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It's bothersome that high schoolers are posting on their facebook "legalize marijuana", because even if they legalized marijuana tomorrow there would be no way in hell they would legalize it for minors. I guess they were all too high to figure that one out. amirite?

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Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

If someone wants marijuana to be legalized, it's usually because they want to use it, in which case they wouldn't want to wait. If someone wants gay marriage to be legalized, it's because they want equal rights, and they probably aren't even planning on using that right.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I know, I said "the only difference is the people who want it to be legalized would still be able to do it even if it wasn't legal". Key word being legally. If a pothead wants to smoke, they're going to. But if they want to do it legally, they can wait a few years to do it legally while still doing it illegaly.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

"I don't see the benefit to a teenager if it becomes legal for them in a few years."
I don't see the benefit to a homosexual they're not legal yet then either. See how that doesn't work? Besides, the BENEFIT goes far beyond one user smoking it. It's being addictive or not has nothing to do with this what that has to do with age. And no, I've met PLENTY of adults who buy drugs. Sense you don't know much about the highschool drugworld, I can tell you my friend S, J, B, her brother G, K, M and my brother's ex girlfriend smoke with their kids. Getting weed would be no more difficult than getting alcohol.

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My point is that people have every right to argue for change, even if it won't affect them right away.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I think that if two gay people really wanted to get married, they would be willing to wait for a few years.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

You just said if two people really wanted to get married legally they'd be able to wait a few years. Replace married legally with get high legally. They'd still be able to wait a few years if they wanted to do it legally. The same concept applies, the only difference is the people who want it to be legalized would still be able to do it even if it wasn't legal, assuming they are underage and they smoke.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I don't see the benefit to a teenager if it becomes legal for them in a few years. If marijuana is really as harmless and not addictive as people say, then they probably won't still be into it when they are old enough. I don't see how much easier it would be to get when it's legal (also, you no longer have parents to hide from), and it would be taxable and therefore more expensive (and you no longer have parents to steal from). There's not much benefit of legalization if you've been smoking illegally for years.
I don't know much about the high school underworld, but would drug dealers really make a living selling only to minors? I imagine marijuana would be harder to sell when half the market can get it at a local pharmacy.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I quit reading after marijuana is a drug used for temporary enjoyment and How does the benefit go far beyond one user smoking it? because there's a LOT more than just that, they wouldn't make it legal for "enjoyment" only and the benefit to it being legal would be an improved economy, which would improve EVERYONE's lives.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I don't see how you could say that marijuana is not a drug, or how smoking it will give you long-term benefits. Clearly you didn't actually stop reading at that point, so why did you point out that statement?
You know, instead of trying to make me feel stupid by not reading half of my comment, you could have just answered that in the first place. I don't see how a single drug becoming legal could help the economy enough to be worth it. I think if there was a way to make that much more money, then the government of all people would probably figure it out. I can only think of one possible reason for the government to sacrifice all that tax money and a greatly improved economy in order to make marijuana more difficult to obtain.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Did you really just say legalizing marijuana would make it more expensive? Really?

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

To be honest, I have no idea how much it costs now, but it makes sense that the government would put a tax on it to make it more expensive when it's legalized.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Yes but it's also illegal now which raises the price exponentionally. Growing marijuana is dirt cheap. But it's a very risky business for people to distribute and sell it. So of they're going to do it they're going to want a massive profit. Which is why it's pretty expensive now even though it's so cheap to manufacture. Legalizing it would remove all the risk and drive prices way down.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Why would prices go down? The supply won't change and the demand will only go up now that it's more convenient to get. If I'm selling legal marijuana, and people are willing to pay $100 per joint or whatever, why the hell would I sell it for less than that?

