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Racism: the belief that there are inherent differences in people's traits and capacities that are entirely due to their race. Why is this so horrible to believe? It makes sense: each race originates from a different part of the world, and there they evolved separatley from the others. Certain races could totally be more biologically advanced than the others, amirite?

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Cultural Evolution does not equal genetic evolution

One thing I like to point out to people is that racism isn't saying that there is a DIFFERENCE between races. That's obvious. Racism is giving preference rejection to a certain person because they belong to that race. It is also stating that something is good/bad because of racial influences.

For example:

My brother was talking about this Indian friend he had. I asked, "Dot or feathers?" and the person near us thought I was racist. This is not racist. It is just a fact that Native Americans can be identified more so with feathers, and Indians with their red dots. I didn't say they were bad-- or good-- but I just wanted to clarify.

Acknowledging differences in people because of their cultures isn't racist.

Am I making sense? I want to clarify to some people who often seem to be confused about what racism is...

@bluegoddess **preference OR rejection... Sorry.

Exactly! I was referring to an African American as "that black guy," and my friend thought it was racist. How is that racist? I'm merely pointing him out, not saying anything bad about him or his race.

BobTheLogs avatar BobTheLog Yeah You Are +4Reply

Racism generally promotes a feeling of superiority.

There's more genetic diversity within races than between them. Race isn't a meaningful indicator of biological differences between humans.

This is wrong because we didn't all develop in different parts of the world. Science has proven that all humans originated from the African continent then spread out. The differences in races are merely based on genes. Light skin and dark skin, brown hair and blonde hair, it's all genetic differences. This means that there is no true thing as race. Just cultures and genetics.

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@jukilo This is wrong because we didn't all develop in different parts of the world. Science has proven that all humans...

yes, the africa thing is correct, but after that each race comes from a different part of the world. and the genes thing can be mental as well as physical

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@Favvkes yes, the africa thing is correct, but after that each race comes from a different part of the world. and the genes...

What you don't understand is that race is not real. People used to argue that whites were more advanced than blacks but this isn't true. Maybe a CULTURE became more advanced than another, such as ancient India vs Bushmen, but the thought that one "race" is more biologically advanced than another isn't true because if you raised a child of any ethnicity in say, an Asian culture, they would act like an Asian. If there were truly "races" as people think of them, it would be as if we were different species and couldn't breed together. The difference between an African and an Irish person is as different as an Irish person and an Italian. Do you see what I'm saying?

jukilos avatar jukilo No Way +4Reply
@jukilo What you don't understand is that race is not real. People used to argue that whites were more advanced than blacks...

no i really don't. asians and irish people and africans LOOK different on top of their cultures being different. their genes and physicalities are very different, and therein lies the possibility that one race has inherent capabilities that the others defect

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@Favvkes no i really don't. asians and irish people and africans LOOK different on top of their cultures being different...

Yes, they look different, I wasn't saying they don't. I agree with you that recognizing a difference should not be considered racism, but you're also saying that some races could have advantages. Do you really think no scientist ever thought of this question? People used to do anything to prove that blacks were inferior to whites, but all arguments failed when actually tested. Scientists have done studies about this and have found that no one "race" has better capabilities than others. People are people, appearance is the only difference, there's science behind it.

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@jukilo Yes, they look different, I wasn't saying they don't. I agree with you that recognizing a difference should not be...

I knew that many scientists have looked into the theory. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sc..._racism&amp;gtlot of there work was fabricated/biased, but a lot of it was also valid

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@Favvkes I knew that many scientists have looked into the theory. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sc..._racism&amp;gtlot of...

That didn't help your cause because that page doesn't exist anymore. Anyways your argument is pretty much the main fallacy of racism and what people have been saying for a long time. I know I've said this before but race ISN'T REAL. There are so many genetic mixes saying that Asians and African Americans are different races is like saying that people with blue eyes and green eyes are different races. Do you not understand
that? You said that there were valid arguments, could I hear some?

@jukilo That didn't help your cause because that page doesn't exist anymore. Anyways your argument is pretty much the main...

Races, or a better word would be ethnicities, are just like breeds. We're all the same species; homo sapiens; so we can mate with each other. That's a scientific fact. Humans are animals. I'm not saying specifically Blacks or Asians, but all people are animals. Each race has its own distinct look, but not all people of one race (ethnicity) look exactly the same. Just like all Chihuahuas look different. So you're right to say there's 1 human race. And you may be saying you can't judge people by their ethnicity or put a label on them. But the reality is that it is valid to use that label, because ethnic differences and advantages do exist(because when there's a difference, there's always an advantage or disadvantage... but there are exceptions to that rule as there is to any rule). racism is bad. we all agreed on that. but this isn't racism. it's anthropology. my shift key stopped working btw if you're wondering.

