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+13In a fencing face-off between Byungchui Choi of South Korea Andrea Baldini of Italy, a homoerotic Olympic fencing dispute proved that a bit of reckless ass-stabbing is, in fact, a perfectly legal operation, amirite?
I looked up both of those. According to Google, Obama never said either of these. The only result coming up is to this post.
Are you paraphrasing?
Yup. It's a paraphrasing of two effective ad populem appeals. Based on some party-line blurring stuff I remember him saying in '08, and Clinton's bizarre partisan appeal for Obama in '12. I'll cite some sources, if it really concerns you.
Well you have to take that with a grain of salt. He's really saying that for Congress/ the gov't to make progress, they need to compromise (the two parties do) but now he's saying that the Republicans refuse to compromise.
Well, on the whole, it is rather true. Obama's slogan in 08 was "Yes, we can," not "Yes he can." It required a collective effort. Republicans have used the filibuster more time than any Congress in the past, blocking some measures (like health care for 9/11 first responders) that the large majority of Americans of both political parties wanted. And the House has tried to repeal Obamacare 33 times now, instead of doing productive things, like focusing on jobs, or passing bills from the Senate that many third party economists have said would create thousands and thousands of jobs. All of this because they don't get every single point they want.
You are very good at repeating yourself. Therefore I will repeat myself:
Didn't obama have congress in his hands for 2 years. I'm sorry, my good man (or woman), your facts don't check up!
And yes, you are right on. The republican "establishment" have refused to do things productive. They could do many things that would slow the tentacles of obamacare and even possibly stop it, but they don't, fearing the wrath of voters. This is the republican party's greatest weakness, and why America has slowly been slipping away to the democrats. This is also the reason the Tea Party was formed, to actually get some constitutional conservatives into congress to straighten things up.
See other thread. Two posts were nearly the same, so the same argument applies to both.
For all reading this and are interested in where the discussion goes: http://amirite.net/736537/1813682
And on a much less important note: man