+409 Disney shouldn't make a movie about a lesbian princess. That's a conversation that a lot of parents don't want to have with their kids at princess-loving age. amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, it doesn't have to be that complicated. At that age, there is no "sexual desire" or "male-female relations." It's just a simple "who likes who." You could just tell your kids, "some people like girls, and some people like boys, and some people like girls AND boys, and it doesn't matter who you like." There's no need to bring in the whole sex thing until later. Introducing the concept of gays and lesbians to your kid wouldn't corrupt them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wasn't even talking about sex. I don't think kids need to be told that. No, it probably won't corrupt them, it's just not age appropriate. Yes, they are very accepting, but again, a conversation about different sexualities is not age appropriate for a 5 year old.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was given 'that' conversation at 5 years old... "Sometimes, men love other men, and women love other women..." Not that hard to say.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Edit: It wasn't you who said kids are very accepting, so never mind that part.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just because it doesn't corrupt them doesn't mean you wanna have that conversation with them, or that they need to know about it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, if you really and truly thought that gay love and straight love are equal, and who you like is only a small part of who you are, and you really didn't mind gay marriage, then you would have no problem explaining that to your kids. There is nothing innapropriate about liking a boy or a girl.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There is when you're a todler. I wouldn't want my little pre schooler to have a boyfriend. I guess I just have a problem with love in general then lol sense I don't wanna explain it to my kids until their old enough to handle mature adult conversations. That's terrible logic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You've never seen a toddler go up to one of their friends and declare, "You're my boyfriend now!" It's totally harmless. Ferreal, saying some girls like girls is not an adult conversation. Your kids will very well understand the term "like" by preschool. I even had a pretend marriage with someone I liked in preschool.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just because it won't scar them doesn't mean Disney should to make a movie about it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ignore the word to. I don't know why it's there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, I never really said that I wanted Disney to make a movie about it. I was only saying that if they WERE to make a movie, it wouldn't have to be all controversial or whatever. It could just be adressed in simple terms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't know what you mean by it wouldn't have to be all controversial. I mean, it some houses it wouldn't be, but in some houses it would be.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, I'm just saying. You said "just because it won't scar kids doesn't mean Disney should make it into a movie." I agree. There are plenty of nonscarring things that I don't think Disney should make into movies, like bagels or socks. And that wasn't my point. My point wasn't that Disney should make a lesbian movie. My point is that if they WERE to, they could put it like a simple "some people like girls and some like boys." they wouldn't have to make it all sexual and innapropriate, like OP seems to think.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People seriously need to just stick to what the post says. The post says Disney shouldn't make that movie, not it would be a huge deal if they did.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Also what the fuck is a "princess-loving age"? I didn't know that there was an age limit on loving Disney princesses.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i really hope by the time i have kids its completely normal to like any gender and kids are just brought up to feel comfortable with things like that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Kids should be taught that its OK to like anyone, regardless of gender, as young as possible. You want them to be tolerant and open-minded from birth!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There should be no awkwardness in a conversation about being Gay/lesbian with your young children, seeing as children are usually very accepting. If you don't want to have that conversation, don't show it to your child.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's kind of impossible to control everything your child sees.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not impossible to control everything your YOUNG child sees.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A 5 year old could easily see it at a friends house.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My 3 (almost 4) year old nephew figured out who to work the remote and take off blocked channels. Yes, it is. Especially if once in a great while you won't be the one watching them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They shouldn't have had their remote in reach of a kid that little if they want to avoid it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Raise your hand if you just learned a hella bout transgenders

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A lot of parents should get the fuck over it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Get the fuck over what? It's not like I'm against homosexuality, I'm against movies meant for children trying to spread awareness on different kinds of sexuality. The parents can do that themselves, and I think it's weird and mildly inappropriate if Disney took it into their own hands to spread sexuality awareness.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They should get over not wanting to have a conversation about why two people love each other, because that's what we're talking about. Look, homosexuality has been around forever and it's not going anywhere and it's no worse than Disney portraying a sixteen year old getting married, and people seem fine with that. I'm just pretty sick with people hiding behind bullshit reasons to justify their prejudices. It's this type of thinking that perpetuates discrimination against gays. Did you ever wonder why it took Disney so long to make a black princess? Shit has to change eventually.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Discriminate against gays? DUDE. I'M A TRANSSEXUAL LESBIAN. My post is upvoted. This is a pretty liberal site. I'm POSITIVE not everyone who voted YYA is prejudice. It's annoying how you can't say anything about gay people without being accused of being a biggot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well you're the fucking Clayton Bigsby of gay people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You were born a girl. You feel like a guy. You like girls. That makes you a transexual heterosexual (straight trans guy). Your sexual identity keeps changing. There's this thing called "self hate." There are blacks that are racists against blacks, women who think their place is in the kitchen etc...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, you're not. A transsexual lesbian is someone who was born as a male but is transitioning/has transitioned into a female and dates women. Not a biological female who feels male and dates women. And transsexuals want SRS, which you stated above that you didn't. Transgendered straight male? Sure. Transsexual lesbian? Way off base, dude.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"Well honey, some boys like boys, some girls like girls, some boys like girls, and some girls like boys. In fact, some people like girls //and// boys!" How is the above statement bad in any way? :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not bad. Where has any reasonable person on here said it was bad? I don't think you should talk about relationships, EVEN STRAIGHT ONES, until the child is old enough to hold a mature, adult conversation. How is THAT bad?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"Truth or dare?" "Truth." "Who do you like?" "DARE. I meant dare." "I dare you to tell me who you like." ~ Small children are exposed to the concept of mature relationships the moment they learn what a parent is, and will always be aware of it. That's why some small children have crushes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Erm...EVERY Disney princess movie is about a relationship And you would be surprised how understanding and accepting little kids are Though they also can be pretty cruel...They're so honest

