Guns? Would they be covered under the "no technology" thing? I mean, obviously it's technology, but it's all just (pretty much) manually moved metal and gunpowder, nothing electric or computer based.
That's because in order for the Cruciatus Curse to work properly, you need to be sadistic. You can't just hate somebody for a good reason, such as murdering a loved one. You have to ENJOY causing them pain.
Harry has used the Cruciatus Curse twice. both on death eaters, one was successful...so he should have two life sentences in azkaban but he's harry potter so they let it slide
Yes on Bogrod and Travers
But it seems like the Imperius Curse is the lesser of the three and not as punishable or bad because many wizards use it if they have to
like Harry on Bogrod and Travers, Kingsley on Marietta, etc
I thought Kingsley just Confunded Marrieta? Not that it matters, but I think Dumbledore would have been a bit mad if Kingsley used an Unforgivable in front of him.
Nope i was wrong...he modified her memory
Dumbledore: "He [Kingsley] was remarkably quick on the uptake, modifying Miss edgecombe's memory like that while everyone was looking the other way-thank him for me, won't you, Minerva?"
Also, the Ministry had been taken over, so who's going to arrest him? Some Death Eaters? Oh no! Now that he's done some Unforgiveables, he better try to keep away from those guys!
Yes because voldemort didn't have horcruxes or anything, right... And when all the horcruxes were gone, Voldemort died anyways, due to his ignorance, so Harry never needed to use it.
That was purely by chance. If Harry hadn't accidentally said Voldemort's name, the Snatchers would never have caught him and brought him to Malfoy Manor, so Harry would never have overpowered Draco and won the Elder Wand's allegiance. So during Harry and Voldemort's final duel, it would have been wizard versus wizard without the Elder Wand's allegiance even making a difference. Voldemort said he performed his usual level of magic with it when it belonged to Harry, so it would have been ordinary Voldemort versus ordinary Harry, meaning the worst that could have happened would have been Voldemort being disarmed, so Harry would still have to finish him off.
Well yeah you're right about that. But since Harry disarmed Draco and later on knew that he's the true master of the Elder Wand, he knew that he didn't have to use it. But if Harry never met Draco, and Draco was still the true master, then in that case Harry would've had to use the killing curse. But since all that happened, he knew that he didn't have to use it. Anyways, in both ways, Harry still had to wait until all of the horcruxes were destroyed, so I still don't see how using Avada Kedavra would've made "his life easier" as this post says.
After all of the horcruxes had been destroyed, Avada Kedavra would have been a quick and easy way to kill Voldemort. That would make Harry's life easier because he wouldn't have to test his skill against Voldemort. He'd just have to either disarm him or catch him off guard.
LOL no it wouldn't. After about like, Idk, 30 minutes or something since the last horcrux (Nagini) was destroyed, Voldemort died. And no, using the killing curse wouldn't have been a quicker and easier way to kill Voldemort, it would've probably made things harder and more complicated. Still, my point is that I disagree with this post that no it wouldn't have made his life easier because he can't really destroy horcruxes by the killing curse, so.... And what you said just implied that it would've made it like 5 minutes quicker, that's it.
How would it NOT have made killing Voldemort easier? It's the KILLING curse. That's what it does. It kills people. Without his horcruxes, Voldemort's as mortal as anybody else.
It wouldn't have made killing Voldemort easier because Voldemort isnt't going to just stand there while Harry says the curse, plus Voldemort also wanted to kill Harry, so they would've both tried to kill each other at the same time, so how on Earth would've that worked? It was more efficient for the curse to rebound. Please, I'm sure J.K Rowling knew what she was doing
You're only looking at the final confrontation. But if he would have just killed the death eaters every time they bothered him after the Ministry was taken over, his fights would have been over quicker and easier
Either way you look at it, when it came to the final confrontation, each of them only ended up casting one spell. Harry cast Expelliarmus and got the same result as if he had casted Avada Kedavra. I don't see how that's any more complicated.
Thank you! You're right. If he had casted Avada Kedavra instead, then the whole thing would've been a chaos, who knows what would've happened. So Harry did a smart thing by just disarming Voldemort.
No, he tried to use Crucio on (I think) Bellatrix. It was in the Ministry of Magic building and, when Harry cast it, Bellatrix fell to the floor for a moment before getting back up, laughing at him.
Something that bugged me was that Harry DID use the Imperious curse, something which, according to book 4, is automatically grounds for intense punishment. Of course, since he saved the world and all, I suppose that is forgivable. It would be kind of unfair for people to have been like "Thanks for saving us! Now go to jail for robbing a bank!"
Exactly. It ws sort of like, since he was, after all, the Boy Who Lived and did indeed save the entire Wizarding World from downfall, he got some diplomatic immunity.
Fine, then. How about a gun? Seriously, how badass would that final confrontation have been if Harry walked up and Tom was all
"Now, Potter, once and for all, you di-"
and then Harry pulled out a glock and was like
"Avada Kedavera, motherfucker BAM"
probably wouldn't work around magic
Guns? Would they be covered under the "no technology" thing? I mean, obviously it's technology, but it's all just (pretty much) manually moved metal and gunpowder, nothing electric or computer based.
I would just assume since you don't hear of any wizards/witches using guns ever
Hmm. That's a good point. I guess it's magic so it can detect things with a lot more sensitivity than anything we made could.
What do you mean "we". Are you saying you're a muggle!!??!!
AND YOU KNOW OF MAGIC!?!? WHO HAS VIOLATED THE STATUTE OF SECRECYYYYY!?!
Kedavra*
You don't correct Mr. Right >:|
My bad mr kitty :\
:)
Lol, a glock. M1911's the way to go.
