+386 Consent is the presence of a Yes, not the absence of a No, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I have not consented this post!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sounds like my college orientation all over again.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

God I just seriously love the way you worded it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Someone influenced by alcohol/drugs does not count as consenting in the current laws (correct me if I'm wrong). But other than that, people really should say "no" if they don't want to have sex

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yes, you're correct - if a person isn't in normal state of mind (ie, if they are under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or a have a mental handicapp) it doesn't count as consenting.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It also doesn't count if they're dead. ...Just sayin', bro.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

When I wrote this post (I have a Microsoft Word page where I put post ideas, and come back to them later) it was because I was reading this thing about how there's different types of rape. Like, most people seem to think rape is only forced rape - that is, holding someone down and they're fighting back, and over powering them, but there are other types - sexual coercion and demand, pressure, making someone feel it is their 'duty' to have sex with someone else, sex as payment, etc. Like, intimidating someone into having sex, even if they aren't fighting you off, would still be rape. If the person can't say no to a sexual encounter without consequences, I dunno if that would really count as consent.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There was a Degrassi episode about this. One of the girls slept with a guy because she felt obligated to since he flew out just to see her, even though she didn't really want to, and she regretted it the next morning. Then again, there is a degrassi episode for everything.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's difficult sometimes, where to draw the line,because regret isn't the same thing as non-consent or forced-consent. Like, if a woman is really upset about something that happened to her, and goes to a bar, and has consentual sex with a random man (assuming they've both only had one drink and aren't effected by the alcohol) and then later regrets it, the man did nothing wrong. But, yeah, feeling "obliged" to have sex seems like a form of coersion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I didn't really explain it right. They dated in the past and had had sex before, so he just assumed that she would be fine with it, but she really wasn't and was just to passive/felt obligated to say anything. So she'd given consent for it before, just not for that specific time, which makes it fuzzy. Your post just made me think of it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah. I wanna add to anyone reading - giving consent for one sexual encounter doesn't equal consent forever, and a person always has the right to withdrawn consent, even if they have given it previously, even if you're in a long-term relationship or married to the person.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Recently they had a Degrassi episode in which a guy tried to rape his ex-girlfriend, saying "I won't make you do anything you haven't done before." Simon's comment below about consent once doesn't mean consent forever reminded me of that. So funny though-- there really is a Degrassi episode for everything.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Which characters? I haven't seen any of the new ones. I can't think of much they haven't done, except for maybe polygamy or bestiality. Other than that, they seem to have it covered.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Bianca was almost raped by some thug she used to date.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Poor Bianca. I don't like her because she's kinda a whore and Ali is one of my favorites, but she still doesn't deserve that.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And there are other situations where a person may agree to sex, but is in a situation where there would be negative consequences if they said no - like, forced consent. Like, let's say your boss is coming onto you, and your boss is a sleazebag, whom you wouldn't sleep with in normal circumstances, but if you reject him, you know your job is going to suffer. I would consider that some form of sexual abuse, since the person is in a situation where they aren't being held down and raped, and they always have the option of saying no, but the consequences of saying yes and the consequences of saying no in this situation aren't equally weighted.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

My friend went out with this guy, and said she wanted to take things slow, he agreed. They went on a date, he drove her to a secluded beach about 2 hours away, and said that if she wanted to go home she'd have to have sex with him, she said no... this went on for about an hour and she was scared and wanted to go home because it was getting dark (her phone was out of range as well so she couldn't call for help). So she finally agreed, she said it was so painful, because her body didn't want to have sex with him, and she cried the whole time. Most of the people she told said it wasn't rape because he didn't physically hold her down and force her, but I disagree.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No shit. "Hey baby wanna hook up?" "" "*sexes*"

by Anonymous 12 years ago