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

But the supply and demand don't dictate price with illegal industries. The cost of manufacture is what dictates it. And legalizing would cause the cost of manufacturing to plummet.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

No, supply and demand dictate price no matter what. If there's no demand, you have to lower the prices or people won't buy it. If there's high demand, you can raise the prices because they have no choice.
If it's difficult to manufacture, you have to sell it at high prices, but that doesn't mean if it's easy to manufacture then you can't. It's not like anyone is going to say "Hey, these prices are the same as the ones I'm used to paying! I can't afford that!" The price might not go up, but it wouldn't go down by much.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Actually it would. Please look it up. Show me some links saying it would go up

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Where would I find links that tell me what would happen? It just doesn't make sense that dealers, selling to a large group of marijuana addicts who will pay high prices to buy it, would lower their prices.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Why the hell would the dealers be selling it? It would be being sold by legitimate companies. And it's next to impossible to become addicted to marijuana

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

I meant the people selling marijuana. I didn't know the word "dealer" automatically meant illegal.
Whether they're addicted or not, they want marijuana, and they've been paying $X for it in the past, and will probably still pay that much when it's legal.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

i'll give you a historical example. do you know how much the average beer cost during prohibition? A LOT MORE than it does now.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

You can't grow alcohol. It would be much harder to obtain if it was illegal, therefore there would be less supply, and prices go up. Since marijuana is so cheap to grow, you can produce it in much larger quantities, and you could have all the supply you need whether it's legal or not.
Not only that, but according to some of the comments below there is much more competition in the illegal drug business, so the prices couldn't be too high because only the cheapest one would get the deal.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Actually you grow wheat which is what makes alcohol..... Then you only refine it a tiny bit do there's only a tiny manufacturing cost. The reason marijuana costs do much is the risk! Drug dealers make higher profits than just about anyone in the world. Remove the risk and the cost would go straight down.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

If it's happened before, then I can't really argue that the price doesn't go down, but it still doesn't make sense. Why would it go down? If I'm buying weed from you, it's not like you're going to tell me a long story about how hard it was to get and how you almost got caught, and I'm going to feel sorry for you and give you extra money.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Because only criminals are selling it. Whereas once it becomes legal any one will sell it. Driving prices down

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

And if you wanted to smoke weed legally, you'd be able to wait a few years for that too.

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Like I said, marriage is supposed to be a commitment that lasts your entire life, so waiting a few years is nothing if you really want to get married. Marijuana is a drug which people use for temporary enjoyment, and you might get bored of it by the time it's legal.
How does the benefit go "far beyond one user smoking it"? In what ways could a teenager benefit from the legalization of marijuana other than using it him/herself?
I don't remember saying that adults didn't buy drugs. In fact, that just reinforces my point; if adults stopped buying drugs illegally, then dealers would lose money, and some of them might go out of business or raise their prices. (Also, what's with the random letters?)
I don't know how difficult it is for a minor to get alcohol either, but I'm guessing that it's really easy. If marijuana's so easy to get illegally, then who cares if it's legalized?

@DanielJames Replace "legalize marijuana" with "legalize gay marriage" and you'll see why this is stupid.

Marriage is a ceremony between two people who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. A person will put much more thought into getting married than doing drugs. If two people don't still want to get married when they're 18, then they clearly weren't ready to spend the rest of their lives together. If they really love each other they will wait. If someone is addicted to a drug, or is being pressured by their friends to try it, then they aren't going to wait for several years and then do it.

'high' schoolers

Alcohol and cigarettes aren't legal for minors either, but it' still easy to get them. Legalizing pot would do the same thing, make it easier to get.

And it would lessen the penalty for being caught with it. It's no longer an illegal substance, it's just illegal for YOU to have.

@AtheisticMystic And it would lessen the penalty for being caught with it. It's no longer an illegal substance, it's just illegal...

When I made this comment I wasn't really bashing the idea of legalizing marijuana. Merely, bashing how overly confident people are in there views. Regardless, they could still be expelled from school for bringing it on to campus.

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@Sandrose140 When I made this comment I wasn't really bashing the idea of legalizing marijuana. Merely, bashing how overly...

Thats true. But I mean if the cops found you with it, it would be more of an "I'm gonna call your parents" thing than a "You're going to jail" thing.

@AtheisticMystic Thats true. But I mean if the cops found you with it, it would be more of an "I'm gonna call your parents" thing...

