Druid: Why are Christians celebrating Christmas on the Winter Solstice?!?! It's a time to pay homage to the spirits and nature ...not a zombie.
MONKEYTRUMPETS! The Solstice!
Christmas is no longer defined as strictly a "religious holiday." Over time, society has transformed Christmas into a universal holiday centered around generosity and family. The majority of people who celebrate the holiday do not actively observe Christianity.
Fine, we'll just call it Atheistmas then. Happy?
Even among most Christians, Christmas is more centered around gift-giving than actually celebrating Jesus Christ.
Actually, the whole idea of gift giving comes from the fact that Jesus was a gift from God, who died for our sins.
Yes, I am a Christian, no I'm not trying to get into the argument, I just wanted to provide that fact for you.
It's not actually. The practice of gift-giving comes from ancient Rome, where presents were exchanged on New Years. Early Christian leaders tried to outlaw the practice, but the people liked it too much. Christians then adopted gift-giving as a part of Christmas to attract more followers.
I have no concept of what you were trying to say in that comment.
Probably because people can celebrate whatever they want.
Holidays mean different things to different people. Just because you view Christmas one way, doesn't mean that everyone else views it the same way or attaches the same meaning.
I celebrate christmas not because of the religious part but because of family tradition so deal with it
Who's celebrating Christmas? I'm celebrating the joys of Capitalism!
We atheists just love kicking chistians in the jingle balls
I am Hindu but I celebrate Christmas. Think of it like this: If you moved to Israel where a lot of people around you were Jewish and celebrated Hanukkah would it be so terrible if you joined in on the fun?
Maybe I'd take this seriously without all the spelling mistakes
Christians pretty much stole Christmas from pagans, then renamed it to Christmas.
... So, he was born on December 25?
December 25 was originally the Pagan holiday to celebrate the rebirth of their Sun God, Mithras. The Roman Catholic Church decided to celebrate Jesus's birth on that day (although the Bible says he was born in spring) to make it easier for them to adjust to Christianity.
Christmas is now a cultural thing as much as (if not more than) a religious thing. Different countries celebrate it differently or not at all. Christians do go to church on that day, and I suppose that Pagans might have some kind of ritual as well, but the whole "giving presents to show people you love how much you appreciate them" thing isn't religious at all. Thus it makes sense for non-Christians to celebrate it as well.
Jesus was born in the summer. Christians have adopted Christmas to convince the Romans to convert to their religion, and they based it off if the Roman holiday Saturnalia, which is pretty much Christmas except they're celebrating Saturn. so Christmas isn't purely a Christian holiday
I heard that Jesus was born in spring, and that they moved it to December 25th to convince the pagans who celebrated the birth of the sun god Mithras at that time...
yah the church was big on exterminating paganism because they believed pagans were worshipping the devil in the form of their many gods so the christians placed their holidays over the pagan ones to get them to convert
Most Christians don't even celebrate it as the birth of Christ. They may claim that they do, but deep down, they don't. It's not about family, it's not about togetherness, and it's certainly not about Christ. It's all about the damn presents.
I am Christian and I know where I'm coming from.
Most of us celebrate Halloween, but not for the original purpose it served. We just like to dress up and get free candy, right?
wait you mean when i trick or treat in my costume the spirits of the dead aren't seeing me as a monster also and that my jack-o-lantern isn't keeping them away from my house?.....but....but....the candy....
Well said, DanielJames; took the words right off my fingertips.
Well to be fair, as a Christian I can't help but feel like this post is hypocritical. Why should we receive gifts if we are truly celebrating Jesus's birth? So yes, the holiday has Christian meaning, but 'pagan' traditions.
We recieve gifts because Jesus was the gift to us by God. So it is symbolic, but also true in the fact that gift giving isn't an actual part of the religious side of it.
I'm a Christian, and I sometimes celebrate Hanukkah.
Not the true birthday of christ but all those special facts beside. No kid thinks christmas then jesus. They think christmas-santa-jesus. Plus its more a commercial holiday than anything now days
oh no, not another religious argument..
Christ wasn't actually born in December. Also, everyone likes presents.
It is a pagan holiday. Why do people care so much what other people celebrate? Op has control issues...
The bible... Pics or it didn't happen
(WC-bulldog): theres no pics of anything that happened 2,000 years ago smarty, but theyre are books written by non- belivers from then recording all the things that jesus did, thats just as much proof as any other scriptures we find
How 'bout everyone just shuts up and lets others celebrate whatever the hell they want to? Personally, I think it's wrong. But I truely don't give a fuck.
christmas is more of a cultural thing than religious thing nowadays
I am an atheist who loooves Christmas. I like spending time with family and I do like presents :)
If you really were celebrating Jesus you would celebrate the fact he was of Jewish decent and would technically be celebrating the holiday of light. We could go on to question if the son of God was Jewish why are you not Jewish too but here is a pithole we will walk past.
Christmas hasn't been about Jesus in a long time. It never was truely about him but it was wrapped to look like it. If you want to stop spreading joy by taking away a holiday surely that is unchristian? Ergo you are not a christian and are a hypocritical person for celebrating christmas.
if you truly want to celebrate the birth of Christ, then stop giving presents and spend your Christmas at church. Oh and, you can't celebrate halloween either...
WHO THA FUK IS CHRISTIAN?!?!11?
Annoying troll is annoying
...no. You're wrong for so many reasons, all of which have already been stated up there.
These comments are stressful to read...just because it's not the actual day doesn't mean anything; you're still celebrating the birth of Jesus. That's my input to this (hopeless?) cause.
They had to change the name or else the Pope wouldn't allow it. They did anything they could to convert Romans so they made up "Christmas" from the festival of Saturnialia. The Word Christ is in there because its the Latin word for The Anointed One. Christians had to somehow change the image of that holiday to a more Christian View so people would be scared into following the Catholic Church.