I would agree to this post if it were the old shows like Lizzie McGuire and That's So Raven and The Proud Family.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

i like phineas and ferb, its not too bad. i might stop watching someday in the future when i stop watching tv with my lil bro tho.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I already stopped.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It's already happening, bro. Slowly but surely...

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Well, maybe not NEVER, but not for another few years. I started watching in second grade, I think, and I'm starting senior year tomorrow. A lot of people may say it's gone downhill, but I'm only going to say I agree with that as of about a year ago, because I haven't liked any new shows since ANT Farm. So I also don't like Jessie, My Babysitter's a Vampire, or Fish Hooks. (Also, I didn't like Let it Shine, but I did love Radio Rebel.) But I do genuinely like Good Luck Charlie, Shake it Up, Phineas and Ferb, and ANT Farm, so I'm probably gonna stick around until all of those end. :) (Also, I have sort of a love-hate relationship with Austin and Ally.) And for the record, there have been a fair amount of shows I've disliked over all the eras. Even when I was a kid, I never personally liked Kim Possible, The Proud Family, Even Stevens, or Life With Derek.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Why so down-voted? Really, I'm curious...

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I actually started rewatching it, solely for Gravity Falls. It's a pretty quality show. It's cute and clever with a slightly dark side, and has continuity, which is incredibly rare for a cartoon. I'm surprised it's on Disney.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Phineas and Ferb is a genuinely good show and I've heard there's a newer show that it actually pretty decent compared to the other crappy stuff they show. I'll never stop watching Disney movies, but I stopped watching the Disney channels years ago, when they stopped showing That's so Raven and Lizzie Mcguire after school.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I stopped watching it awhile ago. I sometimes watch when they play Beauty and The Beast or Phineas and Ferb or something but it's gotten so bad. Some of the messages they send aren't appropriate. During one of the Shake It Up episodes, there was a model who said, "I could just eat you up... You know, if I ate." That bothered me to absolutely no end. They advertise themselves as a kid channel, yet they don't act like one. As stereotypical as it sounds, Disney was better beforehand.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Sorry to seem nitpicky, but I just wanted to comment on that whole eating disorder controversy. That was a passing comment made by a nameless character who was obviously portrayed as a "mean girl," so therefore it's somewhat implied that her behavior is not good. Also, I fee like if that one joke were really so controversial, then people would have complained about it right after the episode aired instead of almost a year after it aired, and the people complaining would have been the parents, not Demi Lovato. Still, I have noticed that on the "Parental Info" section on my TV, shows like Good Luck Charlie and Shake it Up are graded as "OK for 7+," and I think that's a problem. These shows are appropriate for AN age group, but I'm not sure that that's the right one.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

You don't seem nitpicky. You just have an opinion and that's fine. I understand where you're coming from, however, I have seen a few parents complain. Nothing big, but I have noticed it happen. I realise that it's supposed to be a joke, but an eating disorder is never something to joke about. I think it just sends a bad message. I coach a gymnastics camp over the summer and I had the hardest time getting one girl to eat during lunch because she "wants to be skinny so she could be a model." I don't know if she got the idea from Disney Channel or not, but even if she didn't, Shake It Up is just reinforcing that it's okay to be not eat to lose weight.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Thanks for being understanding. :) By nitpicky I really meant that I was only responding to one of your points. Anyway... "Shake it Up is just reinforcing that it's okay to not eat to lose weight." <-- This is the kind of generalization that I have a problem with though. Coming from someone who watches the show, I don't think they have all that many jokes like that. They make fun of smart people, but in all honesty Lizzie McGuire and That's So Raven kinda did too. There was one episode of Shake it Up where they made fun of people with promise rings, and that was a little cringing. But other than that, it's actually a relatively clean show. I also don't think that Disney Channel is the only place where kids are getting this stuff. I was babysitting a nine-year-old a few weeks ago, and she was watching Family Guy, which isn't even aimed at kids her age. So clearly kids are watching a lot of things that they really shouldn't be watching. I think part of the problem for me is that I have actually yet to meet a kid like the one in your gymnastics class. I did know one girl with an eating disorder, but she was 15. How old was this girl? (Please reply back; I'm enjoying this debate!)

by Anonymous 11 years ago

(Sorry, I'm replying slowly. I'm in the car on the way home from a wedding this weekend and I'm trying to juggle homework that's due tomorrow, too) Yeah, that was quite a generalisation. I probably should have worded that better... How about, that particular line is reinforcing the idea that it's okay to not eat in order to be skinny. I feel like that's still a bit of a generalisation but whatever. I'm tired lol I don't think I remember an episode of Lizzie McGuire or That's So Raven doing that. Could you find me some evidence? I don't mean to sound rude. I truly don't remember. I do, however, remember in one episode of my favourite shows, The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, London wouldn't eat because her friend made a snarky comment about her weight. I didn't like that either. I agree with kids not watching what they should. I don't necessarily mean to say that it's all Disney channel's fault. What I mean is that it's just not helping anything. The girl at camp was eleven, which I think is too young to be worrying about this sort of thing. I mean, nobody should be worrying so much about their weight to the point where they starve themselves, however eleven is just so young...

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Haha, your fixed point is just fine and perfectly accurate. It's just a bit of a pet peeve of mine because I feel like that ONE line was blown way out of proportion. Also, I remember that Suite Life episode, but that was different because the plot revolved around that comment from the snarky friend and ended with London learning that her friend was wrong. The intent of that episode was explicitly to say that you shouldn't worry about whether your friends like how you look. I'm really sorry, I looked through several episodes of Lizzie McGuire on YouTube and I couldn't find any specific examples, but I just remember this one episode where Gordo was saying something nerdy and Lizzie snakily said something like, "English please?" Anyway, I definitely felt bad about myself for being smart in elementary school, but because it was only TV that was enforcing that and not school, I got over it quickly. Anyway, my point is that the older shows weren't actually as pure as people make them out to be. I agree that eleven is definitely too young. It is believable though; I'm just a little more skeptical about people who claim that it's happening to six- and seven-year-olds.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yeah, that one line was blown out of proportion but it just bothered me so much. I'm about to get personal here, but I've seen my mom and my sisters and even myself get somewhat carried away with trying to lose weight and be "beautiful." It's just not something I would like anyone to joke about since it hits so close to the heart, but I can't stop anyone from doing it. I guess the way that Lizzie was snarky towards Gordo bothered you in the same way that the eating disorder thing bothered me. Either one isn't acceptable in my opinion, however they are there and I guess we have to deal with them. I agree with older shows not being as pure as people think, however, they weren't as obvious about the way they were said and done. And I don't think I've met anyone who's younger than eleven develop an eating disorder. I'm not saying that it's not there because you never know, however, it's unlikely for it to occur. I'd be skeptical had I never met the child as well.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about it being a touchy subject. To be honest, the intelligence thing wasn't even that life-scarringly difficult for me. It just made me unhappy. Um...other than that, it seems like we're on the same page here, so yeah! :)

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yup! This was a nice debate. I rather enjoyed it. Thanks for providing entertainment for me on my way home! :D

by Anonymous 11 years ago