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Teachers should get paid a much larger salary. After all they ARE basically giving students their future and teaching them what they know to use in the real world. Teachers make students get the successful jobs, because of what they teach and how much they're pushing the student. Yes, the motivation also comes from the student, but the teacher primarily is the one who motivates them to do well,... amirite?

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I believe that GOOD teachers should be paid larger salaries. It's not fair to the students that just because of a teachers union that mediocre teachers can't just be fired. Tip to anyone aspiring to be a teacher: Work at a private school. You'll have to work harder, but you'll also most likely get paid more.

@StickCaveman I believe that GOOD teachers should be paid larger salaries. It's not fair to the students that just because of a...

Private school teachers suprisingly make much less. Since the school is private, it is not maintained by any local, state, or federal funds. All the money recieved in tuition, goes into the school.

@JTH1987 Private school teachers suprisingly make much less. Since the school is private, it is not maintained by any...

Yes, but they have incentives in the form of a less stressful work environment, exemption from standardized testing, and better resources. Pros and cons.

@StickCaveman I believe that GOOD teachers should be paid larger salaries. It's not fair to the students that just because of a...

Private school teachers might as well get paid in gum. They get paid very little (and then spend much class time complaining about how much more public school teachers are paid even though their test scores are lower, etc...)

Considering the public education I've received, they get paid plenty.

I would go for incentive based pay. If you're a good teacher, you get paid more. If you're a bad teacher, you get fired. But no no no, the liberals won't allow that, because teachers are sacred.

@pantherfanatic Considering the public education I've received, they get paid plenty. I would go for incentive based pay. If...

Well I think we need a better way to evaluate what makes a "good" and "bad" teacher. Standardized testing is stressful and not the best measure of teaching (in my opinion), and it forces many teachers who have potential to give it up.

(This is what happened to my older brother)

@ender Well I think we need a better way to evaluate what makes a "good" and "bad" teacher. Standardized testing is...

I don't see another method that could work. If a teacher feels overly stressed by standardized testing, I fear they might not be the best teacher. I can't speak for all states, but in Texas, the standardized test is the easiest thing I've ever taken. I took 3 of them last week on separate days, and I finished them all before lunch (we're given all the time we need.)

@pantherfanatic I don't see another method that could work. If a teacher feels overly stressed by standardized testing, I fear they...

Standardized tests are easy as shit, but I would consider myself a fairly intelligent person.

And I learned to read and do math really early on because my parents taught me and I went to public school in an upper class community with lots of taxes, i.e. a good school.

A lot of worse inner-city schools have high turnovers for their jobs, because of the high-stress environments and bad pay. The teachers therefore are young and unexperienced. All teachers are better the more years they teach and the more they work on their lesson plans. Established and older teachers will go to better districts.

What happened with my brother is that his first year of teaching he had a stand-out class that tested really well, and his classes after that could not score as high, even though his teaching improved. It was just by chance. Because of the school's policies though, he couldn't get a raise because his testing wasn't improving. So he left teaching.

@LittleRed You can't evaluate a teacher based on student performance.

Similarly to how you can't evaluate a car company's value based on their cars.

@pantherfanatic Considering the public education I've received, they get paid plenty. I would go for incentive based pay. If...

"but no no no, the liberals won't allow that"
Speaking of generalizations, since you Conservatives are homophobic, we'll call it even Steven.

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@"but no no no, the liberals won't allow that" Speaking of generalizations, since you Conservatives are...

(TeaBagger.): Ah, the joys of trolling. Unfortunately, you're an idiot.
The mistake you made is confusing policy with personal attacks. I would not say it is a generalization to say Conservatives are against gay marriage, but to call them homophobic is completely different.

@pantherfanatic (TeaBagger.): Ah, the joys of trolling. Unfortunately, you're an idiot. The mistake you made is confusing policy...

No it isn't....
A generalization can be made with most statements on virtually any subject. To say that all Consevqtives are homophobic, that they hate/fear gays, is a generalization.