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If I could have sex with any comment in the world, I would choose that one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If they're introduced to it in an enclosed family space it will be a lot less awkward than when your little girl points to a lesbian couple in public and asks why two girls are holding hands. You can't shield children from the real world forever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not about shielding them... there's no reason to shield your kids from homosexuality. I agree, it would be a lot less awkward. But you should have the talk with your children yourself, I don't think Disney should be doing it for you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It wouldn't be Disney doing it for you, it would be them sparking the conversation. Let's face it, those kind of talks are hard to start. If a child watches a movie that sparks questions it makes it easier to have that conversation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But it would be so HOT.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I find this funny because you're name. & I think it'd be sweet.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No...he isn't name.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sorry, I was in a hurry while typing this(:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Now we know... god really WAS the one that made lesbians. Hey, deities need entertainment too, I guess

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It would be ok, but it shouldn't be made just to be PC. They should only make it if they think it will make a lot of money.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I understand where you're coming from, but why is it any better exposing young children to heterosexual relationships? It's the same concept, really. Just because there are more heterosexuals than homosexuals doesn't mean that you should shield your kids from different types of relationships. Homosexual couples are a fact of life at this point, so there's no sense in hiding it from your kids. If you're not comfortable discussing different sexual orientations with your children in an age-appropriate manner, then maybe you shouldn't expose them to romantic relationships at all. In this day and age, it makes no sense for kids to learn about heterosexuality now but shield them from homosexuality until they're older.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wouldn't want to explain a heterosexual relationship to a young child either.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hahaha then your kid shouldn't watch movies? or go outside? or speak to adults/teens? and you should be single?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Of course. Because all that stuff leads to explaining a relationship to a small child.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

are you being serious or using sarcasm? I honestly can't tell. and what's so bad about a relationship? It's just like "people wanna be around each other. a lot. because they like each other. a lot." clearly, all these commenters got it wrong. You're not homophobic, you're afraid of small children. Have you ever spoken to a child?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, I was being sarcastic. And yes, I raise my little sister because our Mom died. I don't want to explain to her at 5 or 6 years old the concept of romantic love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But all Disney movies already focus on romance...? If you're really opposed to explaining the concept of romantic love in general, then shouldn't this post technically be "Disney should stop including romance in their princess movies, amirite?"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not opposed to the idea of romantic love, or a kid seeing it, I'm opposed to the idea of explaining it to them at such a young age.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Agreed. It's not that I think them seeing a couple of whatever gender is going to hurt them. I just don't want to explain romantic love to my son. Little kids are curious, and ask "why" after every question you just answered. I'd rather them experience love than have it explained, I really don't even know what I would say.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think your problem is that you suffer from the misconception that "homosexuality" or "heterosexuality" is just that-- a SEXUAL attraction. That may be so when people get older, but when kids are young, they feel no sexual attraction. They just feel a romantic attraction that they can't explain-- crushes, liking someone, things like that. And if you have a kid, you bet at some point of their childhood they're going to have a crush. Lots of them, in fact. So what's wrong with being a boy and having a crush on another boy? Nothing-- it's just like being a girl and having a crush on a boy. It's not scandalous, sexual, or anything innapropriate for kids.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Noooo, that's why I've been calling it ROMANTIC love, not SEXUAL love. If the kid does it themselves because that's who they are, no shit it's not inapropriate. But I'm not going to have a talk with my kids about crushes and love until they are old enough to understand it, which kids in their Disney Princess watching stage are not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Also, they see heterosexual relationships all the time, I assume every day if the parent is in one. They didn't learn about hetero sexual relationships from Disney, they learned them from real life, which is how they should learn about homosexuality too, not from a Disney movie. Kids don't usually question "Why is that girl with that man?" because they see it all the time, it would never occur to them to ask why. If they saw two girls, even in the future if we lived in a more accepting society, heterosexual relationships would still be the most common kind, and they would still ask why is that woman kissing that woman, and bring you into a talk about relationships sooner than you would like to discuss it with them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Kids shouldn't be brainwashed into thinking homosexuality is ok. That's up to themselves. Otherwise, they'll think that they're actually SUPPOSED to be gay or somthing

