Rap isn't music to me because it's basically reciting a poem over a beat. There is no singing. It's poetry. And bad poetry, if you ask me. "Nigga i cut this bitch She my ho (she my ho) Dis bitch be in my yard bein' all yo (yo) I say what up She say get down" Very subtle, very poetic. Sure. Then again that's what all music is like today. At least the popular songs. Still irksome. That's not to say I deny that people listen to it, but when people call it music it slightly bugs me. I don't argue about it though.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They don't have to sing, it's still vocals. You can grunt and moan to the beat of a single drum and that would still be music. And a lot of rap is actually meaningful, but even if it's not that doesn't mean it's not music.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Just to /me/ it's not music. I just seems like poetry.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Something being music or not isn't really an opinion, but alright. I suppose I see your point. But just saying, most music is like poetry.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's more about personal definitions.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Music actually has a dictionary definition, so no.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

well so does everything, like love. but you can judge what love is to you. actually that's not even really a good example, but instead of deleting it im just gonna keep on typing. why you ask? who knows. *crawls back into corner*

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Because that matters. You don't have the follow the dictionary. It's just used for understanding, but you can easily change a definition to be personal so long as it makes sense. Love, for example. And hatred. And what friendship is. Music isn't any different.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Poetry can be actually meaningful >_>

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Did anyone ever say it couldn't?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well when you said, "a lot of rap is actually meaningful" I assumed you meant that that supported rap being music. And I was just pointing out that poetry isn't music.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, what I was implying was that their example of what rap music is was dumb because rap music can be meaningful. " but even if it's not (meaningful) that doesn't mean it's not music." it wasn't saying that it being meaningful sometimes supports it being music, because it being meaningful isn't a deciding factor to it being music or not. Sorry if I'm being confusing.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think I see what you're saying. Thanks for explaining your thoughts.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Some rappers actually rap about life or faith or hardships, not girls in clubs.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

calm down loser

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I hate rap/auto-tuned music, not because it's mostly computer generated(I consider that to be a very artistic talent) but because most the artists have almost no real talent and they basically hi-jacked a career from people who are far more talented and deserve more recognition for their work.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

everyone deserves recognition for doing what they do. sure there are some great unrecognized singers out there, but the famous rappers/auto-tuned people didn't just randomly get picked up by an agent, they have gifts and talents too that they worked hard for

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm not saying that they're not talented, I'm just saying there are people who are much more talented and yet still remain in the bowels of unknowness. And they don't have to rely on auto-tune that much to help their singing

by Anonymous 12 years ago

>most the artists have almost no real talent >I'm not saying they're not talented

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Okay I'm not saying that some of them aren't talented? Better?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Exactly. I hate when people think that just because people have "no talent" it's not music. Talent is subjective, music is not. Friday by Rebecca Black is music, regardless of how much I hate it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

1.The art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion. This is the definition of music. It's the last part I believe that really defines music. Music used to be what defined an era, it used to be what could cause revolutions and what could help end wars. Now what is it? It's a joke. Most of the songs I hear now are so superficial it drives me insane. And the fact that you all are defending this sickens me. It might not be a big deal to you, but I think it's sad when computers are more talented than people are. And as always, there are exceptions to this rule. There are rap songs and songs that have been autotuned that actually do mean something. But most of our music will never be rememberd. This generation is falling apart.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Most of anyone's music isn't going to be remembers. Even lust is an emotion. Even not giving a fuck about no body else is an expression of the emotion of detachment. I don't see what your point is, and I don't mean to sound rude by saying that even though I know it does sound rude, I'm trying to understand. I don't see how showing emotion is the most important part, poetry shows emotion and it's not music, music with no words can be interpreted as many different emotions or no emotions at all but it just sounds cool and it's still music.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

From this generation no one will be rememberd. We wont have any rock gods, soul kings, divas. So sure, call it music. I mean really, what are you like 13? There's no way you can know anything about the actual work it took to be considered a musical artist back in the day. It's so easy now, someone else writes your songs for you and someone else fixes your voice up for you and all you have to do is look pretty. There are no more Jimmy Pages, who would work so hard to perfect his guitar work his fingers would bleed. So yes, it's music at music's very core definition. But to me it will always be noise because it lacks the hard work and passion that music really needs.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Almost 18 actually, but how is that even relevant? Also, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houstin and quite a few other artists will ALWAYS be remembered, and it's not like all music back then was great and everyone worked hard. It's not like no one now doesn't. But to quote you, there's not way you can know anything about the actual work it took to be considered a musical artist back in the day. And yes, people even lip synced back then. All that isn't even relevant to something being considered music or not. Music's core definition is not working hard. That's not even close. Is a 4th grader playing the recorder in his music class not considered music to you?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But most rap I've heard doesn't have melody or harmony, just vocals and rhythm, thus it isn't music.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Thank you! I've been trying to find a way to put this and you just said it all. Bravo (:

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If I say this, I don't mean that it's not music, I mean that it's not very good.

by Anonymous 12 years ago