Ahh idiocy... Assuming random things to be trolling..

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@No it isn't.... A generalization can be made with most statements on virtually any subject. To say that all...

(TeaBagger.): Right. But to equate a common principle held in liberalism to a personal and baseless attack shows a great degree of stupidity.

@pantherfanatic (TeaBagger.): Right. But to equate a common principle held in liberalism to a personal and baseless attack shows a...

To be against homosexuality because it goes outside of normal and "moral reasons" isn't a conservative principle? Because being against something "out of the norm" isn't Conservative principle? Holy shit, you aren't just an idiot; you're a dumbass.

Oh and "spending money on teachers" isn't just straight-up liberal priniciple. Especially if it comes to classic Liberals.

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@To be against homosexuality because it goes outside of normal and "moral reasons" isn't a conservative principle?...

(TeaBagger.): Once again, you display your arrogant stupidity. There is a difference in opposing gay marriage, and being "homophobic", which is to fear gays.

America does not typically use the "classical Liberal" definition of liberal, so that is not who I am referring to.

Why don't you get a real account if you are going to debate people?

@pantherfanatic Considering the public education I've received, they get paid plenty. I would go for incentive based pay. If...

I came here to say exactly what you said. My old Spanish II teacher who made us do bookwork while she checked her email every day should not be paid more and she certainly should not be paid the same as the other Spanish II teacher who actually teaches class in an informative and entertaining way.

@fEMMAnist I came here to say exactly what you said. My old Spanish II teacher who made us do bookwork while she checked her...

Exactly. Pay the good teachers more, and fire the bad teachers, instead of making teachers invincible.

Teachers should be paid more but bureaucrats who don't do anything shouldn't be paid very much at all. And teachers shouldn't be given tenure, if they screw up they should still be able to be punished.

My teachers don't motivate me. I motivate myself. I'm not excited about writing essays; I do it to get the grade.
I think that teachers should be paid more, but only if they're doing a good job.

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And all the unpaid overtime they have to do grading/creating assignments and such.

Vacas avatar Vaca Yeah You Are +6Reply

Plus, elementary school teachers are pretty much free babysitters. Think about it; parents who work full time hire nannies/babysitters... until they start school. Then they have someone watching AND teaching their child for most of the day.

Splashs avatar Splash Yeah You Are +3Reply

I mean they do have summers off...

Funnyplantss avatar Funnyplants Yeah You Are +1Reply
@Funnyplants I mean they do have summers off...

They spend the first part of summer grading finals, and the rest of it creating lesson plans for the upcoming year.

LittleReds avatar LittleRed Yeah You Are +2Reply
@LittleRed They spend the first part of summer grading finals, and the rest of it creating lesson plans for the upcoming year.

Both my parents are teachers, and I can tell you they definitely have a lot of time off.

Funnyplantss avatar Funnyplants Yeah You Are +3Reply
@Vepix There's always summer-school.

You don't need to teach summer school if you're a teacher, and if you do you get payed extra

Funnyplantss avatar Funnyplants Yeah You Are +1Reply

I bet this was written by a teacher...

They have summer off, breaks off, and weekends off and get off at 4(ish)... People say they don't get paid enough but it is equal to someone who works all year all day and gets paid a little more... Plus they are protected by their union. The only problem is the layoffs, not the pay

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They only have to work 180 days a year. Weekends, breaks, and summers off. Not to mention healthcare benefits. My mom is a teacher, even though she doesn't get paid much, she has a really good schedule.

So if I ace a test about World War II, and then go on to be CEO of a major banking firm, I should thank my history teacher for it?

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Actually, everyone i know got better jobs going into trades then the people who went into university. Also, my mom went to university to become a nurse when she was young, but then quit to raise a family, and now that she wants to become a nurse again, she has to take schooling all over again. So, really school is not useful for anything in the future.

how does knowing the geography of russia help with ANYTHING in the real world?

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