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know your either born straight or homosexual right? When you have kids watch what they do around 2-8years of age!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uhm dude. Scientifically proven, Thats bullshit. Dumbass. Its a CHOICE. Comment below..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Since the number of straight princess movies would be much higher than the number of lesbian princess movies, that really isn't anything to worry about. If anything it will show the girls who are wondering they don't like boys like they're "supposed" to like all the other princesses that it is okay to like girls. Because it really is okay to be gay.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But...but... Jerry Fatwell and Pat Robertson said that gays caused 9/11! Are you saying that 9/11 was good?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If the gays did it, it must be good.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, a faggot did invent peanut butter (kind of), so I can see where you're cumming hello from.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah.... No.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Snow white: girl lives with seven men, prince feels up her dead body Sleeping beauty: guy breaks into a house and makes out with an unconscious 16 year-old Beauty and the Beast: girl falls in love with a wookie who kidnapped her father Cinderella: guy travels around the whole kingdom to look at girls feet. Foot fetish much? Mulan: girl cross-dresses and goes skinny dipping in a lake with a few dozen men Lady and the Tramp: canines make-out with a bowl of spaghetti The Little Mermaid: guy gets it on with a human-fish hybrid and almost marries an octopus The Princess and the Frog: girl makes out with a frog And you think a lesbian princess would raise too many questions?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because kids notice that. THAT was the point of all those stories.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You really want Disney, with all the things in their movies you just listed, to show your kids their idea on homosexuality? Cuz I wouldn't. They will learn about it when it's time, and they will learn the truth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It looks like you just searched the names of those movies on Google Images and based your entire comment off of that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

if the parents have an issue with them watching it, then just don't let their kid watch it or get the hell over it. SERIOUSLY

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can't control everything your kid watches. It's not as simple as "get the hell over it". I wouldn't want Disney to teach my kids about relationships, and that's ok.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"I wouldn't want Disney to teach my kids about relationships." Do you know how ridiculous that sounded?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you going to give me a reason or just insult me? What if they show two dykey lesbians with short hair wearing flannal. Is that how all lesbians are? No. But if that's the only image a child has of one, that is what they think a lesbian will be.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What if they show a skinny, "girly" girl in a big pink dress falling in love with a "manly", strong guy? Is that how all hetero couples are? No. If you're going to talk about kids making generalizations from DIsney movies, at least apply it to all of them, not just these hypothetical ones. And, the whole point would be that that wouldn't be the kid's only image, because the movie would show that being lgbt is normal.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why should that be a problem? It's a conversation they're going to have to have with their children eventually anyways, so why try to shield them from it? Having a Disney movie with a lesbian princess or a gay prince could make a great learning opportunity. If children are brought up being taught to except all kinds of people the world would be a much better and less judgmental place. Homosexuality is a fact of life and it's no different than a man and a woman being together. Being homosexual myself, I find this post to be extremely upsetting and quite frankly, rather ignorant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They're gonna learn about how babies are made eventually too but that doesn't mean I'm gonna let them see a sex scene. I'm sorry if this offended you though. I'm a girl, but my name is male because I want to be one, I honestly have nothing against homosexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you have nothing against homosexuality then you wouldn't mind someone making a kids movie with a homosexual character?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*IF* I had nothing against homosexuality? I don't. I'm a transsexual lesbian ono So I guess I'm against myself.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Transexual lesbian refers to a MTF transexual who likes women. Like my friend is a gay transexual, which means he is a FTM who likes men.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You dont seem to understand that the sexual orientation of a transsexual is based on the gender they want to be, not the gender they were born as.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How is this ignorant? What are they showing they don't know? Ignorant=/=stupid.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said it was stupid. They're proving that they're too ignorant and close-minded to have a conversation with their children about something that's a fact of life and quite frankly, isn't a big deal.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I can say from a first hand experience, it's not corrupting, it's not awkward, it's not even a "conversation" really. my little sister is best friends with a girl named Ryan and her school. Ryan has two moms. My little sister has mentioned this only when she's talking about going to Ryan's house, or parents, or marriages. the only difference between how my little sister is and how she could've been (had she not been "exposed" to homosexuality) is that when talking about getting married, she doesnt think about the gender of the person she marries. I once asked her who she was going to marry, and she said "I don't know. someone nice."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said it was corrupting, but it would be awkward. Your little sister witnessed it in real life not a movie, and she's your sister, not your kid, you probably aren't the one explaining these things to her. Even if it's not corrupting or awkward, doesn't mean Disney should make a movie about it. I personally think it would be very weird if a children's movie was trying to spread awareness on different kinds of sexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

LOL but no one had to "explain" it to her. because children accept things if you show them through your own actions that it's acceptable.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Not what they see in movies. Homosexuality is perfectly acceptable. But you see heterosexuality more, so kids don't really need a slanted influence from a movie when they already don't see very much real homosexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

