of evolution, but you shouldn't spread lies about it just to try and give it a bad name.
Name one untruth in my statement.
"any true evolutionist believes black people are less evolved"
Yeah, anyone who believes in the theory of evolution has to believe Blacks are less evolved, because that is what the theory describes.
http://www.straight-talk.net/ev...n/racist.shtml
No, we don't, and it doesn't.
According to evolution, all life stems from a single source. Because it has had exactly the same amount of time to evolve, every species alive today is exactly as evolved as another. Black people are exactly as evolved as white people, who are exactly as evolved as snails, which are exactly as evolved as broccoli.
Of course, species such as the Tyrannosaurus Rex are less evolved than broccoli, since they are extinct and therefore have not been evolving these past 65 million years, but they were (by most definitions, ie those that define "smart" as "having a brain") smarter than broccoli. "Less evolved" and "more evolved" do not affect intelligence in any way.
You are confusing evolutionary theory with social darwinism. In the past, some people used Darwin's theories of natural selection to support their preexisting racist views. They would show differences in physical structure between the different races in an attempt to prove the superiority of one race. Recent scientific findings in genetics have shown that there is no correlation between race and how evolved someone is. Besides, the logic of social darwinists was greatly flawed due to their racial prejudices and it clouded their judgment and research.
If you went back to that link you posted, you'll notice that it states the opinions of many people, however none of these opinions or quotes give any examples of scientific research to support them.
no, soccerfan25 is right. that's social darwinism, a perversion of the theory made by racist pseudo-scientists in the 1800s and 1900s.
Okay, then even if that were true, then Darwin himself was racist. I'm pretty sure that Jesus wasn't racist. Oh well. We all know the superior theory anyway.
no, darwin wasn't racist. he happened to be a religious man with an even more religious wife.
social darwinism was a movement where people tried to use the struggle to survive in nature to justify keeping people down in society. doesn't hold water, but it did give nazi germany some ideas, and it's a real shame that it's a part of our history.
"[the idea that whites are better] was commonly reflected in science books published from 1880 and 1980." It's been 30 YEARS! "Today, all human beings in the world today, are classified as Homo Sapiens and scientists now admit that, biologically, there really is only one race of humans." "Recent IQ tests of people throughout the world have found that, with allowance for cultural differences, the IQ ranges of all extant identified races is extremely close. The pygmy population of Africa, supposedly the most backward race extant today, test close to average when acclimated to Western life. Few differences are found between the second and third generation pygmies living in large Australian cities who are acclimated to the established European population."
you really think that skin color relates to intelligence...so melatonin impedes brain functions now? have i made my point yet?
melatonin is a chemical released by the brain to shut down your body for sleep so your can "recharge" and heal up at night. also known as the "horomone of darkness"
no, OP is not correct. OP is [hopefully] trolling. I had thought from our previous debates you actually had some grasp of how evolution supposedly works. sorry i made that mistake...
God never happened.The reason fair skinned people are called "Caucasian" is because our ancestors came from the "Caucasian mountains"
That's why African people and Caucasian people have slightly different skull shapes.
Please use more than just that. You'll just get him preaching again and then we'll never hear the end of it.
Haha, how far in your ass did you have to reach to pull that statement out?
and bone structure cant change over time? just because a person is known by a place, doesn't mean they originated there. following your logic, we get 'americans are called americans because, guess what they originated in america'. the names we make for types of people are just that, manmade concepts. if not evolution, how could the biology of different types of people be so similar?
American isn't a race though, European isn't a race, African can be a race and a nationality though. I am talking about where a keyword race originated from. Also the bone structure could be different depending on where they evolved from. All humans evolved from one thing but under different geographical conditions specific groups evolved differently. I'm not trying to prove evolution because I know it's only a theory.
Uh-huh. Where did you make that up? Oh, and evidence?
I didn't make it up, why do you think white people are call "Caucasian" because we originated from there, black people are called African because, guess what they originated from Africa. Just because some one denies your statement doesn't mean they made it up.
Melanin is a pigment that is every persons skin that protects us from UV rays. Some people have more melanin than others. Black people have an abundance of melanin because they Originate from Countries (not just Africa) where the sun is more intense and they need more protection. White people originate from countries where there is less intense sunlight and less protection is needed.
Exactly that's the point I'm making, the Caucasian mountains are between Europe and Asia so naturally any race from there would not need that much Melanin. African people are from the areas that have more sun exposure which Africa has a lot.
Okay, what? The evolution theory doesn't say that at all. You really believe that two monkeys parallelly evolved simultaneously, one into whites, and one into blacks? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Evolution says that men came from monkeys in Africa. And once they were more evolved, they were capable of migrating to other places. So, the one's left behind (blacks) are less evolved.
And nobody has said anything valid to the contrary. Ah, it's a good day when people's beloved science blow up in their faces.
All humans came from monkeys in Africa.
And I'd be interested to see your views on Asians?
Also, Egyptians were African, and pretty advanced for any of the ancient civilisations...
Well, according to evolution, yeah. And the more evolved races were able to flee. This isn't my opinion; it's evolution. Which is racist.
And that means nothing. All that requires is the intellect of one man. MLK was pretty smart. So was the pharaoh.
Besides, one example means nothing. Out of 15 tries, a rat is statistically inevitable to choose the correct door out of two chooses. Does that mean rats are intelligent?
@833724 (scrantoncity):I think there was more than one clever person than the Pharoah.
There were no 'evolved races', there was one race, THE HUMAN RACE. And they didn't flee, they gradually migrated. And then Pangea broke up. They didn't say 'Ohh, it's nasty Africa, if we stay we'll turn stupid and less evolved' (And btw, black people AREN'T less evolved)
Well they aren't less evolved, becuase evolution never happened.
Eh maybe, but that doesn't mean anything, as evolution never happened.
But yeah, they could migrate. You do know what a supposed homo habilis looks like?
If there was no evolution, why the heck have you liked this post???
And yes, I do, but what has that got to do with anything?
Because the logic is right, and according to evolution, that happened.
Yeah, well Homo Erectus (woops I meant erectus not habilis) are fake, BUT scientists constructed him on their whims, and he was only 40% complete. And he looks like a human.
Choices*
Sorry, I was distracted.
people didn't evolve from monkeys, we just share a common ancestor which became either geographically or reproductively isolated, thus evolving into two different species
Obvisouly evolution happened we didnt just get up from the ground and say hey I'm human lets go run the fuck around and makeup languages dumb ass also yes bones can change over time
Right, fake austrilopithecuses, my bad.