Why are whales so judgemental?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

...what? I don't get it

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Math lesson: Say there are about 500 billion species of animals. 450 Divided by 500 billion. 9x10^(-9). Very small percentage. Try the 1/500 billion. That's 2x10^(-10). That's just a little less than a thirtieth of a change. Both of them are unnatural. One compared to the other is just a thirtieth of a change. Don't act like 450 to 1 is a big change in number when you're talking about species, which is on a "billions" scale.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i think their point was that it's a natural occurrence to have homosexual activity in over 450 species that have no concept of god and whats considered right and wrong, while theres only 1 species in which some deem it unacceptable. they weren't talking about one percentage compared to the other.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

oh ya i understand the point, and actually agree, just saying, the tactic of the post in order to sound clever was pointless when the numbers are really looked at.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

well the post says over 450 species, so that could mean 500 billion species

by Anonymous 14 years ago

um...that was just stupid. my thoughts tho

by Anonymous 14 years ago

how is that stupid? the post says "OVER 450 species", and correct me if im wrong, but i think 500 billion is over 450.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Homosexuality probably occurs in more than 450 species, but it just hasn't been observed by humans. Also, remember that 'species' includes organisms that don't have sexual intercourse, like many kinds of fish in which the female lays eggs and the male fertilizes them afterwards.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's actually been observed by humans in more than 1500 species. But there is probably more.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

what a noob

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If something occurs in nature, then by definition it is not "unnatural".

by Anonymous 14 years ago

500 billion animal species? What planet do you live on?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

bacteria...up to animals...read a biology book.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Lol bacteria aren't animal species. They are in an entirely different kingdom.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Thank you.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

ok... 500 billion organsisms in the animal and otherwise kingdome. big difference.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

quote me where he said animal species?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The OP didn't, you did "Say there are about 500 billion species of animals". Which even if you were talking about all living organisms on earth is still a gross exaggeration haha considering only about 2 million species have been identified, and the estimate of all species is 100 million.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

ok ok touche'. But regardless, that would just make it (if I said 500 million) 9x10^-6 and 2x10^-5 respectively. Still a 30th change.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yeah I get where you're coming from too. I think the post should have said animals because species includes plants and bacteria etc... and even then, lots of animals re-produce asexually or externally (like fish). The actual number of animals that humans have observed homosexuality in is over 1500 but it would occur in more. But like someone else said the point is that homosexuality is a natural occurrence of varied sexuality in nature. And that homophobia is a social condition.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

the United Kingdom..

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yes.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You know who ELSE is found in over 450 species? My MOM!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Muscle Man): Seriously dude, you're getting old...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You know who ELSE is getting old? ... I think you DO.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Muscle Man): Yeah I get it dude. I watch regular show. I laugh at Pop's funny antics, laugh at Benson's anger, laugh at Rigby's foolishness, but you... thanks to you the only thing I don't laugh at is MUSCLE MAN!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

SHUTHEFUGUP, NIGGA BICHAZ LIP SMACKERZ! Yo mom's got hemroids on her eyelids. HOW THE HELL She git DEM DERE? WHATHEHELL, MAN? -Trya

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Tyra Banks, mofo):

by Anonymous 14 years ago

... and scene. *humbly bows*

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Also only observed in one species: Sentience

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Cannibalism and eating your own children are found in many species... Have any better arguments come out in the past decade or so?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(lkun):Man you just ruined this post for me. Good point though.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So cannibalism isn't wrong.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

No. It just means cannibalism is natural.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

and if it's natural then it's perfectly acceptable?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Not necessarily.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

thats what i'm saying. We can't deem things acceptable based on whether or not animals do it.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Nobody ever said you could. The OP only pointed out that homosexuality is a natural and instinctive behavior unlike homophobia. Homosexuality should be accepted because there is no reason not respect other peoples personal relationships.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

@1199453 (fEMMAnist): All I'm saying is that people shouldn't say "if penguins are doing it then so can I." I don't believe there is any reasonable argument for someone without religion to bash homosexuality. BUT THE BIBLE SAYS.... blah blah blah, you've heard it before. Do you really think there's no reason to disrespect other people's relationships? Under any circumstances? Even incest? Even Bondage between 19 year old girls and old men in their 80s who are willing to take advantage of the vulnerable youth? I don't want to argue, though. And I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to change my views which makes the debate invalid.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