your own actions meaning, you don't question the homosexuality in the movie. You don't act like it's weird, or try to have a "conversation" with them, because if you show them that there's nothing strange about the movie, they won't question it. My little sister watched the Lion King, and the first time she didn't know that Mufasa had died. She thought he was sleeping. The second time we watched it, my mom started crying, and after that she understood that it was a sad scene. The same is applicable to movies with homosexual relationships- if you don't react to the relationship in a bad way, the child won't either.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not different kinds of sexuality. It's different kinds of love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Is this really your defininf factor?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sure, Disney does not HAVE to make a movie including a homosexual couple, but that doesn't mean that it absolutely should not make one. Your comments say that you just don't want explaining a relationship to be awkward. You don't find homosexuality to be awkward, just relationships. The worse that can happen is acceptance being spread. I apologize in advance for any bad grammar; my iPod sucks.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Personally, I don't think it would matter. as for the people saying that homosexuality is something your born with, that's Grade A bullshit. it's a CHOICE. Nobody is born that way. Why do you think most people don't turn gay until puberty? And don't bring up your friend who turned gay at 8. I said MOST. as for guys/girls at say, 5, feeling each other up. Yeah sure, thats gay, lesbian, but their 5 year olds, they don't know better. As to the post, I don't see why a lesbian princess is a big deal. As long as their not having lesbian sex on screen ( hello , By the way) it's not a big deal. I know it'll be a hard discussion with your kids, but thats not lesbians/gay discussion. That's just sex in general. I know it'll be a little hard to explain to MY personal kids as to why their Uncle Joey (My brother) and their Uncle Jon (His Boyfriend) are different than others. All I'll say is I'm glad they have the balls to hold hands in public and meet criticism to the face by not only bystanders, but to my mother and father...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think that "most people turn gay at puberty" because most adolescents start having sexual feelings/romantic feelings at puberty, and not before that. Yeah, kids have crushes in 2nd grade, but some gays and lesbians knew they were "different" when they were little.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You're straight, right? Why is it only straight people who say it's a choice? I find it convenient that the only ones who say it's a choice never made that choice. I know this is cliche, but maybe you should try to be gay. Since it's a choice I'm sure you could get a hard on for a guy just as easily as you can for a girl.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I have made that choice. I find it difficult and awkward to kiss a guy. Don't feel right

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because you're not gay, even though you tried to be. So obviously it's not a choice dipshit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If it was awkward then you're not gay. Gayness isn't about who you kiss or who you have sex with, it's about who you enjoy kissing and who you enjoy having sex with. I could have all the sex with a ton of guys if I so desired, but wouldn't be able to call myself straight unless I was attracted to those guys.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a girl and I had a crush on another girl in preschool...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That doesn't mean you were lesbian. It means you were a child. Not old enough to know what you want. Hence the, choices are usually made in puberty. Besides, I never had intention of causing a flame war and stuff. That's just my opinion. I'm pretty sure I'm allowed that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm bi. No straight people I know had a crush on someone of the same sex at that age. The "choices" are made during puberty because that's when you start developing more hormones that and get the urge to have sex because that's when your body is ready. Kids don't have that level of hormones so they just have crushes not sexual urges but they can't control their attractions any more than adults can. You are allowed an opinion, but you can't expect not to be called out on it by people who are attracted to the same sex who have experienced that it is not a choice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its not something you're born with. Thats my opinion. It's a choice. I didn't say I had a crush on the guy. You don't even know the story. It was spin the bottle, and I figured since everybody I knew was bi (even though I was straight, and still am), I'd go ahead and try it. Awkward. Didn't like it. Never will again. End of story. By the way, that guy WAS gay and had a crush on me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My EXPERIENCE is that it isn't a choice at all. I din't say anything about the story, I think you replied to the wrong person.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

xD maybe I did... Meant to reply to the one above you. Meh. If they care they'll read the comments and get the drift. Different opinions, different experience. Thats all just based on my experience and my friends. I think it's a choice, but I don't really give a damn about what random people on the internet think about that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How does it being a game of spin-the-bottle change anything? Yes, you chose to participate and kiss a guy, but kissing a guy does not make someone gay. You could kiss all the guys in the world and be straight if kissing them is always awkward.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

To reiterate what everyone else said, you're wrong. And it's my opinion, by the way, that you're an idiot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yup, I remember having my first crush on a male TV character when I was 4

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How do you know you didn't just want to be their friend?!1?!111?!?!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

BCUZZZZ I didn't want to ride tricycles with him I wanted to touch him

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It actually isn't a choice. Why would people choose to be gay even if it meant they would get killed in the Holocaust? Listen to Lady Gaga. People are born that way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... Not even worth it. I said: that was my opinion and I don't care what you think. Finish reading it before you try to debate me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You might have the right to any opinion you want, but having the opinion that sexuality is a choice is like having the opinion that the moon is made of cheese.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Anyone else lazy to read the massive debate above or is it just me?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe Disney should make a movie with a lesbian princess because it can help the parents who do want to have that conversation. The parents who don't want to have the conversation can just not show it to their kids.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

