I'm not celebrating that he's dead, but I am glad that he is dead. He killed over 3,000 people, and there probably would have been more in deaths in the future if we had not killed him. He is a man that deserved to die, to protect the lives of innocent citizens.
We're in a war. Killing the leader of enemy forces is an accomplishment. And what he did in the past exponentially increases the value of that accomplishment.
Also, the United States is not parading around with his head on a platter. In fact, we did quite the opposite. We disposed of his body in accordance with Islamic law and refused to reveal the photos of his gruesome remains.
You are partially correct. Islamic law states that the body must be buried within 24 hours of death, preferably on land, unless he or she dies at sea. They stayed in accordance with the 24 hours post mortem burial, but buried him at sea because it would have been nearly impossible to do otherwise. They would've been hard-pressed to find a nation willing to take his remains.
That's what he said - they didn't want to make something for his followers to gather around.
Personally, I think the fact that the US tried to be respectful of Islamic law when they had no obligation to is commendable, and certainly raised my view of the US government and military.
It's a metaphor, not a physical gift hurrdurrr I'm just saying it's something that happens so that other people can experience the gift of life. Equilibrium, bro.
I meant it's sacred from like people celebrating... Like a sacred topic for conversation...i don't know how much sense that makes, but it makes sense to me...
Are we seeking power for power’s sake? Or are we seeking to make the world and our nation better places to live. If we seek the latter, violence can never provide the answer. The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I feel indifferent about this one. Yeah, it is someone dying and it's not good to want someone to be dead, but this guy is responsible for the deaths of a LOT of people. I'm not having a party or anything, but I'm definitely not going to be upset about it.
Not only did he kill 3,000+ people, but he was the main "resource" of getting bombs and money. I'm glad hes dead. He was the reason my family members died. He killed his own people, and that was a shame.
The message behind his death is a powerful one that you can rejoice in. A man who did evil won't do evil anymore. However, I believe that to celebrate a death and rejoice that he will burn in hell isn't right. He was no doubt a cruel and bad person, but to rejoice like that over his death is what I view as cruel. It's one thing to rejoice his death and another thing to rejoice that the evil he has done is over.
What's to celebrate?
Okay Osama is dead, but its not like the Al Queda is gone. There are still thousands of extremists out there worst than Osama, who are still actively plotting and funding terrorist agendas. And most people don't even know the full story behind his life. He started out working for the CIA, for this country! We basically trained him to do what he did. Osama ultimately got what he wanted, he stated that the whole point of 9/11 was to destroy America's economy and therefore our power. Well look at us now after 9/11 we're in several wars, in trillions of dollars of debt and do you know that a trillion dollars and ten years have been spent just to kill one man?! And this is what we celebrate?
We should be focusing on demanding for troops to be sent home and to stop interjecting in every single crisis that shows up on the planet. That would be something to celebrate. The fight for human rights and domestic stability are the only 'sacred' things in this circumstance.
Well, you're right in principle (which is why I gave you the YYA) but not in practice. You're saying that the goal is to minimize death, and although that it usually the case when it comes to issues of killing, it makes sense to kill 1 person to prevent the death of thousands more.
For example, you would agree that it'd be alright to kill one person to save millions, right? I know that's not the same thing but it relates.
No, because I honestly kind of agree he should have been killed... Because its not really possible to serve 3000 odd life sentences, but I do think that no person (or group of people) have the right to take anothers life (yea my beliefs are fairly contradictory.) i do however, believe he should have gotten a trial and I certainly don't think anyone should party over the death of a human being
Yea maybe you're right, I am idealistic, but I still don't know how people can celebrate the death of a human being, no matter how bad they are. I mean be happy sure (I'm not really though because I think his death will provoke al quada) but partying over the death of someone is morally wrong.
How is the government celebrating publicly? Yes, they're happy they've finally stopped a terrorist who killed thousands. But as DanielJames said, the US government chose NOT to display Osama.
How SHOULD people be acting? The man is responsible for the death of thousands. I'm happy he's dead. I think that people are actually acting a lot better than they could be, which actually says a lot about the tolerance of Americans.
Also, it's not just Americans who are celebrating. There was an uproar of celebration throughout the world when he was killed.
If you're American then you lost a lot. If not, well, I dunno... I'm Canadian. Our economy is affected by the American economy, and there are hundreds of Canadian soldiers fighting right now. My best friend is going over seas next year. We've all lost something, one way or another. Terrorism hurts everyone.
