That's fine. I personally wouldn't because a god who promotes these kinds of things isn't a god I'd ever give my loyalty to. Better to die and suffer as good person than assimilate with the bad to get what you want. But I do see where you're coming from.
If God was one to forgive the WBC, then everything I've ever known about God would be completely shattered. He'd be foreign to me, and I would have no desire to worship him.
Besides, worshiping him would automatically mean you agree with them. You can't just worship God just for a ticket to heaven. He'd see right through that. In order to get into heaven, you'd have to believe everything He believes in, including then, the WBC.
Maybe I am proud of myself for not being a WBC-er. I don't understand why I wouldn't be. It's like I'd wish hell on anyone else; just me.
God can be the epitome of forgiveness and love in your eyes but can instantly turn into a figure of evil in mine. Obviously it is possible to rebel against God because why else would hell exist.
Of course you wouldn't be able to beat down God. But if his standards of goodness and acceptance come from the people representing him right now, then I'm not so sure I'd want to blindly follow him, because I don't believe forgiveness of such an atrocity lives up to his title of goodness.
It's not "my fault" that people think what they think. It's purely their fault. I'm not blaming someone else for something they didn't do.
So everything they have ever done can instantly be forgiven just for the fact that they believe in His existence and the bible. Yet if you are a good person but don't worship you'll go to hell.
What kind of God won't send people who literally spend their entire lives hating to hell? Maybe because he agrees with what they're saying, but on a less dramatic scale.
If they repent, they wouldn't be a WBC-er anymore, and I wouldn't say the same things about them. They'd be a normal, everyday citizen and earn the right to go to heaven.
However, if they didn't repent and got into heaven, obviously their actions weren't viewed as sins in the first place.
So if God let them into heaven I'm just supposed to be "confident" in the fact that well, since he's GOD, he must have made the right choice. You know regardless of everything they've done on earth, if they got into heaven, I'm just supposed to know deep down in my heart that God did the right thing by rewarding them with eternal bliss. If they don't repent, I don't believe the God I've known would actually let them into heaven. .
The Westboro baptist church will NOT be in Heaven, I hope. (Yeah I know, I'm not God, who am I to judge that?) they are sinful people. They say they are Children of God, but what about the judging? The protesting? The hate towards others that they have? God does not like it when we're hateful and judgmental to others. Especially people who fight to keep their asses safe. Honor Thy Neighbor. Do Unto Others As You Want Them Done Unto You. Those so called "Christians" must have never learned that in Sunday school. I want them to protest at Ozzy Osborne's funeral, as bad as it sounds (I like Ozzy, don't get me wrong). But all the heavy metal heads would lose their shit and just rip those Westboro pricks to pieces.
Honestly, like many others have said; who's to say that the WBC will go to Heaven? Hell, Jesus said the most important commandment was to love him, and then to love your "neighbor" (not your literal neighbor). Going around talking about how God hates fags and how they will go to Hell is pure hate; no love. God loves everybody, including homosexual/bi people.
It's a hypothetical. The post is saying that if God actually thought the Westboro Baptist Church was doing the right thing, the OP would want nothing to do with him, even if it meant eternal damnation.
I saw this and thought, what the actual fuck. This makes me lose so much hope for humanity. I feel so bad for that kid. The way he talks about the Jews and homosexuals just breaks my heart. I feel like they're being forced against their will to say stuff like that. All their innocence is broken. I don't even know what to say.
Honestly it makes me cringe to know these people exist. Who the FUCK do they think they are? If God is real, he better hate the fuck out of these people. God. Anger rage moment. So glad I don't live in Topeka.
I heard something interesting once. By the boundaries of heaven as exemplified by many, Hitler could very well be accepted into heaven. He was a man who thought what he believed was right and did everything in his power to bring his beliefs to fruition. He worked and strived harder than any other man in the last 70 years to make his moral beliefs a reality, which in a sense means he is devout. If he showed up at judgements gates and god basically said 'This is what was incorrect, this is where you went wrong' and hitler said 'Oh my god, how could I have been so blind! Please accept my forgiveness, I understand now!' and With that enlightenment and a second chance he could have become hugely beneficial to the world. I understand judgement in this sense, as with hitler, the WBC isn't evil, merely misguided. But they have strived throughout their lives to do what they think Is right for the world, what have you done for the world in accordance with your beliefs so far? Equally, they could also both disagree with Gods actual view, and fall to the deepest depths of damnation for the worst sin of all, rebellion, as Originalized by lucifer himself. Interesting concept
Well, that just sounds like a lose/lose situation. If they truly are what God wants us mortals to be, and God really as they believe He is (viscously slaughtering millions for not hating a particular group), Heaven honestly doesn't sound like a much better place than hell. Actually, if the WBC's beliefs WERE true, then only WBC members are going to heaven (as they have flat out stated before), so we have nothing to worry about, anyway!
Hey protested at Fort Hood today, and they had the audacity to bare signs that read "God loves dead soldiers" and those condemning the LGBT community. I wanted to punch them all.
Trust me, they may be burning along with you... the entire principle of living as a Christian is to love everyone no matter their demographic... which, quite clearly, they haven't exactly done...
That's fine. I personally wouldn't because a god who promotes these kinds of things isn't a god I'd ever give my loyalty to. Better to die and suffer as good person than assimilate with the bad to get what you want. But I do see where you're coming from.
If God was one to forgive the WBC, then everything I've ever known about God would be completely shattered. He'd be foreign to me, and I would have no desire to worship him.