1 thing is that I don't think anyone should rely on Disney to teach their kids because they won't do it themselves, and 2 you can't control everything your kid watches, especially if they have friends.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not relying on it they are still having a conversation, but they can use it as a reference, for example "Sometimes a someone likes someone else even though they're both men/women, like the princess in ______ and there is nothing wrong with that". You can't control everything your kid watches, but when they are little you can, and you can ask their friend's parents to not let them watch that movie if you want. My friend's mum didn't want her to watch the movie Dumbo because she thought it'd be too emotionally traumatising for her and she managed to stop her from seeing it until she was a teenager. But not letting her watch it didn't shield her from all emotionally traumatising events, and not letting a kid watch a Disney movie with a lesbian princess in it is not going to shield them form homosexuality, they're gonna see couples hold hands and kiss in public, or go to school with someone with two mums or dads etc. Why should Disney have to cater have to not make a movie that could potentially make them a lot of money and do some good in breaking down a homophobic society because it'd make a few parent's uncomfortable?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not about "shielding your kids from homosexuality" it's about not seeing a real relationship and thinking all gay people will be like the one in the movie.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wait so what do you think all the other Disney movies are? They aren't realistic hetrosexual relationships either.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God I don't know how many times I've explained this >:| I wish you people would read comments before posting, but I'm patient so I'll explain. They don't see many gay relationships, they don't know how one actually is. They see hetero relationships all the time, especially if they're parents are straight, they know what a real heterosexual relationship is like from seeing it in real life. If you hear about something without ever actually witnessing it, that is how you think whatever that something is like. Also, idk where you live but this is not a homophobic society. I'm gay and people get PISSED if anyone talks shit about it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh yeah because everyone is going to read the whole comment section again just in case you've posted another comment. Why should that matter? And lots of kids do see homosexual relationships, my parent's had lots of gay and lesbian friends, they just explained it to us by saying some guys like other guys and some girls like other girls, that's who they are and there is nothing wrong with being different. I'm sure a lot of kids grew up thinking Pocahontas was how Native American's really were, but then when they grew up they would have learnt the truth, the same as if there was a gay couple in a Disney movie. I assure you if they made it the world will not end and society will not fall to pieces.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Read it again in case I've posted a new comment? It was explained before you ever left your first comment. Just because your parents had gay friends doesn't mean they all do. Shit, most parents don't even get to see their friends. Historical facts=/= your view and opinion on a group in society. Once you've grown up with a certain opinion, it doesn't just POOF go away. It's not like learnig Santa wasn't real, because it's an opinion, not something that could be proven. I assure you, I never thought it would, but that doesn't mean it's not a bad idea.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I missed the bit where you said that this is not a homophobic society, I to disagree. I'm bi and have experienced people thinking of me negatively because of it and I have lots of gay friends some have been bashed because they are gay, I knew a guy who was a gay and a cross-dresser and he was bashed and stabbed by a broken beer bottle and the police did shit about it. Thousands of hate crimes based on sexuality are reported every year and even more are un-reported. In most western countries same sex marriage is still illegal and don't have in place any anti-discrimination laws meaning someone can lose their job if their employer finds out they are gay, and it happens, there are still countries that stop gay people from serving in the millitary and adopting and even giving blood. Gay teenagers make up 40% of homeless young people, over 50% of gay school students have experienced bulling because of their sexuality. I'm glad that you don't experience it personality but to claim that homophobia is over is ridiculous. If a kid's movie helps stop this prejudice that's a good thing. Also if you're gay how do you plan to get around explaining that to your kids/ kids of friends and family?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'll do it when they're old enough to hold a mature adult conversation and wonder about these things naturally. If they never thought about it before, then there is no need to explain it yet. I'm not going to give my little sister (I raise her) the talk about how babies are made until she askes me, and I won't tell her the girl I bring over is my girlfriend, just like I wouldn't tell her it was my boyfriend if she was a dude. I think the talks should come on naturally. And I think there are better ways to spread awareness than with children's movies, which no one but the children who's parents let them watch it would see so the obviously were ok with homosexuality in the first place.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wait, is Disney actually doing this?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you think about it, homosexuality isn't exclusive to television. Even if it's not featured on a movie or show that your child watches, chances are that they are going to see a gay or lesbian couple in real life. One way or another, someone will have to explain to your child how love and relationships work. Homosexual relationships should not be a taboo, and it isn't something that should be censored or excluded by children's shows. It's pretty disappointing to see that a majority of voters here would not want to have that talk with their young child. It's just love.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wish you people would read the comments to learn about the reasoning. They will see it in real life. This is fine. It's not fine for them to get their idea of relationships from a movie, homosexuals are a minority, and sense kids won't have any prior knowledge on homosexual relationships, they will believe it's just like in the movie.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My comment was in response to the post itself, and to the way that the majority of people had voted. The other comments are irrelevant. My opinion and observation did not change from when I saw the post on the homepage to when I read the comments afterward. So with all due respect, I call bullshit on the 'reasoning'. Just because homosexuals are a minority, that does not mean that kids won't have any prior knowledge of their existence, and it certainly does not mean that it's not fine to be featured in a kid's movie. I understand you have your opinion, and that's mine. We're just going to have to agree to disagree here.