Agreed and most of the young people celebrating his death in Times Square probably don't know why they're celebrating. You go up and ask them, "Why are you celebrating?" "Well Osama's dead.." "Well why did he get killed?" "9/11 of course." They probably don't know anything else other than what happened in 9/11.
Death is a sacred thing no matter who is dying. Sure he killed +3,000 people and you have a right to be happy that he's dead. But don't celebrate over a death, and especially if you're a Catholic Christian. That's a direct violation of the 5th Commandment to be celebrating so publicly over that.
For all the people he killed and families he has destroyed... I think his death is fine to celebrate. At least some hurt ones who have suffered because of him will feel alright knowing the person who has caused them soo much pain finally won't hurt others.
But Him dying won't bring back their loved ones, if we celebrate his death, essentially aren't we at least close to being as bad as him? I think it certainly brings us closer...
Obviously a fair trial, in which he would get a chance to speek and give words of encouragement to other terrorists, and make him more of a martyr in their eyes... That would have gone over well.
I think they did the right thing. Killed him, but decided not to display him.
I'm not celebrating that he's dead, but I am glad that he is dead. He killed over 3,000 people, and there probably would have been more in deaths in the future if we had not killed him. He is a man that deserved to die, to protect the lives of innocent citizens.
exactly. he was an asshole who deserve to burn in hell :-)
Agreed! I hate how people say it was bad that we killed him. It's so un-American.
Wow, that was extremely racist.
Exactly, but the death of a human being should never be celebrated, that's just ethically wrong
We're in a war. Killing the leader of enemy forces is an accomplishment. And what he did in the past exponentially increases the value of that accomplishment.
Also, the United States is not parading around with his head on a platter. In fact, we did quite the opposite. We disposed of his body in accordance with Islamic law and refused to reveal the photos of his gruesome remains.
You are partially correct. Islamic law states that the body must be buried within 24 hours of death, preferably on land, unless he or she dies at sea. They stayed in accordance with the 24 hours post mortem burial, but buried him at sea because it would have been nearly impossible to do otherwise. They would've been hard-pressed to find a nation willing to take his remains.
I hear they didn't bury him on land cause they didn't want people making a shrine for him or something...
That's what he said - they didn't want to make something for his followers to gather around.
Personally, I think the fact that the US tried to be respectful of Islamic law when they had no obligation to is commendable, and certainly raised my view of the US government and military.
Even if they were (which I doubt), it would just create a pilgrimage for his followers. For the world's safety, the sea burial was the best decision.
People on this site have become downvote faggots. Don't worry about it.
Death is not sacred if you did not treat life as sacred when you were alive.
*osama
inb4 someone uses the false MLK quote
I agreed with you up until the end. Death is not sacred, it is a curse. Life is sacred.
Death isn't a curse, its a gift so that others can live. And if its not that, than its something else we can't understand.
Is it a gift? From whom did it come?
It's a metaphor, not a physical gift hurrdurrr I'm just saying it's something that happens so that other people can experience the gift of life. Equilibrium, bro.
The argument became invalid at the hurrdurr.
I meant it's sacred from like people celebrating... Like a sacred topic for conversation...i don't know how much sense that makes, but it makes sense to me...
spell his name correctly if you want to be taken seriously. maybe then you'll be right.
Yea it was a typo, I'm on my ipod and it wouldn't let me change it....
The real MLK quote
Are we seeking power for power’s sake? Or are we seeking to make the world and our nation better places to live. If we seek the latter, violence can never provide the answer. The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Glad you weren't around after World War 2 to say "We should not rejoice in the death of Hitler."
This may well kill my average score (not that it was too good anyways) but I do believe it needs to be said...
I feel indifferent about this one. Yeah, it is someone dying and it's not good to want someone to be dead, but this guy is responsible for the deaths of a LOT of people. I'm not having a party or anything, but I'm definitely not going to be upset about it.
Not only did he kill 3,000+ people, but he was the main "resource" of getting bombs and money. I'm glad hes dead. He was the reason my family members died. He killed his own people, and that was a shame.
I think your death loses any sense of sacredness when during your life you slaughtered thousands.
So misinformed
How so?
The message behind his death is a powerful one that you can rejoice in. A man who did evil won't do evil anymore. However, I believe that to celebrate a death and rejoice that he will burn in hell isn't right. He was no doubt a cruel and bad person, but to rejoice like that over his death is what I view as cruel. It's one thing to rejoice his death and another thing to rejoice that the evil he has done is over.
