No it doesn't. I know several gay people and just because I don't support their lifestyle that doesn't mean I hate them. We just have different views on things. Nothing more than that.
There's such a thing as being indifferent. Some people don't want to get into the legal part of it (marriage rights). That may be be for religious reasons, indecisiveness, or apathy, etc. They may still be against hate crimes, homophobia, and things of that nature which are clearly heinous.
As a Christian I am taught to " hate the sin, love the sinner" so just because I don't believe that gay people should get married, I don't hate them as people
But are you willing to let them choose whether or not to marry? Even if you believe it's a sin, it's not hurting anyone.
I don't think it's fair to decide what is wrong or right if it doesn't harm anyone. God can tell us when we're dead, but we can't really know what he/she/it wants.
I'm a conservative Christian, and I completely agree with this post. I do not approve of gay/homosexual lifestyles. BUT I do not hate them as human beings, at all.
"Hey! I'm Pug!"
"Hey! I'm Rex... I'm gay!"
"Oh, cool! I like and respect you, but I don't approve of your lifestyle, and I don't believe you should be allowed the human right to marry, like I have. Guess you'll just have to live without it, even though it doesn't affect me in any way. Sorry! But don't worry, it's all okay, and you can't call me a homophobic douche... because I don't hate you."
Sure, you can like them as a person, but if you're against their political agenda, you're against their political agenda. If you don't support gay people, you don't like them as a person.
Well I personally assumed that by 'supporting gay people' the OP meant advocating their rights in terms of social tradition.
Though I personally have no quarrel with gay marriage, I can certainly understand the point of view that does not have problems with gay people themselves, but wants them to not use the term marriage for their partnerships.
Then I guess you may not be the best person to have this argument with, but if you can accept that homosexuality is natural and that there isn't anything wrong with gay people, why shouldn't they get married?
I'm probably one of the worst people to have this argument with haha. I just think that everyone should be able to do everything everyone else can do, and it's just silly that anyone is arguing about it.
I think in a few decades, people will be looking back wondering how people were so insensitive to gay peoples' rights. Basically the way we do now about the whole civil rights movement...History sure does repeat itself.
But to try to answer your question, from a point of view that is not my own, : Marriage is defined as a social institution where a man and a woman come together as man and wife in mutual harmony. I guess that's why people disapprove of gays using the term 'marriage'.
If homosexuality has no negative effect on anybody whatsoever, why would you not support it? Simply "not liking" it is not a sufficient answer in the slightest, since "liking" something is completely and entirely subjective.
"I disagree with homosexuality, and I have reasons for it."
Thanks for the response! :) While you had many other interesting and highly contraversial things to say, you haven't exactly answered my question directly. In fact, this quote shows that you didn't get anywhere close, and only changes my original question slightly, although, still asking the same thing. Now that you have admitted to disagreeing with homosexuality, the question would now be put into slightly different terms: "If homosexuality hasn't even the slightest effect on the well being of any person whatsoever (excluding their personal bias of why THEY think it's wrong), it begs the question of 'why on earth would one not support it in the first place?' " *it should be noted that disagreeing because you think it's "gross" (or of-the-like) is not only an inherently subjective term but a complete non-sequidor.
I love how both these posts are the same concept, yet one is negative and one is positive. If you agreed with this post, then you should agree with the other post that I posted.
What's even more sad, I posted this and it was meant to be a troll post, and it got a positive score. then I posted the other post to see if it would have similar results, and it didn't.
This has been posted like fifty times before.
Also, I just want to add that homophobia isn't just believing that homosexual individuals are inferior to heterosexual individuals, but also that same-sex couples are inferior to opposite-sex couples. So if you believe that there are legal rights and legislation that should not be available to same-sex couples, that is homophobia.
Also, there is no "gay lifestyle" - that's a load of crap that even most anti-gay activists have abandoned - the idea that being homosexual means you lead a distinctly different life on the basis of sexuality, or that same-sex couples want distinctly different things for their lives, for their family, for their kids, than opposite-sex couples is just bullshit.
When you say you don't support them, does that mean you accept them but don't agree with their lifestyles, or you're against gay rights and don't accept them?
No, I do support gay rights, my cousin is gay. That's just my interpretation of the post. As far as crime goes, if someone has drugs or something like that, I can still like the person. A murderer is someone I don't think I could ever like.
Staying 10 feet away from homosexuals would suggest homophobia which the OP is clearly trying to separate from not supporting homosexuals, otherwise known as being indifferent of their lifestyles. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean that you oppose it.
Thank you for putting into words exactly what I couldn't. Props. _^
No it doesn't. I know several gay people and just because I don't support their lifestyle that doesn't mean I hate them. We just have different views on things. Nothing more than that.
There's such a thing as being indifferent. Some people don't want to get into the legal part of it (marriage rights). That may be be for religious reasons, indecisiveness, or apathy, etc. They may still be against hate crimes, homophobia, and things of that nature which are clearly heinous.
if you accept them, why would you try to deny them their rights?
Marriage is not a right. Nobody is trying to deny homosexuals their unalienable rights (of which marriage is not one).
Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are, though.
As a Christian I am taught to " hate the sin, love the sinner" so just because I don't believe that gay people should get married, I don't hate them as people
But are you willing to let them choose whether or not to marry? Even if you believe it's a sin, it's not hurting anyone.