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say they won't know gay people ever existed. They probably won't actually, but what I meant was they will not know anything about their relationships, and Disney doesn't give realistic examples of relationships. Kids know how straight relationships are and that many different kinds of people are in them. If they don't know homosexuality is even a thing, or even if they do they just don't see any gay people interacting with each other for longer than what it takes to pass them on the street, what the see in the movie is how they think homosexuality will work. If that's the only reasoning you picked up, you didn't read any comments. And no, prior comments are not irrelevant when they pertain to 90% of what you said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They are irrelevant in the sense that my comment has nothing to do with them. I am not replying to any of the above, I am not condemning any comments that anyone has made. I honestly do not care about what has been commented above. I came here to comment on this amirite post, so I did. It was just my opinion on the matter. And I read some, not all, of the comments. I wasn't reading them to look for the reasoning, I just read them to see in general how other people felt about the post. You can't expect me to want to immerse myself in this post, if I have to read the comments to fully understand its complexities and reasoning then obviously it is not clear enough. But I accept that you didn't say they won't know gay people existed, I was just putting a single phrase to cover the lot in an attempt to get to my point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just meant, everything you said was already said before and if you read my other replies you'd see why I didn't see things the way you do.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just to be clear, my first comment wasn't directed towards you. The 'you' and 'your's were meant to be read as just a general way of addressing everyone. I wasn't challenging your opinion or demanding an explanation, nor did I expect a reply from you. That's why I didn't care to read every one of your other replies. I don't really care for seeing why you don't see things my way, I was just adding in my two cents worth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, fine. They'll believe it's just like in the movie. Is that a bad thing, however? It's not like Disney will throw something in like "oh, lesbians have to cut off their legs before marriage." It'll still be a pretty generic love story, similar to that of a straight one. And sure, there'll be unrealistic things like magic and a happily ever after ending or whatever. That won't matter. I got my picture of heterosexual relationships from Disney movies. As I grew up, I learned that they're not always so peachy-keen. But I'm not permanently screwed up or confused.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What if they showed the lesbians with short hair and flannal? You learned the way a hetersexual relationship is from seeing it in real life, what will they be able to compare in the movie? Outside of gay bars, the only people I've just happened to come across that were gay was my friends sister, my friends uncle, and my uncle. Most of my straight friends are really curious about homosexual relationships because they're not very common. A kid will think the Disney version is how it really is and never learn different.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You hardly said any of that reasoning above. That's a bit more sensical, but it's still illogical. All relationship ideas are fucked up. We're already indoctrinated. I still imagine my relationship with a male to be a bit "magical" like Disney. I have the wrong idea about a relationship and I've never seen a gay relationship in my childhood. I know it's not true, though, so I ignore it. But the same goes for most other gay men, regardless of the sex or gender of the princesses, we're indoctrinated with this shitty idea of a relationship. So your reasoning is invalid.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If we teach children that homosexual relationships and heterosexual relationships are equal, then it doesn't matter if (somehow) all they've seen of a homosexual relationship is in a fairytale movie. As they see that heterosexual relationships are not all about happily-ever-after, they'll know that every relationship has its issues. I see no reason why children would think that homosexual relationships are exempt from the experiences, both positive and negative, of heterosexual relationships unless they've never been exposed to the former and consider it strange and foreign.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This debate is moot. Disney will never do this, their style is way conservative, and they try to be as drama free as possible (weird hidden animation aside). The weirdness of most Disney princess movies is because it's taken from an already creepy story.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://amirite.net/400649 I find it funny that something saying the opposite has the same kind of score.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I read through most of the comments and my opinion has not changed. I'm rather disappointed with the voting. This is not a matter of Disney making a movie like this in order to "promote" anything or spread the word or whatever. It's simply another representation of life. So what if gay people are minorities? That doesn't matter at all. Being gay is natural and not something to be hidden. Disney should have movies that entertain and draw from things in real life (and things that aren't in real life, like magic) without having to worry that some ignorant twerp will complain that Disney is exposing their child to LIFE at a young age. We expose them to heterosexual relationships in Disney movies. Homosexual relationships are NO DIFFERENT. Again minority vs. majority DOES NOT MATTER and it's ignorant and seemingly prejudiced to think otherwise.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well thought out and well written. :) Thanks.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Disney obviously would'nt make a movie with a lesbian princess because it wouldn't sell well enough. Lots of parents don't want their children revealed to that stuff for their own reasons, so they just won't take their child to see the movie or buy any of its merchandise.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Although I am a full supporter of gay marriage,I think that the topic is still a little too hot to be produced by Disney. Gay marriage and homosexuality is a very debated topic, if we can't even get gay marriage in most states, why would it be adapted by Disney? Besides how do you explain that kind of thing to a child who still believes she'll marry a handsome prince (or princess)? That kind of prejudice and confusion will get passed down and what people need more than anything is an open mind.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If kids were taught that homosexuality is natural and okay, no conversation would be needed.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who needs Disney when Hentai exists?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

