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It's annoying when people say that homophobes only hate gays because they're secretly gay themselves. The vast majority of homophobes hate gays because of either their religious beliefs or because they look upon gay sex with disgust. If someone fears Muslims, everyone knows it's because Muslims are stereotyped to be extremists. No one suspects that they fear Muslims because they secretly worship Allah and they fear being near a fellow Muslim will somehow surface their religious beliefs, amirite?
Mmm I dunno, all I'm saying is my dad was a huge homophobe and then he came out...
/kidding. About all homophobes being gay, I mean. The dad thing was true.
I bet the KKK members are secretly black too.
"Is that.... Watermelon?!"
There was one study that found that homophobes were more likely than regular heterosexual men to become erect while watching gay porn, but the researchers ascribed this to their anxiety, not actual sexual arousal. Therein lies the misconception that homophobes are all closeted gays.
Fun fact of the day: 'allah' simply means god in Arabic.. It doesn't mean a Muslim specific God.. In fact all the abrahamic religions (Christians, Muslims, Jews) believe in the same basic god, their differences lie in that they all have some different fundamental beliefs and values ( though they're pretty similar) and different beliefs about HOW God came to be as well as the prophets.
Tldr; Allah means god in Arabic despite what religion you are referring too. Stop encouraging misconceptions.
I'm 'bitching' as you so eloquently put it it because your use of 'connotation' is irrelevant if it's wrong. "No one suspects that they fear Muslims because they secretly worship Allah" literally translates into "No one suspects that they fear Muslims because they secretly worship God".. there is no 'Muslim God' and 'Jewish God'.. they're all the same God. This weakens your analogy since it doesn't make sense.
I know Allah means God, but the connotation of "Allah" is the Muslim God...
No, it isn't. Allah is an Arabic word; it means 'God' in that language. It's a language-specific word, not religion-specific. For instance, the word is found in Christian scriptures, and Christianity was founded before Islam. It's actually a word used in all three of the Abrahamic religion's texts because all three originate from the Middle East (where they speak Arabic). Most people connect it with Islam because Muslims are required to be able to read Arabic (so as to read the Quran in it's original text), so it's commonly associated with them. It is not a Muslim word however.
It does make sense if you factor in the connotation.
@CherryBlossom Some Muslims have killed innocent civilians because they feel they are justified. It does not make them right and it should not be something that represents the religion.
@YeahIAm I genuinely don't know how to explain myself any more clearly.. so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
You're bitching about my use of the word "Allah," yet it seems you don't know what "connotation" means.
This post contains some of the most pointless arguments I have ever read.
You'd be surprised at the amount of homophobic gays.
Well it is true sometimes. Some closeted gays act more awkward around other gays because they want to seem straight but it's still awkward. I know a guy like this and everyone thinks he's homophobic, but he's just uncomfortable with himself. This probably isn't that common, but still it is possible.
That might come from the several anti-gay politicians who turned out to be gay.
I have met many gays who were homophobic before they came out of the closet and even after. This is because they have internalized society's negative views of gays and by acting homophobic they are distancing themselves from the larger gay community and preventing themselves from being identified as gay. It's also because they hate themselves for being gay and are outwardly expressing that hate towards other gays. So while being secretly gay is definitely not the only possibility, it is one of the big ones.
I totally get what you're saying here, and I don't think every homophone is secretly gay, but I don't really think you can compare the two like that. Some Muslims (the extremist terrorists) are actually legitimately dangerous. There isn't a group of gay people that are just going to go blow up a building and kill people. Some Muslim extremists do.
I'm not saying it's okay to hate a whole group of people like some people hate Muslims. But I don't think the two are really comparable in that aspect.
Alright, bro. It never reached an argument because each of the multiple times I asked you to explain your unsupported claim, you came up with some vague comment in an effort to not have to explain whatever bullshit reasoning you have.
Remember, kids, the cure for ignorance is pointing it out and refusing to correct it.
Alright, let's say there's a Christian that doesn't want to be around atheists. That Christian would fear atheists because he's an unintelligent asshole that thinks atheists lack morals, not because he secretly didn't believe in God.
Remember kids. Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded
Now I changed my mind. I'm now going to present a clever, sarcastic image:
All of it.
What is...?
... So, you don't even know what's ignorant about it?
You're wasting my time. I'm done.
Since I'm now getting a lot of thumbs downs, I'm going to explain my perfect, well thought out reasoning:
In your comment, you're clearly passing massive judgement against black people. I don't think it's right to say "vague;" that's racist.
... What about my comment?
I'm not sure how you could specify it without sounding like an idiot. There's nothing ignorant about my comment.
Your comment is ignorant and offends me.
Bitch, you just wasted like all my time I could have spent masturbating to 2 Girls 1 Cup...
I didn't realize Christians that fear atheists because of their lack of absolute morals were a large group of people. I was actually giving Christians the benefit of the doubt and assuming that group is a small minority. And I'll use whatever harsh labels I want against them; it's not ignorant to rightfully point out the brainless fucks.
Why the fuck couldn't you understand that based on my first comment where I told you I was offended?
Bro, did you read just my comment? You seem to have ignored everything I said, namely that I wasn't labeling all Christians.
And I wanted to continue the conversation until you said something that wasn't vague bullshit, which was two of your comments ago.
2 Girls 1 Cup?
Lol bro, way to block me.
But if you lose (cough boxtop cough), you're a loser on top of that.
He wasn't labeling all Christians. He was labeling Christians who fear atheists. Bitter, perhaps, but not ignorant.
This post is just wrong on so many levels I can't even begin to explain it.
If you can't even begin to explain it, maybe it's not so wrong after all.
Then why the fuck did you waste precious Amirite space with your comment?
Not all Muslims worship Allah
What...? Pretty sure you have to believe in Allah to be Islamic, bro...
That's like saying Not all Christians worship God...
"There is no god but God, and Muhammad is his prophet."