What's to celebrate?
Okay Osama is dead, but its not like the Al Queda is gone. There are still thousands of extremists out there worst than Osama, who are still actively plotting and funding terrorist agendas. And most people don't even know the full story behind his life. He started out working for the CIA, for this country! We basically trained him to do what he did. Osama ultimately got what he wanted, he stated that the whole point of 9/11 was to destroy America's economy and therefore our power. Well look at us now after 9/11 we're in several wars, in trillions of dollars of debt and do you know that a trillion dollars and ten years have been spent just to kill one man?! And this is what we celebrate?
We should be focusing on demanding for troops to be sent home and to stop interjecting in every single crisis that shows up on the planet. That would be something to celebrate. The fight for human rights and domestic stability are the only 'sacred' things in this circumstance.
Too true!
Well, you're right in principle (which is why I gave you the YYA) but not in practice. You're saying that the goal is to minimize death, and although that it usually the case when it comes to issues of killing, it makes sense to kill 1 person to prevent the death of thousands more.
For example, you would agree that it'd be alright to kill one person to save millions, right? I know that's not the same thing but it relates.
However,
for your ideals.
No, because I honestly kind of agree he should have been killed... Because its not really possible to serve 3000 odd life sentences, but I do think that no person (or group of people) have the right to take anothers life (yea my beliefs are fairly contradictory.) i do however, believe he should have gotten a trial and I certainly don't think anyone should party over the death of a human being
Yeah. Exactly. That's lovely thinking, and it makes you a good person, but it doesn't work in the real word. It's not practical and it's impossible.
Realism vs. Idealism. Chose your weapon.
Yea maybe you're right, I am idealistic, but I still don't know how people can celebrate the death of a human being, no matter how bad they are. I mean be happy sure (I'm not really though because I think his death will provoke al quada) but partying over the death of someone is morally wrong.
respect.
I agree.
I don't believe we should celebrate his death. I believe we should celebrate the fact that we can move on to better things.
How exactly has the government celebrated?
How is the government celebrating publicly? Yes, they're happy they've finally stopped a terrorist who killed thousands. But as DanielJames said, the US government chose NOT to display Osama.
How SHOULD people be acting? The man is responsible for the death of thousands. I'm happy he's dead. I think that people are actually acting a lot better than they could be, which actually says a lot about the tolerance of Americans.
Also, it's not just Americans who are celebrating. There was an uproar of celebration throughout the world when he was killed.
If you're American then you lost a lot. If not, well, I dunno... I'm Canadian. Our economy is affected by the American economy, and there are hundreds of Canadian soldiers fighting right now. My best friend is going over seas next year. We've all lost something, one way or another. Terrorism hurts everyone.
Agreed and most of the young people celebrating his death in Times Square probably don't know why they're celebrating. You go up and ask them, "Why are you celebrating?" "Well Osama's dead.." "Well why did he get killed?" "9/11 of course." They probably don't know anything else other than what happened in 9/11.
Death is a sacred thing no matter who is dying. Sure he killed +3,000 people and you have a right to be happy that he's dead. But don't celebrate over a death, and especially if you're a Catholic Christian. That's a direct violation of the 5th Commandment to be celebrating so publicly over that.
Nothing is sacred.
For all the people he killed and families he has destroyed... I think his death is fine to celebrate. At least some hurt ones who have suffered because of him will feel alright knowing the person who has caused them soo much pain finally won't hurt others.
But Him dying won't bring back their loved ones, if we celebrate his death, essentially aren't we at least close to being as bad as him? I think it certainly brings us closer...
I agree.I understand that someone had to put a stop to osama's terrorism, but death probably wasn't the best answer.
What was the best answer then?
Obviously a fair trial, in which he would get a chance to speek and give words of encouragement to other terrorists, and make him more of a martyr in their eyes... That would have gone over well.
I think they did the right thing. Killed him, but decided not to display him.
I agree :)
LOL wow this is just... stupid.
Nice intelligent thought there
I shouldn't be glad a killer is dead? It's not like I'm having a party. And saying "death is sacred" is just stupid.
You can very well be, as am I. I was just saying that after the other comments, your comment looked a smidgen out of place.
That should have been your first comment. In order to be taken seriously, you can't simply say "wow...stupid," you need to articulate an argument.