Besides, worshiping him would automatically mean you agree with them. You can't just worship God just for a ticket to heaven. He'd see right through that. In order to get into heaven, you'd have to believe everything He believes in, including then, the WBC.
Maybe I am proud of myself for not being a WBC-er. I don't understand why I wouldn't be. It's like I'd wish hell on anyone else; just me.
God can be the epitome of forgiveness and love in your eyes but can instantly turn into a figure of evil in mine. Obviously it is possible to rebel against God because why else would hell exist.
Of course you wouldn't be able to beat down God. But if his standards of goodness and acceptance come from the people representing him right now, then I'm not so sure I'd want to blindly follow him, because I don't believe forgiveness of such an atrocity lives up to his title of goodness.
It's not "my fault" that people think what they think. It's purely their fault. I'm not blaming someone else for something they didn't do.
Also, telling me to abandon everything I believe about morality just to get into heaven and worship God is a little worse than my pride.
If a Christian is a Christian for fear of hell, then are they really a Christian? They don't believe in God so much as they don't want to go to hell.
So everything they have ever done can instantly be forgiven just for the fact that they believe in His existence and the bible. Yet if you are a good person but don't worship you'll go to hell.
What kind of God won't send people who literally spend their entire lives hating to hell? Maybe because he agrees with what they're saying, but on a less dramatic scale.
If they repent, they wouldn't be a WBC-er anymore, and I wouldn't say the same things about them. They'd be a normal, everyday citizen and earn the right to go to heaven.
However, if they didn't repent and got into heaven, obviously their actions weren't viewed as sins in the first place.
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That's a good point. It ought to be brought up to Anthony but I'm lazy and so long as I don't have to see the username I don't care.
So if God let them into heaven I'm just supposed to be "confident" in the fact that well, since he's GOD, he must have made the right choice. You know regardless of everything they've done on earth, if they got into heaven, I'm just supposed to know deep down in my heart that God did the right thing by rewarding them with eternal bliss. If they don't repent, I don't believe the God I've known would actually let them into heaven. .
I'm pretty sure hell is made up of those guys.
The Westboro baptist church will NOT be in Heaven, I hope. (Yeah I know, I'm not God, who am I to judge that?) they are sinful people. They say they are Children of God, but what about the judging? The protesting? The hate towards others that they have? God does not like it when we're hateful and judgmental to others. Especially people who fight to keep their asses safe. Honor Thy Neighbor. Do Unto Others As You Want Them Done Unto You. Those so called "Christians" must have never learned that in Sunday school. I want them to protest at Ozzy Osborne's funeral, as bad as it sounds (I like Ozzy, don't get me wrong). But all the heavy metal heads would lose their shit and just rip those Westboro pricks to pieces.
Well someday their gonna test someone too far. Like when they protest at a military funeral, someone has a gun probably.
Honestly, like many others have said; who's to say that the WBC will go to Heaven? Hell, Jesus said the most important commandment was to love him, and then to love your "neighbor" (not your literal neighbor). Going around talking about how God hates fags and how they will go to Hell is pure hate; no love. God loves everybody, including homosexual/bi people.
It's a hypothetical. The post is saying that if God actually thought the Westboro Baptist Church was doing the right thing, the OP would want nothing to do with him, even if it meant eternal damnation.
If the WBC rules are the guide-lines for Heaven, then I choose Hell because that's where everyone will be while the WBC is alone in Heaven.
I saw this and thought, what the actual fuck. This makes me lose so much hope for humanity. I feel so bad for that kid. The way he talks about the Jews and homosexuals just breaks my heart. I feel like they're being forced against their will to say stuff like that. All their innocence is broken. I don't even know what to say.
Honestly it makes me cringe to know these people exist. Who the FUCK do they think they are? If God is real, he better hate the fuck out of these people. God. Anger rage moment. So glad I don't live in Topeka.
I heard something interesting once. By the boundaries of heaven as exemplified by many, Hitler could very well be accepted into heaven. He was a man who thought what he believed was right and did everything in his power to bring his beliefs to fruition. He worked and strived harder than any other man in the last 70 years to make his moral beliefs a reality, which in a sense means he is devout. If he showed up at judgements gates and god basically said 'This is what was incorrect, this is where you went wrong' and hitler said 'Oh my god, how could I have been so blind! Please accept my forgiveness, I understand now!' and With that enlightenment and a second chance he could have become hugely beneficial to the world. I understand judgement in this sense, as with hitler, the WBC isn't evil, merely misguided. But they have strived throughout their lives to do what they think Is right for the world, what have you done for the world in accordance with your beliefs so far? Equally, they could also both disagree with Gods actual view, and fall to the deepest depths of damnation for the worst sin of all, rebellion, as Originalized by lucifer himself. Interesting concept
Well, that just sounds like a lose/lose situation. If they truly are what God wants us mortals to be, and God really as they believe He is (viscously slaughtering millions for not hating a particular group), Heaven honestly doesn't sound like a much better place than hell. Actually, if the WBC's beliefs WERE true, then only WBC members are going to heaven (as they have flat out stated before), so we have nothing to worry about, anyway!
Hey protested at Fort Hood today, and they had the audacity to bare signs that read "God loves dead soldiers" and those condemning the LGBT community. I wanted to punch them all.
Well, you'll be dead.
Trust me, they may be burning along with you... the entire principle of living as a Christian is to love everyone no matter their demographic... which, quite clearly, they haven't exactly done...