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by Anonymous 13 years ago

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by Anonymous 13 years ago

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by Anonymous 13 years ago

"Mommy, why are those two princesses kissing each other" -"Because they love each other, sweetie." What's so hard about that?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Disney is a company, a company goal is to profit, not to educate (no matter how much they insist). So when they can make a huge profit from a movie such as this, it's possible. Until then, everyone should be just have an open mind to anything.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When I was five, I was really sad because my best friend and I were both girls, so we could never get married, and then she told me that sometimes girls CAN get married, and my five year old self who knew nothing about sex or sexuality was just happy to learn that two people who love say other can spend their lives together no matter their gender. I'm not lesbian. :p I'm just saying knowledge of gays will most likely enhance a child's perspective on life, not corrupt it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

One favourite. Wow. hmm

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Edit: No favourites now. Wow. hmm

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was the one favorite and I honestly don't remember ever seeing this post before.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

One love. Wow. hmm

by Anonymous 13 years ago

One love. Bob Marley.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Journey. One love feeds the fire One heart burns desire I wonder, who's cryin' now.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Curses! I'm probably way too low for this post to mean anything. But hey, why not. Here's my tumblr post on the issue: http://disneyobsessedtheatergeek.tumblr.com/post/13530704461/i-want-a-princess

by Anonymous 13 years ago

At least that's a fair argument, as opposed to OP, who's just a bad parent.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, I don't really care if OP wants to avoid an awkward conversation. That's his problem, not Disney's.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

After reading some the comments I think what OP meant was that they simply feel uncomfortable with the idea of having to explain what a relationship is to a child, whether it be homosexual or heterosexual. Disney movies featuring hetero couples, however, are less stressful because they depict 'normal' couples that children are used to so they're less likely to start asking questions. The problem with your argument is that it seems to stem from you being uncomfortable discussing relationships with kids, whereas most parents (who accept homosexuality) would actually appreciate it because their child would learn from a young age 'It's OK to be gay' and it would start the conversation rather than making it awkward. I noticed you've said that Disney still shouldn't make the movie, because parents can't control everything their child watches. This is also illogical; it's a parent's responsibility to control what a child is exposed to. If we really went with that logic everything would be censored for fear of a kid somehow seeing it. You have to do your best to keep things 'inappropriate' away from kids, and if they are exposed to it, you have to deal with it like a real adult.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Disney shouldn't make a movie about lesbian princesses so they don't have to deal with the massive shit storm that discussion of gays brings up in society.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh yeah, god forbid anyone has to talk to their children...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I would not have liked a lesbian princess movie when I was younger. Since the day I found out about gays, my mother has been relentless on convincing me that I'm going to burn in hell if I accept it. I would hope a movie like this wouldn't be made just for the sake of other children with mothers like mine.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

An even better reason is actually being historically accurate. In the time period when civilizations were primarily monarchies, lesbians becoming queens would have never been historically accurate. This could be the only aspect where Disney actually goes along with history.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, lesbian queens would take one for the team and marry a man and have sex with him until they had an heir. I don't think that would be appropriate for a kids movie though.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just wondering, because of the way your arguments seem to be going, are you against gays being allowed to adopt? (I've read most of the comments, though my attention is a little divided, and I'm sorry if you've answered this already.)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If kids were to learn about homosexuality at earlier ages, there would be less ignorant homophobes like the OP, who, because of their anon yet named status, I will label as troll.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wait, what disney movie has(will have) lesbian princesses?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I think it would be for the better. Children are very accepting and don't see differences in race/religion/appearance/etc. like we do. If kids are exposed to this earlier (when it's even easier to have "talks" because they're constantly learning) we're just one step closer to equality. I wish I had an opportunity like that. My mom refused to tell me what "gay" meant when I was younger. Now I am. And finding out (from my friend's mom) wasn't hard at all. It was just "it means he likes other guys." The foundation we give our young is critical. But then again, I don't even want to IMAGINE what the One Million Moms Association would say about this. *shudder*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm going to guess, since the author is called "Male", that he meant that parents don't want to talk about male children developing a "taste for lesbians" as most teenagers do.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

OP is actually a transgendered female who wishes she were male.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It'll be a GIANT clusterfuck of butthurt all over the goddamn place. Just look at the comments above. For the sake of not pissing people off, it shouldn't happen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why are we talking as if parents are legally obligated to make their kids watch Disney movies? If you don't want to explain a homosexual relationship to your child just yet, don't let them watch the movie.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do parents really have this "talk"? I never got a talk, I figured it out fine on my own and never had a problem with homosexuals. I figure most people don't even have this conversation anymore, it's really not a big deal, especially to children.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They shouldn't. It's controversial and unnecessary. Sure, awareness is nice and all, but the point of Disney movies aren't to teach about that sort of stuff. That's a parent's job. If a Disney movie does teach something, it's a lesson that's relatable to kids of that time. "Be yourself", "dream big", etc.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What the HELL. I literally am about to be done with this site after seeing the votes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh. My. God. SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS YOU DO?!!!?!!?!? YOU POOR THING. YOU KNOW WHAT? FUCK THIS SITE. RAUUUUGHHHHHHH. Oh hush. I don't go and leave a site like a little baby when things don't go my way. Sure, I'm all for gay rights, but guess what? There's a beautiful thing called freedom of speech - and if someone doesn't believe in gay rights, then so be it. If someone doesn't want a lesbian princess, then guess what? So be it. Do I agree with them? No. But big deal. Freedom of speech isn't there only when it caters to your special needs. I'm sorry if I sounded nasty, but lately it seems that everyone who doesn't have a textbook, typical liberal agenda on this site is immediately close-minded and should be shunned. It's irritating. Let's all just accept others opinions and be civil. Everyone has a different set of morals, and they're not the same as YOURS. Shocking, right? I fail to see the huge, evil problem with a parent not wanting to expose their children to certain issues at a young age.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Simple "Some boys like boys, some boys like girls and some boys like both. Then some girls like girls, some girls like boys and some girls like both."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think to sum everything up... It doesnt matter how WE feel about the situation now. Most of the older generations of society are not okay with it, and its a big portion of the population. Hopefully later, when we have kids of our own.. we can teach them what we believe now and then most everyone can be comfortable with each other.. but quite frankly, we still have problems with judgement of religion. Bias against classes. And prejudice of race. The concept of "being open" about sexual orientation has just begun to scratch the surface and its going to take many years before people can learn to accept, let alone tolerate

by Anonymous 13 years ago

itd be nice if disney had a family sitcom that involved the main character having gay parents. As long as it was well written and not stereotypical i think it would be really nice but i know some would disagree...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