I don't think it's fair to decide what is wrong or right if it doesn't harm anyone. God can tell us when we're dead, but we can't really know what he/she/it wants.
It just makes you a dick.
I'm a conservative Christian, and I completely agree with this post. I do not approve of gay/homosexual lifestyles. BUT I do not hate them as human beings, at all.
"Hey! I'm Pug!"
"Hey! I'm Rex... I'm gay!"
"Oh, cool! I like and respect you, but I don't approve of your lifestyle, and I don't believe you should be allowed the human right to marry, like I have. Guess you'll just have to live without it, even though it doesn't affect me in any way. Sorry! But don't worry, it's all okay, and you can't call me a homophobic douche... because I don't hate you."
People still like me when I tell them that I'm a conservative Christian, and they don't approve of my life style.
If you liked them, then why on earth wouldn't you support them?
I can like people from an opposing political party but not support their political agenda..
Sure, you can like them as a person, but if you're against their political agenda, you're against their political agenda. If you don't support gay people, you don't like them as a person.
Well I personally assumed that by 'supporting gay people' the OP meant advocating their rights in terms of social tradition.
Though I personally have no quarrel with gay marriage, I can certainly understand the point of view that does not have problems with gay people themselves, but wants them to not use the term marriage for their partnerships.
It still works either way.
Then I guess you may not be the best person to have this argument with, but if you can accept that homosexuality is natural and that there isn't anything wrong with gay people, why shouldn't they get married?
I'm probably one of the worst people to have this argument with haha. I just think that everyone should be able to do everything everyone else can do, and it's just silly that anyone is arguing about it.
I think in a few decades, people will be looking back wondering how people were so insensitive to gay peoples' rights. Basically the way we do now about the whole civil rights movement...History sure does repeat itself.
But to try to answer your question, from a point of view that is not my own, : Marriage is defined as a social institution where a man and a woman come together as man and wife in mutual harmony. I guess that's why people disapprove of gays using the term 'marriage'.
If homosexuality has no negative effect on anybody whatsoever, why would you not support it? Simply "not liking" it is not a sufficient answer in the slightest, since "liking" something is completely and entirely subjective.
That was my anon comment. I'd love for this to get addressed with an honest answer.
"I disagree with homosexuality, and I have reasons for it."
Thanks for the response! :) While you had many other interesting and highly contraversial things to say, you haven't exactly answered my question directly. In fact, this quote shows that you didn't get anywhere close, and only changes my original question slightly, although, still asking the same thing. Now that you have admitted to disagreeing with homosexuality, the question would now be put into slightly different terms: "If homosexuality hasn't even the slightest effect on the well being of any person whatsoever (excluding their personal bias of why THEY think it's wrong), it begs the question of 'why on earth would one not support it in the first place?' " *it should be noted that disagreeing because you think it's "gross" (or of-the-like) is not only an inherently subjective term but a complete non-sequidor.
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I love how both these posts are the same concept, yet one is negative and one is positive. If you agreed with this post, then you should agree with the other post that I posted.
What's even more sad, I posted this and it was meant to be a troll post, and it got a positive score. then I posted the other post to see if it would have similar results, and it didn't.
This has been posted like fifty times before.
Also, I just want to add that homophobia isn't just believing that homosexual individuals are inferior to heterosexual individuals, but also that same-sex couples are inferior to opposite-sex couples. So if you believe that there are legal rights and legislation that should not be available to same-sex couples, that is homophobia.
Also, there is no "gay lifestyle" - that's a load of crap that even most anti-gay activists have abandoned - the idea that being homosexual means you lead a distinctly different life on the basis of sexuality, or that same-sex couples want distinctly different things for their lives, for their family, for their kids, than opposite-sex couples is just bullshit.
When you say you don't support them, does that mean you accept them but don't agree with their lifestyles, or you're against gay rights and don't accept them?
I think most of us are the former. I don't think changing gay right will do anything to make people change their lifestyle, in any case.
People are born with their sexual orientation, saying you "don't support" gays is like saying you "don't support" blonds.
Replace gays with blacks and homophobe with racist and then see if you still agree.
Yes it does.
I think that the post is saying that they don't dislike gays, they don't like what being gay entails (same gender relationships).
So you don't mind murderers but you hate when people kill someone.
No, I do support gay rights, my cousin is gay. That's just my interpretation of the post. As far as crime goes, if someone has drugs or something like that, I can still like the person. A murderer is someone I don't think I could ever like.
No, I'm saying it doesn't make sense to hate the fact that they're gay and not give them equal rights, while saying you don't dislike them.
Yeah of COURSE it doesnt you sorry excuse for a human
It's pretty much the same thing as "You don't have to be gay to support gay rights."
The concept, not the actual saying.
Thank God they can't marry. That would be ridiculous.
What other reason could you have not to support them? Voices from your head told you to keep at least 10 feet away from homosexuals at all times?
Staying 10 feet away from homosexuals would suggest homophobia which the OP is clearly trying to separate from not supporting homosexuals, otherwise known as being indifferent of their lifestyles. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean that you oppose it.
You either don't have a problem with them or you do, there is no in between in that area.
That is true, but when talking about marriage there is such a thing as being indifferent, meaning you choose not to rally for or against it.