Jesus and Muhammad are in records?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Not official birth records, death records, dentist records, etc. The "records" you speak of are as official as a book of nursery rhymes.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What about Bahá'u'lláh (12 November 1817 – 29 May 1892)?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

actually Roman trial records for Jesus, where he actually said "I am who you say I am", obviously not in English though. And Muhammad's death is recorded as June 8, 632, where he died of high fever at age 63.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings." These are the facts. Edit: I myself don't doubt Jesus' existence, he probably did, I'm just saying there are know official records to support it. Now, concerning Mohammad, I don't really know much about the man so I will get back to you when I find out.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

not sure if trolling or just stupid

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ditto

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I creeped on your profile and obviously you haven't read the new testament as carefully as you have read the old...not really trolling, just selecting small selections of text from a 1500 page manuscript written by many different people 2000 years ago and trying to surprise the average person that it doesn't line up perfectly. inb4 runon sentence

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Actually, the records of Pontius Pilate killing Jesus do exist? And where did the quote come from? You put quotations around a huge paragraph for no reason it seems. And considering you spelled "no" and "Muhammad" wrong, I'm taking everything you say with a grain of salt, or less.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I am quoting this site: http://nobeliefs.com/exist.htm which I presume to be an atheist one. But I suggest reading the Wikipedia pages "Historical Jesus" and "Jesus Myth Theory." No where in those articles will you find mention of historical records. How about YOU cite a source about your alleged records. A simple google search makes it clear that these records simply don't exist. As for the typo, let's please not nitpick. It's not like I don't the difference between "know" and "no," it was a simple mistake.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

OK so you used "nobeliefs.com" and wikipedia to prove to me that records about Jesus doesn't exist? I'm sorry, I have to do this real quick... http://myfacewhen.com/58/

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The Jesus myth theory page cites 133 notes and DOZENS of published books that you would consider factual. You on the other hand, have not cited anything regarding the "records" of the Crucifixion. If you doubt anything in a Wikipedia article to be false simply go to the cited source and find the information yourself for fuck's sake.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Okay, I can now tell you after briefly researching Muhammad that there are also no official records of his life, either. All evidence for his existence are also told in posthumously written accounts based on oral traditions.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

where are you getting your information from? i saw that you quoted something, but if it's from, say, atheist.com then it's probably not very credible.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Are you joking? I'm Christian, but there's so much more evidence that Muhammad exists rather than Jesus? He led the wars of Islam! It's the logical ones that believe Jesus and Muhammad weren't Messiahs. It's the faithful that believe Jesus and Muhammad were. It's the stupid the believe they didn't even exist.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Its also weird that it was found out on the sites where many of these Messiah-like figures saw an angel (Usually named Gabriel) or god or something else there were old traces of marijuana guessed to have been smoked...on the day these "Messiah's" saw these divine entities. Funny eh?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well that doesn't work, unless it was laced with something else. Cannabis alone doesn't cause hallucinations.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No idea if there was any thing specific in them, I just read it in some archaeology article and checked on the internet and sure enough there was talk of this. I believe that all these Messiah-like figures were full of BS along with every religion but I don't want to say more since its easy to insults people's religions and start an argument.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

People called bullshit back then too.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

For example, the Crucifixion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

not if the baby grew up & started performing miracles, we wouldn't :]

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I found some grammatical errors on here, I've fixed it: It's convenient that all Messiah-like figures came well before recordable history. I mean, in today's society, if a teenage girl claimed that a winged person came to her and told her she was going to give birth to a prophet, we would all call bullshit, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Case in point: Joseph Smith.

by Anonymous 12 years ago