@I_did_it_in_a_tree Races, or a better word would be ethnicities, are just like breeds. We're all the same species; homo sapiens; so we...

I think you're attributing too much to cultural differences as biological. If you raised two children in the same culture yet they were both different ethnicities the only difference you would really get is how they look. This post isn't anthropology, it's the argument racists used years ago to justify racism. It's a theory that's been disproved. You could say that ancient China had advantage over tribes of Africa but it's not because they're Asian, it's because they had better technology. Tribes of Africa didn't have that advanced technology because they didn't need it. Not because their race was less biologically advanced. And I apologize for spelling/gramatical errors now because I'm really tired and didn't feel like checking.

@jukilo I think you're attributing too much to cultural differences as biological. If you raised two children in the same...

No you dont understand what Im talking about. Think black people and track. Their bodies are better suited for it

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are 0Reply
@Favvkes No you dont understand what Im talking about. Think black people and track. Their bodies are better suited for it

I think you still have the idea in your head that there are definate races. You can't classify one group of people as being better for track because there are so many mixes. There is no one body type for African Americans. Most would look at me and say I'm white, but technically I'm part black and Native American, so am I really "white"? Can you really define a person as one race? No you can't. Therefore you can't say that one specific race is better at one thing or another.

@jukilo That didn't help your cause because that page doesn't exist anymore. Anyways your argument is pretty much the main...

then search scientific racism in wikipedia. ima do some more researcha and get back to you

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@Favvkes then search scientific racism in wikipedia. ima do some more researcha and get back to you

Alright...and scientific racism doesn't exist on Wikipedia anymore just so you know. At least that link doesn't work.

In this day and age, it is very unlikely that racist tendencies have any truth to any single person, especially since races are not seprarated the way they used to be (for the most part)

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@Wynaut In this day and age, it is very unlikely that racist tendencies have any truth to any single person, especially...

@1302770 (Wynaut): are you kidding me? the races are still separated a lot. ghettos, neighborhoods, schools, companies... people of one race like to stick together

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@Favvkes @1302770 (Wynaut): are you kidding me? the races are still separated a lot. ghettos, neighborhoods, schools...

Yes, they like to stick together, but I meant they aren't forced apart. I should have specified and I apologize.

I feel like the definition of racism has been changed.

Not really. I suppose the only difference of having darker skin is that the sun doesn't do as much damage as quickly? If that's how it works, not totally sure.

@Liloquand Not really. I suppose the only difference of having darker skin is that the sun doesn't do as much damage as...

people with dark skin look a lot different than white people. if you made a black person have white skin, it wouldn't look normal. they have different shaped heads, lips, etc. the differences aren't just skin deep

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@Favvkes people with dark skin look a lot different than white people. if you made a black person have white skin, it...

True, I never thought about the features. But those features don't really have an advantage over features from another race, they are just different. I don't know why that is, but I don't think it's any better than having thinner lips etc.

@Liloquand True, I never thought about the features. But those features don't really have an advantage over features from...

im not saying those features are advantageous. i'm saying if those features are different, then their minds are too, which would have a bigger impact. plus, physical features has a pretty advantageous impact when it comes to sports

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are 0Reply

I hesitantly agree with most of this post, in that different races tend to have different traits and capacities associated with them. For example, like you said above, African-Americans tend to be faster and more athletic.
That being said, I agree with @1302772 (BlueGoddess) when she said that acknowledging such differences without regard to superiority is not racist. And I feel like this relates to a post I saw a while back on amirite that said that people should be able to identify people by race without being considered racist. To me, racism is being judged not by the content of one's character but by their skin color instead, and the things that I have described above don't fall under this category to me.

@Avery I hesitantly agree with most of this post, in that different races tend to have different traits and capacities...

i don't really know if i'm racist in a bad way. The majority of the people who live in the ghetto in my city are black, so when I see a black person, i immediately assume they are trash. however, when i see a black person with an upstanding job, i immediately accept them as just as good as any other white person with the same job. it's kind of like the black person has to prove to me that they're not like the majority, and then they're equal.

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@Favvkes thats just a personal opinion though, not what i'm trying to say in my post

In my humble opinion, that is bordering on harmful racism. When you form your opinion about somebody solely based on their skin color before you even speak a word to them...to me, that's judging them not based on the content of their character but on the color of their skin and is therefore harmfully discriminatory based on race.
I don't think it's necessarily bad to go from personal experience, but to completely make up your mind about someone based only on their race is going a little far for me. Other readily observable things like dress, dialect, etc. give a better representation of how somebody is than the color of skin that they were born with.