That's true.... I guess it just bothers me because all the people at my school who say that think they're sooooo cool because they're showing off to their friends or whatever. When they don't know all the repercussions of legalizing marijuana anyways, and how it probably won't change their daily life anyways.

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@AtheisticMystic What kind of repercussions?

Well if marijuana is easier to get, more teenagers are able to get there hands on it. And its seems to me like your pro marigjuan (just making an assumption) but I've seen marijuana ruin SO many lives that had such good potential. Also, marijuana is a gateway drug to other things like ecstasy (also basing it off what I've seen at my high school not just what I read off the internet) and even though there are a lot of up sides compared to cigarettes it doesn't mean that is in ANY WAY good for you.

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@Sandrose140 Well if marijuana is easier to get, more teenagers are able to get there hands on it. And its seems to me like your...

Honestly, I don't think it's very bad. I've never smoked, so I can't tell you the effects of it, really, but I know a ton of people that smoke regularly and they are normal. And I don't really agree with the gateway drug part. If someone is ever going to try hard drugs like ecstasy or cocaine, weed isn't going to influence them to do that, they'd do it regardless. I'm not denying that a lot of people that smoke move on to other drugs, I know that's true, but I don't think that the weed is to blame. So overall, yes, I'm pro-marijuana. People are going to smoke it anyway, no sense in punishing them for it, since it obviously isn't deterring anyone from doing it anyway.

@AtheisticMystic Honestly, I don't think it's very bad. I've never smoked, so I can't tell you the effects of it, really, but I know...

I agree with everything you said except for the last sentence. Just because someone's is going to do something regardless of the rules doesn't mean that it should be allowed. Yes, there are some legitimate reasons for legalizing it, but but I don't think that's one of them. That's like saying that if people are going to kill other people, we should just go ahead and make it legal. I know it's not the same thing, but it kind of is in a way.

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@AtheisticMystic And it would lessen the penalty for being caught with it. It's no longer an illegal substance, it's just illegal...

I'm glad you mostly agree with me, anyway! And my position has sort of changed. I have all the same views, but I have become a weedie since I made those comments. This is an old conversation. But now, as someone that knows about the effects of marijuana use on a high schooler's life, I can still say that it's harmless.

What always cracks me up is when these same kids are bragging about how much weed they smoke on Facebook when they're friends with their parents, teachers, and other adults. It's like they want to get caught.

Or maybe they are just concerned about the fairness of the whole situation... I haven't smoked weed but I think it should be legalized for people over 21. So.

ThymeAgains avatar ThymeAgain Yeah You Are +4Reply

Because clearly the only reason they'd want it legal is because they want to go buy some.

No, it's just the kids know that they're not gonna be minors forever.

Simons avatar Simon No Way 0Reply

I think that whether or not marijuana should be legal is very debatable and is actually an interesting argument. However, most (not all) of the arguments I hear on both sides are awful.

Arguments against it are filled with propaganda, "Marijuana is an extremely dangerous and addictive drug that causes major brain damage and other side effects." no, marijuana isn't nearly as harmful most illegal drugs and people who use it more than likely will not become physically addicted.

Arguments for it are filled with ignorance, "Come on, weed's harmless!", no, marijuana causes lung cancer just like tobacco cigarettes, it's less dangerous than most illegal drugs, but that doesn't mean it's harmless.

I have mixed feelings on it, but I disagree in some way with most people who talk about it.

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@Cpt_McMuffin I think that whether or not marijuana should be legal is very debatable and is actually an interesting argument...

It can cause lung cancer but it is much less likely to than cigarettes. Inhaling any smoke into your lungs is never good for you. But there are also ways to use marijuana without smoking it

@Cpt_McMuffin I think that whether or not marijuana should be legal is very debatable and is actually an interesting argument...

It's actually even more likely to cause lung cancer than tobacco, but that's mostly caused by the people using it and not the drug itself. A lot of them tend to hold the smoke in for longer before exhaling, exposing their lungs to the smoke for longer, making lung cancer more likely.

As for the ways people use it other than smoking, yes, those wouldn't have that effect.

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