+19 Feminism is necessary even in the so called "modern" world. Amirite?

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Well yeah. Even if/when equality is achieved, it should still be supported

by Anonymous 8 years ago

That's what I always say. You gotta make sure you don't lose what you fought so hard for

by Anonymous 8 years ago

What feminism fought hard for was braking down necessary gender roles that kept family's together.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

id say humanism is whats important their shouldn't be an emphasis on equality for one group of people if any movement should exist it should be for everyone and it shouldnt be about forced equality it should be about respect and kindness. making everyone be treated exactly the same is foolish each person has specific needs and disires that wont be met by making everyones conditions the same thats Marxism and as nice as that fantasy is it doesnt work. fairness isnt always about equality its about understanding peoples needs and fulfilling them on an individual basis. wanting any group to be treated like any other group usually involves dismissing the needs and uniqueness of the people in that group a big example is pregnancy in this case if women where treated the exact same in regards to it as men they wouldnt get time off. i guess what im saying is we dont need to have equal systems we need systems that best suit the personal problems and unique experiences of our genders. demanding exact equality for sexes is as absurd as putting urinals in womens bathrooms. if we want to make life better for women we need to Taylor the improvements to them not focus on equality. trust me when i say an irrational need for balance can drive you to madness and make progress impossible ive been there wanting perfect equality in all things but that simply cannot be embracing differences is the key to a better life.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

It's better for organization Different groups for different goals The way school is divided up into subjects If it's not divided up, certain subjects and groups would be even more neglected because it's too much to focus on with everything lumped together

by Anonymous 8 years ago

i disagree. 1)human respect is the goal for all people 1.2) ive yet to see a mens right activist be treated with respect by feminists and that seems an unfair playing field. 2)schools used to make all classes intersect at various points showing the connections between the fields. separation never created fuller understanding weather thats in a classroom or in social politics 3)where is the proof for that. 4)that doesnt address my core disagreement of fairness vs equality.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Yup

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Feminism will be necessary until we can recognize men and women as equals. Unfortunately a lot of people misunderstand feminism and find themselves opposed to it.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Just look at the lovely slaves I mean women of the arab world. And just look right here as girls are kept from playing football unless they strip down and join the underwear league

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Feminists have destroyed what is Feminist.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Not all of them. Hey I remember you!!!!! Nice to see you here on the superior site

by Anonymous 8 years ago

I don't need feminism because I'm not a manipulative idiot playing victim. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means#.mdPGmaoZd

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Of course.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

I see it (today's feminism movement) as a disorganized group of people who don't have a consistent view of what feminism really is. Some will tell you that feminism fights for equal rights for men //and// women. Some will try to guilt trip you for not considering yourself a feminist. Some will tell you that feminism is fighting exclusively for women's rights. Some (the few extremists) will ridicule & disregard any man's opinion on any issue. This is what initially turns me off from feminism. That, and the extremists have already stuck a bad rep with the term anyway. So my thought is if you want to fight for some sort of cause, why focus so much on the label or organization that's fighting for it? I no longer consider myself a Libertarian. I do agree with the concept of it but I noticed that the term 'Libertarian' started to become associated with the extremists who made it look bad. So to keep from distracting from my arguments, I rid myself of the label. For most problems feminism is fighting today, these are problems that a lot of //individuals// simply need to toughen up and solve themselves. Like women not wanting to shave. Or women who want to get out and work rather than do housework. Or men who want to stay at home to help out. At some point you gotta put your foot down and stand up for yourself. To wait for a group to get society to accept things so that you can finally do them without ridicule is very inefficient. The solution is to just do those things and deal with the ridicule; become a stronger person. In other cases though, I do see a reasonable case for feminism. Like when there's something in a form of legislature that is creating an unfair disadvantage towards women. This is when you need an organized group to come in and help. Fighting for women outside of America who don't have any kind of freedom is also something that an organized group can better conquer than an individual. But ultimately, for me to fully agree with modern day feminism, I'm going to need to see some consistency within the members of the group itself.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

There's never consistency in any group. It's just that some are more consistent than others I remember you saying Libertarian is the only label you'd use for yourself. Looks like that's gone, too

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Labels change because words change. All we can do is adapt to them.

by Anonymous 8 years ago