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You're glad "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," was repealed, amirite?
by Anonymous14 years ago
very. :)
by Anonymous14 years ago
Anyone who thinks this is a good thing does not understand the military.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Anyone who thinks it's a bad thing does not understand that 70% of the military said allowing open gays in the military would have a positive affect or no affect on anything whatsoever.
by Anonymous14 years ago
@897389 (pikabeau): where are you getting this 70% stat?
by Anonymous14 years ago
The military did a servey for the past 18 months or so. It's the biggest research composed my military people ever. If I wasn't no mobile I'd give you a link. You can just google in yourself. Your information is outdated though.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Was there a company I could look up that facilitated the poll?
by Anonymous14 years ago
Just look up DADT poll. You'll get tons of results. The most recent survey is the whole reason it got overturned.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Yep. Cuz the generals and the other leaders of our military along with 70%+ of soldiers in the military obviously don't get how it works. Herp derp.
by Anonymous14 years ago
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/12/marine_corps_commandant_agains.html
That's a Marine Corps Commandant. How's that for a military leader, smartass?
by Anonymous14 years ago
Cool. He's in the minority. According the a study which literally every member serving in the armed forces filled out, repealing DADT will have little to no effect on military operations. Every other advanced democracy on Earth has allowed gays to serve openly for years with no problems.
by Anonymous14 years ago
I'd like to read this study.
by Anonymous14 years ago
It was all over the news, you can probably Google it pretty quickly. The point is that the vast majority of our militaty's leaders, people serving in the military, and Americans in general were for repeal.
by Anonymous14 years ago
A 2006 Zogby International poll of military members found that 26% were in favor of gays serving in the military, 37% were opposed, while 37% expressed no preference or were unsure. Of the respondents who had experience with gays in their unit, 6% said their presence had a positive impact on their personal morale, 66% said no impact, and 28% said negative impact. Likewise, regarding overall unit morale, 3% said positive impact, 64% no impact, and 27% negative impact. As for respondents uncertain whether they had served with gay personnel, 2% thought gays would have a positive effect on personal morale, while 29% thought that they would have no impact and 48% thought that they would have a negative effect. Likewise, regarding overall unit morale, 2% thought that gays would have a positive effect on overall unit morale, 26% thought they would have no effect, and 58% thought they would have a negative effect.
by Anonymous14 years ago
That was four years ago, and it wasn't conducted by the military itself and answered by literally everyone who is serving. I'm pretty sure that the recent one is a tad bit more comprehensive and accurate. An analysis I read of it said that most soldiers surveyed weren't really passionate about it either way, they just didn't care. Im pretty sure that the people we send out to harsh environments to kill our enemies and risk their lives for years on end can handle the knowledge that Rick in Unit C is gay.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Overall, 70 percent of military personnel thought that integrating gays into the military would be positive, mixed, or of no consequence However, 40 to 60 percent of personnel in the Marine Corps and combat specialties said that repealing the ban would be negative.
I see your positive 70 stat now. The negative 40-60 stat comes from the elite branches of the military, which admittedly has a smaller percentage of the 400,000 servicemembers polled.
by Anonymous14 years ago
So let's go back to your original comment. 70% of the military doesn't understand the military?
by Anonymous14 years ago
Let's take the above as a learning experience for me, and I revise my admittedly arrogant claim. I'm against the repeal cause I don't want guys getting killed because they don't trust the gay guy next to them. Total trust is a necessity in tense, high risk situations.
by Anonymous14 years ago
I see your point, and that is the only criticism of repealing DADT I've heard that actually carries some weight.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_ask,_don't_tell#Military_personnel_opinion
by Anonymous14 years ago
I'm not sure if thats a true study, since, ya know, the link isn't even real
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by Anonymous14 years ago
Do explain what I don't understand about the military.
by Anonymous14 years ago
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/12/marine_corps_commandant_agains.html
Read that. Then read this (my opinion):
Military fighting units necessitate an incredibly close bond of unconditional trust and brotherhood. A straight guy is hesitant to form such a bond with a gay guy. Fighting units can't afford to have that kind of disunity; it hinders the unit's ability to perform in combat and could get them all killed.
by Anonymous14 years ago
It sounds like we should be banning homophobes, not homosexuals.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Any military organization that does not teach rigorous self-control is a joke and wouldn't last more than 3 years.
by Anonymous14 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service
Read that, it's very interesting and shows that in the countries that do allow people to be open about their sexuality there have been no problems with it.
by Anonymous14 years ago
How is a straight guy fighting with a gay guy any different than a straight guy fighting with a straight women?
by Anonymous14 years ago
The Pentagon released a 100 plus page report on the effects of the repeal.
The findings saw no downside to allowing gays to serve openly in the military.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Although it's obviously a god idea I doubt a giant cloud of gay people are going to rush to the recruitment offices
by Anonymous14 years ago
hahaha i dont understand why DADT was that big of a deal.. It doesnt ban gay people.. and the homophobes dont have to know they are sleeping next to a gay.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Homosexuals had to hide their true selves and if they were injured or killed, their family (meaning significant other and possible children) would not be notified because they were considered to have no family.
by Anonymous14 years ago
are you all just a bunch of fucking homophobes?? like..yeah...the straight homophobes don't have to know they're next to a gay guy so just shut the fuck up! and unless you're planning on going into the military, this shit doesnt apply to you. our troops will save each others lives, gay or not, we've done it for ages. so everyone shut up if you agree with this. you fucking homophobes.
by Anonymous14 years ago
(fuck you sicko): Are you stupid? Those who agree are GLAD it's gone. And no one who has commented has said "OMG IM SO MAD IT WAS1111111!!!111oneoneone!"
by Anonymous14 years ago
um, what does it mean that it was repealed? that it doesn't matter anymore? i seriously don't know..sorry.
by Anonymous14 years ago
It was a law. Now it's not a law.
by Anonymous14 years ago
http://tinyurl.com/37e5cwe
by Anonymous14 years ago
Ah, freedom of speech.
by Anonymous14 years ago
Dadt doesn't ban gay people.. it just tells you to not ask what someones sexual preference. I don't know how people take that up the ass and are so against it. Why would you openly tell me you're gay? Do I honestly give a fuck? Its like a straight person telling me they're straight... whoopy fucking do. In the military, you're suppose to act professional, not annoucing the gender you love and having sex, whatever your gender. Take that stick out your ass before you go against something you don't know about or think is wrong when its not.
by Anonymous14 years ago
The problem with DADT was if someone did find out for ANY reason they kicked you out of the military. I think the people who speak out against letting openly gays serve in the military are hilarious. Its THEM who they are fighting to secure that right to speak out against a government decision.
Ignorant ridiculous people.
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