He is just saying that if you say something that is neither positive nor negative about a race, it's not racist, and it's somewhat annoying when someone says you are racist for saying it. Biologically, everyone is a little different. But different races have their advancements. Asians have better brain functions probably because ancient Asian culture has focused on education a lot (just a guess).

@Favvkes yes! exactly! you understand me, debenni

No, you said it WAS racism if it was neither positive nor negative. You don't even understand yourself. That's sad.

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@No, you said it WAS racism if it was neither positive nor negative. You don't even understand yourself. That's sad.

you are right. debenni misinterpretted my post. at least the first two sentences of her comment. what really resonated with me was what she said at the end of her comment. however, i still completely agree with everything debenni said.

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I feel like students are taught in school to have an automatic repulsion to racism without even considering it scientifically. Just because it got way beyond ethicality and rationality in the 1700s-1960s does not mean it is totally bunk.

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@Favvkes I feel like students are taught in school to have an automatic repulsion to racism without even considering it...

Kay, so let's say it's fine to assume a certain race to be biologically less than another.

When did that mean it was okay to TREAT them like they were less than others. That's the part of rascism they teach in school to be repulsive. And quite frankly, I prefer it that way.

Also, just because a race is biologically less advanced than another, it doesn't mean it's less of a race.

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@Kay, so let's say it's fine to assume a certain race to be biologically less than another. When did that mean...

(TeaBagger.): Why would they be LESS advanced? Every race is the same age, it's just different evolution. Would you say a Labrador is "more advanced" than a Golden Retriever or another dog? Does it mean other dogs aren't dogs?

@TristantheGreat (TeaBagger.): Why would they be LESS advanced? Every race is the same age, it's just different evolution. Would you...

Clearly you can't read my post properly. I never said I THOUGHT a race was less advanced, I said it in a "K lets assume so since that's what you think and I'm trying to get on your level" type of way to fvvkesluvr.

Read my stuff carefully before you get your panties up in a knot and make an analogy with dogs.

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@TristantheGreat (TeaBagger.): Why would they be LESS advanced? Every race is the same age, it's just different evolution. Would you...

They are the same species, but Asians are to Caucasians as Labradors are to Poodles. Where the breed or race evolved must have had a bigger impact than color and hair texture.

@TristantheGreat (TeaBagger.): Why would they be LESS advanced? Every race is the same age, it's just different evolution. Would you...

i would say that labradors and golden retrievers have different abilities based on their genes, yes. and where in my post did i ever say that certain races weren't human just because they may be less advanced psychotically?

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@Changing skin color isn't evolution or advancement.

i already explained this in another one of my comments. there are more differences in the physical appearance of balck and white people than just skin color. for example, big lips

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are 0Reply
@Kay, so let's say it's fine to assume a certain race to be biologically less than another. When did that mean...

(TeaBagger.): you're right, of course, but i'm talking about just having the racist beliefs. A lot of people overreact and get easily offended by racist comments that have a lot of truth to them

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are -6Reply
@Favvkes (TeaBagger.): you're right, of course, but i'm talking about just having the racist beliefs. A lot of people...

For example, I mentioned to my friend the other day how ghettos and sports mostly consist of black people, and she autimatically denied it on the basis that it was racist

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are +9Reply
@Favvkes For example, I mentioned to my friend the other day how ghettos and sports mostly consist of black people, and she...

Well, the African Americans didn't have many rights up until around 50 years ago, so it makes sense that there are a lot of poor blacks.

@Favvkes For example, I mentioned to my friend the other day how ghettos and sports mostly consist of black people, and she...

Ghettoes do not mostly contain black people. There are many that have a Latino majority. So I would deny that claim. And the only sport I know dominated by blacks are basketball and and track. Not sports as a whole. I think your friend was right.

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@Ghettoes do not mostly contain black people. There are many that have a Latino majority. So I would deny that...

I was talking about track at the time and the ghetto in my city, for which i am right

Favvkess avatar Favvkes Yeah You Are +3Reply
@Favvkes I was talking about track at the time and the ghetto in my city, for which i am right

There was recently a study that said black people had lower IQ's than other races but more physicley advanced evolution wise. Google it people if you don't belive me, I'm not racist.

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@Favvkes I was talking about track at the time and the ghetto in my city, for which i am right

Well if you said sports instead of track like you initially stated in your comment, then I can see why she was offended.

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