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+109Men love cars because they can control them, women love shoes because they can walk all over them, amirite?
If you're not totally fine with your son being the way he was born, then you need to rethink your parenting.
Not totally fine doesn't mean I'll love him less, it's just not my ideal scenario, and given the choice, I'd have him straight and not be undecided.
I can be not totally fine with my son being born without legs. But I won't love him any less and it won't change my view of him
My brother's severely autistic (and I mean severely) and each member of my family would give up their right arm if he were able to be a normal child. Does that mean we're not okay with the way he was born? Yes. Does that mean we love him any less? No.
I hate to sound self-righteous, but I've found that it's just something that anyone without a mentally challenged person in their immediate family is completely unable to understand. I love my brother, but I've give anything for him to be a normal preteen.
That's true, and not something I considered with my comment.
I was intending mine only in response to sexual orientation (the original post), rather than actual disabilities.
Sexual orientation is not something that affects one's ability to be independent, live a full life or needs treatment in any way; unlike some of the other example above such as autism or physical disabilities.
Even though it can be more difficult being gay, this is due to the ignorance of others. While the attitude still exists that it is undesirable to be gay, even in a 'not wanting your child to face hardship' manner, it still reinforces the notion that being gay is something to be ashamed of.
Let's reword the original post with a different group, and see if it would still be acceptable:
"You can be for women's rights without being totally fine with your baby turning out to be female, amirite?"
Again, by 'totally okay' I mean you have absolutely no preference. I want my first born to be male, so I would be happier with a son first and a daughter second, but it's such a small matter that it wouldn't affect my outlook on anything.
Exactly. Although being gay isn't that bad...
Of course. In both circumstances I would prefer against it simply for the needless hardships both sons would face
Ah, that makes more sense. :)
The only reason why I wouldn't want my child to be gay is because life for homosexuals is so much harder than heterosexuals. I wouldn't want them to have to fight for their rights their entire life
It's a little hypocritical but yeah. Just like you can think interracial marriages should be legal without wanting your child to marry someone of another race.
It's one of those 'not in my backyard' things.
I think she meant they should retain their legal status.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but that isn't how it was meant. I can say "I think alcohol should be illegal to minors" even though it already is, as a way of agreeing with the law.
Yes, exactly.
I never said they weren't, mixzie.
Of course you can, and like that post about abortion said, it's awesome that your personal views don't interfere with your political views. It's just kind of sad that you even have an "ideal scenario" for your child's sexual orientation.
How is it sad? I would also prefer my first born to be a boy and my second to be a girl, but that doesn't mean I'd hate my kids for not going along with it. It's just what I would choose if i somehow got the option of deciding what the rest of my life and family would be like.
Well, okay. That's interesting, I guess. Like how girls think of name's for their future children but don't end up naming them that. Having an ideal family is fine as long as it's imaginary.
You referenced my post and now I'm happy.
Having an ideal family is fine as long as you won't care if you don't get it. You make it sound like no one should have an ideal family.
I just corrected myself to sound less assholey about ideal families, but okay.
Who and how?
Qwerdie, about the abortion post
I think it's okay to have preferences. I know one woman in my town that wanted her son to marry a beautiful Bengali girl and have her wonderful grandchildren, and she was absolutely crushed that he turned out to be a closet gay and was not interested in having children.
Also, like people already said, life for gays is tough. There are still a lot of people that don't see them as normal human beings deserving of rights, although the situation is improving. I can understand why you wouldn't want your child to feel isolated and different because of his/her sexual orientation.
By not being totally fine with it, do you mean that someone doesn't support it, or is slightly disappointed by it?
I can understand why a parent would prefer to have straight children, but if they are fine with it in others but unaccepting of it in their kids, then that just means they're both homophobic, and don't care about there being something they think is wrong in the world getting worse, which are two wrongs that cancel out in practicality, but don't make it right.
I mean they have a clear preference to have straight children. As in, given the choice, they'd say they want all their children to be straight not, "Oh, I don't know, anything. I don't care"
Okay, I can understand that