I would think that he hates Death Eaters and Voldemort though.
he also used it on one of the carrows when they spit in mcgonnagals face in the ravenclaw common room
It worked better on Carrow cuz it like knocked him back and unconscious
but on Bella it only knocked her down for a few seconds
That's because in order for the Cruciatus Curse to work properly, you need to be sadistic. You can't just hate somebody for a good reason, such as murdering a loved one. You have to ENJOY causing them pain.
But... isn't that one of the Unforgivable Curses? That's a life sentence in Azkaban!
Harry has used the Cruciatus Curse twice. both on death eaters, one was successful...so he should have two life sentences in azkaban but he's harry potter so they let it slide
He also used Imperio several times to control the goblin and death eater at Gringrotts
Yes on Bogrod and Travers
But it seems like the Imperius Curse is the lesser of the three and not as punishable or bad because many wizards use it if they have to
like Harry on Bogrod and Travers, Kingsley on Marietta, etc
I thought Kingsley just Confunded Marrieta? Not that it matters, but I think Dumbledore would have been a bit mad if Kingsley used an Unforgivable in front of him.
Nope i was wrong...he modified her memory
Dumbledore: "He [Kingsley] was remarkably quick on the uptake, modifying Miss edgecombe's memory like that while everyone was looking the other way-thank him for me, won't you, Minerva?"
Oh, that makes considerably more sense.
The times when Harry used the Unforgivable Curses were during the ruling of Voldemort, I believe. Maybe it was allowed as it was a time of war?
Also, the Ministry had been taken over, so who's going to arrest him? Some Death Eaters? Oh no! Now that he's done some Unforgiveables, he better try to keep away from those guys!
Didn't he say somewhere that he didn't want to be like Voldy?
He wouldn't have been able to kill Voldemort due to the fact that he had seven horcruxes.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this.
True, but then he'd have to deal with all the guilt/ punishment later, which wouldnt make for a happy ending.
Yes because voldemort didn't have horcruxes or anything, right... And when all the horcruxes were gone, Voldemort died anyways, due to his ignorance, so Harry never needed to use it.
That was purely by chance. If Harry hadn't accidentally said Voldemort's name, the Snatchers would never have caught him and brought him to Malfoy Manor, so Harry would never have overpowered Draco and won the Elder Wand's allegiance. So during Harry and Voldemort's final duel, it would have been wizard versus wizard without the Elder Wand's allegiance even making a difference. Voldemort said he performed his usual level of magic with it when it belonged to Harry, so it would have been ordinary Voldemort versus ordinary Harry, meaning the worst that could have happened would have been Voldemort being disarmed, so Harry would still have to finish him off.
Well yeah you're right about that. But since Harry disarmed Draco and later on knew that he's the true master of the Elder Wand, he knew that he didn't have to use it. But if Harry never met Draco, and Draco was still the true master, then in that case Harry would've had to use the killing curse. But since all that happened, he knew that he didn't have to use it. Anyways, in both ways, Harry still had to wait until all of the horcruxes were destroyed, so I still don't see how using Avada Kedavra would've made "his life easier" as this post says.
After all of the horcruxes had been destroyed, Avada Kedavra would have been a quick and easy way to kill Voldemort. That would make Harry's life easier because he wouldn't have to test his skill against Voldemort. He'd just have to either disarm him or catch him off guard.
LOL no it wouldn't. After about like, Idk, 30 minutes or something since the last horcrux (Nagini) was destroyed, Voldemort died. And no, using the killing curse wouldn't have been a quicker and easier way to kill Voldemort, it would've probably made things harder and more complicated. Still, my point is that I disagree with this post that no it wouldn't have made his life easier because he can't really destroy horcruxes by the killing curse, so.... And what you said just implied that it would've made it like 5 minutes quicker, that's it.
How would it NOT have made killing Voldemort easier? It's the KILLING curse. That's what it does. It kills people. Without his horcruxes, Voldemort's as mortal as anybody else.
It wouldn't have made killing Voldemort easier because Voldemort isnt't going to just stand there while Harry says the curse, plus Voldemort also wanted to kill Harry, so they would've both tried to kill each other at the same time, so how on Earth would've that worked? It was more efficient for the curse to rebound. Please, I'm sure J.K Rowling knew what she was doing
You're only looking at the final confrontation. But if he would have just killed the death eaters every time they bothered him after the Ministry was taken over, his fights would have been over quicker and easier
Either way you look at it, when it came to the final confrontation, each of them only ended up casting one spell. Harry cast Expelliarmus and got the same result as if he had casted Avada Kedavra. I don't see how that's any more complicated.
Thank you! You're right. If he had casted Avada Kedavra instead, then the whole thing would've been a chaos, who knows what would've happened. So Harry did a smart thing by just disarming Voldemort.
at what part did Harry try to use Avada Kedavra? oO
I'm pretty sure Harry never attempted used the killing curse on anyone, kinda goes against who he is
No, he tried to use Crucio on (I think) Bellatrix. It was in the Ministry of Magic building and, when Harry cast it, Bellatrix fell to the floor for a moment before getting back up, laughing at him.
Something that bugged me was that Harry DID use the Imperious curse, something which, according to book 4, is automatically grounds for intense punishment. Of course, since he saved the world and all, I suppose that is forgivable. It would be kind of unfair for people to have been like "Thanks for saving us! Now go to jail for robbing a bank!"
Exactly. It ws sort of like, since he was, after all, the Boy Who Lived and did indeed save the entire Wizarding World from downfall, he got some diplomatic immunity.
He's too noble for that.