Does my shoulder distract you? Girls don’t need to learn how to dress properly guys need to learn how to act properly. It’s not boys will be boys it’s take responsibility for your actions, amirite?
Plain English Bottom Line: The OP is saying that people blame their rapey actions on what the girls are wearing
They put the blame on attractive clothing instead of considering they should be able to control themselves instead
I don't know how much I agree with this. At first I thought I disagreed, because school is supposed to prepare you for the real world, and how many people in the real world adhere to high school dress codes? Almost none.
However, I do think that both the person wearing and outfit and the person interacting with them have a responsibility, regardless of their genders. If someone is wearing something you find attractive/slutty/inappropriate/whatever, you do not have the right to harass or assault them. That said, if you're wearing something that is "inappropriate" for a given situation (school, a funeral, whatever), that is your choice and you have to be okay with others responding to that choice, whether favorably or not. It's your decision whether you want to dress in accordance to what people around you find acceptable, and it is not others' responsibility to agree with your choices.
It depends on what the person interacting is doing though. If they are just looking well that's in human nature but if they are doing ANYTHING physical or harassing they automatically take all the blame because it is a conscious choice to move beyond the threshold of acceptable action.
In short it's a sorta moral event horizon that determines the blame
Yeah that's what I'm saying. There's never an excuse for harassing or assaulting someone. Especially over what they're wearing. But if how you dress is deemed inappropriate by whatever community you're spending time with, you can either change your clothes or find a different community.
For example, I have a facial piercing and a visible tattoo. In a job interview, I always ask if they care whether they're covered/removed or not. While I am fully in my right to choose to do those things to myself, the employers are not responsible for treating my dress code as their own. I can cover/remove them, or I can find a different job.
So yes in some situations a dress code may be there to improve a business or organization or community etc by basically getting better PR. It's a shame that society is set up to view sex, the most essential biological process for furthering a species as such a negative taboo
People forget "take responsibility for your actions" works on both sides.
Yes, guys need to treat women decently regardless of how they are dressed.
But gals need to stop complaining that they are being treated like sluts, when they dress and act like sluts.
And parents need to stop making little girls dress/makeup like prostitutes, to win beauty contests.
What if a girl wanted to dress "slutty" because they simply liked the way the outfit looked on themselves. Did you ever think of that? are you just making assumptions that all girls who dress slutty are just "mad for the penis" or do you really know? Let people dress how they want. It's not their fault other people can't control themselves!
As for Pageants I agree. People like to pretend they aren't hyper sexualizing little kids but.....they are. There's a difference between these two things though. One is the parents are making the kids do. The older consenting "slut" Girls are wearing the clothes by choice. We have freedom of expression in America...or are you a fascist?
If a gal dresses like a slut and acts like a slut ... she has NO right to complain when others treat her like a slut, because they are acting according to how she presents herself to them.
This might be easier to understand with a bit more punctuation.
Plain English Bottom Line: The OP is saying that people blame their rapey actions on what the girls are wearing
They put the blame on attractive clothing instead of considering they should be able to control themselves instead
I don't know how much I agree with this. At first I thought I disagreed, because school is supposed to prepare you for the real world, and how many people in the real world adhere to high school dress codes? Almost none.
However, I do think that both the person wearing and outfit and the person interacting with them have a responsibility, regardless of their genders. If someone is wearing something you find attractive/slutty/inappropriate/whatever, you do not have the right to harass or assault them. That said, if you're wearing something that is "inappropriate" for a given situation (school, a funeral, whatever), that is your choice and you have to be okay with others responding to that choice, whether favorably or not. It's your decision whether you want to dress in accordance to what people around you find acceptable, and it is not others' responsibility to agree with your choices.
It depends on what the person interacting is doing though. If they are just looking well that's in human nature but if they are doing ANYTHING physical or harassing they automatically take all the blame because it is a conscious choice to move beyond the threshold of acceptable action.
In short it's a sorta moral event horizon that determines the blame
Yeah that's what I'm saying. There's never an excuse for harassing or assaulting someone. Especially over what they're wearing. But if how you dress is deemed inappropriate by whatever community you're spending time with, you can either change your clothes or find a different community.
For example, I have a facial piercing and a visible tattoo. In a job interview, I always ask if they care whether they're covered/removed or not. While I am fully in my right to choose to do those things to myself, the employers are not responsible for treating my dress code as their own. I can cover/remove them, or I can find a different job.
So yes in some situations a dress code may be there to improve a business or organization or community etc by basically getting better PR. It's a shame that society is set up to view sex, the most essential biological process for furthering a species as such a negative taboo
People forget "take responsibility for your actions" works on both sides.
Yes, guys need to treat women decently regardless of how they are dressed.
But gals need to stop complaining that they are being treated like sluts, when they dress and act like sluts.
And parents need to stop making little girls dress/makeup like prostitutes, to win beauty contests.
What if a girl wanted to dress "slutty" because they simply liked the way the outfit looked on themselves. Did you ever think of that? are you just making assumptions that all girls who dress slutty are just "mad for the penis" or do you really know? Let people dress how they want. It's not their fault other people can't control themselves!
As for Pageants I agree. People like to pretend they aren't hyper sexualizing little kids but.....they are. There's a difference between these two things though. One is the parents are making the kids do. The older consenting "slut" Girls are wearing the clothes by choice. We have freedom of expression in America...or are you a fascist?
If a gal dresses like a slut and acts like a slut ... she has NO right to complain when others treat her like a slut, because they are acting according to how she presents herself to them.
Define "Treating her like a slut"
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