I think some people are over-interpreting this post, and I think the main source of your No Ways will be die-hard atheists who are insulted that you are saying "god did it" - even though you're totally not

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I find unbelievable because it raises the question of who created the intelligent designer.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I find it easier to believe because they'd be a god. Gods don't need to be created because they're a god so they don't play by "human rules". If it was created by different means that weren't godly, it seems like something would always have to come first.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

So, the universe can't just be there, but an entity can? That's kinda contradicting.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

The way I see it is that most people (not you, but several other people I've seen) who say that they don't find it probable because "what created God?" is because something can't come from nothing. Something would have to have come from nothing at some point. I think a god would make sense in that situation because they're supposed to defy things like that which is why they're gods and not humans.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

You know the universe could be considered a deity, right? And that still doesn't make sense. Because the universe can come from nothing if a god can, since both are pretty much equal anyway. A god would be limited to his universe.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I think a marriage of you's twos's views is required here, on the one hand, Adonis is right in saying that a self-creating deity is a contradiction of the logic put forward that the universe too didn't create itself. But, Statefarm is saying that the god wouldn't play by "human rules" so it can. Well, how about we agree that the "intelligence" in question wouldn't play by human rules, and therefore wouldn't be anything like a "deity" we could imagine, but some other form of extraordinary cosmic phenomenon that we don't even really havea a word for yet, but we just have to attach words like "deity" and/or "intelligence" to.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

although just because the two disagree doesn't mean that the correct answer is a compromise, I like your idea. there still could be a personal diety that doesn't need to be subject to the laws of its created universe

by Anonymous 11 years ago

To be honest, I always find it rather audacious of anyone to claim they have a definitive answer to the universe...I mean, it's childish, naive and ignorant to think so. Don't you think? It's one thing for people like us to be tentatively putting forward possibilities, but some other people are freakin' nuts, saying that it's THEIR God and THEIR belief system that explains everything. It's quite astonishing

by Anonymous 11 years ago