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by Anonymous 13 years ago

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by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hold your horses, OP. It took Disney sixty-something years to finally make a black Princess. It's pretty unlikely that a gay Princess will appear in your lifetime.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or a gay prince!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is why homosexuals have so much trouble accepting their sexuality. And if you're going to be such a cunt of a parent to not bother explaining homosexuality to your children as if it's the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING!, then you should rethink your choice about reproducing. You already suck ass parenting.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People you really have to calm down. I don't think Disney or anything is ready for a lesbian princess. I'm sorry to say, but it'll take more than a few years to change something that's been outlawed for thousands. Even if/when same-sex marriage is allowed, there are still going to be millions of people who don't accept it. It is the way people were raised; woman marries man. Throwing a lesbian Disney princess probably won't help anyone and is just asking for controversy. The idea should hold off until same-sex marriage is allowed in over 25 states. But that's just my opinion- you can have your own. It's a free country. Not really. But still. Alright bye.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh please stop with all this gay\lesbian bullshit. You'll be regretting this as days pass by Mark my words...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The two princes/princesses would obviously get married at the end of the movie, right? Gay marriage is only legal in seven states. That would mean that if Disney made a movie about a same-sex couple right now, it would show an action that is illegal in FORTY-THREE states. I'm pretty sure Disney doesn't like to show illegal things in their movies. They would have to wait until at least forty-nine states and Puerto Rico made it legal to make a movie about it. Disney is not a tool to further your political agenda. It's a business. Don't be stupid.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've always loved amirite, but this post makes me wanna cry. I've had enough of this bullshit. OP, I don't care if you're lesbian, gay, bi, transgender, crossdresser of whatever you say you are - if you believe what you wrote there, that makes you a homophobe. It's your right to be one, just know that you're hurting people by trying to depict homosexuality as something scandalous. Do I have to hide because you're too fucking lazy to have a five minute talk with your kid? I don't think so, sir.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I actually love that idea. I think it'd be really sweet, and it would be a giant step toward acceptance, especially if the lesbian-ness wasn't the whole plotline. Like throw in as many mermaids and spinning wheels and dwarves and evil stepmothers as you can; the only difference is that the 'true love' happens to be another girl. I think this would make a huge statement about equality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think everyone should just calm down. This was just a person's opinion, just vote yes or no. Personally, I wouldn't like to have that conversation with my kid at that age. I don't really want to explain to them what heterosexual sex is at that age either. If you would, then great! It's just an opinion. To the people who think this would be a great idea: cool, say that. But I don't think that we need to go ballistic about this post, and into gay rights stuff. Just vote yes or no. Simple.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why do you think it would have to be a talk about sex? I've seen several Disney Princess movies and they never taught me a thing about sex, nor did they make my parents have to teach me about sex.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't know... I feel like it has the potential to leave a whole lot of 5 year olds confused about something that they'll figure out when they're older. If my mother had told me about lesbiens at that age, I think I might've questioned what sex I was attracted to since I was too young to begin to determine those kind of things. Other than that, I think the movie's a great idea!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I doubt a movie will make you question your sexuality or change your sexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The 3 year old boy I babysit knows what gay means. He told me "That man is gay because he likes boys." Simple as that!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I remember the way I learned about homosexuality- kind of a funny story, really. I was pretty young and on the train and this guy came and sat next to me- looking back on it, he was high as a kite, but I didn't notice at the time. He was gay. I didn't know that really then, but he had that really distinct gay voice (I don't know how to phrase that), and I recognized the voice but not that it was a gay attribute. So I asked him if he did voice acting or something, and he laughed and told me no, he didn't. So I asked if he was ever on TV or the radio, and he laughed again and said, no, he wasn't. I told him he sounded like every fashion designer I'd ever seen on TV - still not associating anything I was saying with homosexuality - and asked if he was maybe related to one. He told me he wasn't and chuckled again. When I got home my parents started to explain to me that some boys like boys and all that- and I told them, oh, I knew that, because my best friend's dad was gay and had a boyfriend and that's why my friend's parents were divorced. My parents were surprised. That was the first time it occurred to me that homosexuality might not be considered normal, but I myself didn't rea...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't really care. Children don't need a conversation; they will understand. Sometimes I think they are the wisest of us all, because they see that we are all human beings, and that we are virtually the same; nothing more or less than alive, and beautiful in every facet of our being, because we have the capacity to recognize and appreciate the intricacy of a world we share and should treasure together.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thats stupid Crazy girl. Not only is this going aginst over 3/4 of the worlds religoins, its just wrong. First, theys should make a princess with cancer. 2nd, they should make a princess that might die soon. As a last resort should their be lesbian princess it. Its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve...

by Anonymous 13 years ago