When I said peoples "personal relationships" I meant happy healthy safe relationships, not incest, rape, pedophilia, abuse, virgin sacrifices ect. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. What I meant to say is that so long as no one is getting hurt, other people's lives are none of our business.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That's just an easy way out of the argument. Peacefully co-existing will get you far in this world, but as to whether something is right or wrong is not the same subject. What the question is with personal relationships is is where do we draw the line? What's tolerated by one generation will be accepted by the next then embraced by the following. Sooner or later, children will be exposed to homosexuality so early that they may question and then change their sexual preferences against what they would have been otherwise. There will be kids believing they're gay and pursuing that lifestyle while suppressing their heterosexuality. I've seen it happen. I know a girl who looked up to her role models and imitated their world, found out that idol was gay, questioned her own sexuality, and then decided she was bi. I think it's a phase she'll grow out of, but who knows? Is that okay? Is this a better happier world?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Your sex drive is the result of billions of years of evolution; you can't just wake up one morning and decide you're homosexual. Your sexuality is embedded in your DNA and you can't change it like that. If you don't believe me, try becoming gay for a week. You also can't really control who you fall in love with. If you know a girl who is bi, hooray for you, I do too. What's the big deal?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You're getting defensive, I'm gonna go watch 30 rock

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Bye bye have fun!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You too! I hope that didn't come across as sarcastic

by Anonymous 14 years ago

:)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Learning about homosexuality will not make children that would grow up to be straight, suddenly be gay. It will, however, create a safer future for the children that do grow up to be gay. Your sexual orientation isn't defined by what influences you as a child - until the past few decades, only heterosexual couples, heterosexual relationships, etc., were shown on television and discussed - by that logic, everyone should have been heterosexual, since heterosexuality was 99.9% of what they were exposed to, what they saw on television, what they were taught in school, etc.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Exactly. I can vouch for this. If watching television about gay people made you gay, I'd be the most lesbian woman ever. After watching every single episode of Glee ever and Brokeback mountain (soo sad!!) several dozen times, I'm still as straight as ever.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Exactly. As for the natural thing, I personally don't think that if something is found in nature or not is a good argument, because of the fact that so much is unnatural in our lives. Not just technology, but society - like, the nuclear family is unnatural. Every culture has had some type of kinship system to prevent incest, but the idea of a monogamous couple with only their biological children that is the norm in Western Europe, North America and Australia/NZ is highly unnatural. I just try and explain it like - a man is a consenting adult, a woman is a consenting adult - two consenting adults can have sex, enter a relationship, and enter legal contracts, whether it be opposite-sex or same-sex.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

But cannibalism isn't actually natural as most animal species get sick from eating their own species. You're not meant to eat your own species. It happens sometimes, but isn't considered "normal" within any species (that I know of) as a food source. Homosexuality is accepted as normal within nature.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Scorpion mothers eat their young if they linger to long in the nest. I believe that a primatologist witnessed two chimpanzees that killed and ate the offspring of other females (this may be wrong though). Female praying mantises consume their mates after copulation. There are other's that I can't think of right now...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Ok, praying mantis... I did know that one. The other things aren't necessarily normal, though. And it's still not eating their own species as a food source (which is what I said). I know that lions will eat their young as well, but not as a food source.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Dolphins off the coast of southern Australia have been observed raping females of the different dolphin pods. Sea louse babies eat the dried out husk of the mother after they hatch. The japanese red bug has been known to steal food from other red bugs. These were all off the top of my head so bear with any factual inaccuracies...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Only 450 species? There has to be way more than that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

EVERYONE. Just go to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jrh8VVwMI4 It clears up this whole thing better than I could. It talks about how the "penguins are gay, so being gay is natural" argument is OK, but it's not the best you can make when the "homosexuality is unnatural" argument comes up in conversation. That's why I'm not voting.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'm 12, what is this?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

amirite and no it is not patrick

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I saw this as a youtube comment like 2 weeks ago...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Cool story bro

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'd just like to know how they gauge homophobia in other species. As far as we know, every one of those 450 species could exhibit homophobia.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Dolphins and Zebras rarely protest at gay people's funerals. Just saying.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

How would they protest? It's not exactly like they can carry around picket signs.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Rapes and murders occurs in all species too. Just to establish dominance... So I guess we should let them all out of jail cause it's just "natural." see how ignorant you sound?!

by Anonymous 12 years ago