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I'm for a future that looks like the Imperium from warhammer 40k.
Naw copper is really expensive and oxidizes quickly and reacts with electricity a lot and is just not as good as stainless steel for most surfaces.
But God damn if I don't love a gorgeous patina.
Not likely since copper is expensive and brass tarnishes quickly - high maintenance.
I want this XD
Not bad, copper and brass look nice, they are warm and colorful.
no, nothing will change.
Everything is chrome in the future!!
I think OP's concept is correct. Whether or not it will be copper or some man-made material is the question.
I'm super cool with this!
So unless someone gets right on inventing hypoallergenic copper, the world is about to get a lot less accessible.
Does it?
Yeah- look it up. It's pretty cool actually. Basically, the electrons in copper are way more fluid that those in other metals, which ionizes and destroys the viral RNA. Or something like that.
How?
I don't fully understand it. If you look up "copper coronavirus" the first article explains it better than I could
I'm hyped.
Whoa.. like the Dwemer in Marrowind.
No coppers to expensive to be used like that
Gosh I hope so
We've had antimicrobial plastics for years now so likely more of that too.
Very unlikely. Brass is twice as expensive as steel, and a much softer metal.
Would it be possible to instead coat things in brass most of it would be then made of a cheaper metal but the surface would still disinfect itself
Up until recent design trends, brass was very common in door knobs, railing, etc
Why is brass so expensive?
Brass is made from copper and zinc.
Copper is expensive as it's a damn fine conductor. It gets stolen anywhere it's not nailed down... Or even if it is nailed down, it still gets stolen
to the extent that some even climb utility poles to steal the cooper wires.-
Sometimes I wish someone would steal the buried copper phone line from the 70's that my internet goes through just so frontier will be forced to replace it and I can have decent internet finally
You know what you have to do...
I've always wondered -- how in the world does someone fence obviously stolen copper wire? Who buys it? Is it melted down then sold? Or just stripped of the shielding?
I live in Tulsa and some professionals literally stole the copper wire out of the streetlights on a highway, disguised as an electrical crew working on them. They stole probably 5-10 miles worth of streetlight wiring.
Oh wow. Wonder what that works out to in dollars
I'll try to find the article about it for you.
there are lots of sources for cooper so it's really hard to check the origin of it, you can melt it, you can probably handle it to some recycling plant through the backdoor too, there's probably people on craigslist with the equipment willing to buy and melt it themselves.-
not necessarily the one stealing is the one dealing with it as long as you don't ask question to the seller, you are okay, tools, bycicles, etc are stolen and sold all the time and are much more identifiable than just wire.-
Good luck trying to prove that that wire is your (stolen) wire.-
My dad works in construction and I spent a summer stripping wire and selling it to reputable recycling places. I've literally never been asked the source of my wire when selling it.
I would strip copper wire and scrap it at my local scrapyard when I was homeless. Good money if you give ID and wait 3 days at a legitimate place, half the price no questions asked on the spot at a not so legitimate one.
It depends on how professional the thieves are. Often they just put it in a pile and set it on fire letting the insulation burn away. Then they bring it to a dodgy dealer who melts and resells it.
Or like any scrap yard. Scrap yards dont ask questions.
Thanks; makes sense. Never considered burning away the insulation.
If you ever see a massive green flame in a field people are doing just that.
Some scrap dealers while buy copper of just about anybody.
I'm not sure about other countries but in the UK we have scrap yards. You generally require ID but it's quick and easy cash.
I learned about fences from Skyrim :)
So you just line steel with a microscopically thin layer of it. This ain't rocket science.
Have you ever seen a statue everyone touches? The outermost layer just jets erased. Layering is still a solution, but microscopically thin? A layer of about 1-2 cm should be sufficient.
2 cm is almost an inch, which is excessive. You would only need a coating of a few Millimeters. The copper coating on pennies is way less than 1 mm.
The outer layer isn't "erased" lmao. Brass tarnishes, people touch the tarnished surface repeatedly, the tarnish (oxide layer) is slowly worn off.
and with that, there goes your plating too.-
Pennies get handled and worn and ground against other coins constantly. I have yet to see one with significant wear.
That's because banks will send them to US mint for destruction before they reach that point. Same with dollar bills and other coins.
No it's called "metallurgy" and your proposal isn't as easy as you might expect.
Copper plating stuff is not that difficult, but it oxidizes rapidly and quickly becomes green or even black and then it just rubs off.
I'll have you know that I'm an 11th level metallurgist in all of my fantasies, so yes this would be in fact easier than I imagine.
Touché
actually, according to what you just said, it would be harder than you imagine
Is that why in Cubic Castles there is a steampunk set at the moment?
Self disinfecting surfaces, yes. Copper and brass probably not. Titanium dioxide added to plastic or other materials works well for instance, but it needs UV. Some stainless steel works as well. There are other options.
Not in NYC my friends. The bums and the punks will steal it all right after it's installed...
There's also the possibility of everything being covered in titanium dioxide. It disinfectants itself in the presence of light, and it's already widely used as a pigment (it makes paint white.)
It is the way.
Everything will be stolen sooner or later.
nope
Well this would be unfortunate. I happen to be allergic to copper.
Can't wait for copper toilet seats in public toilets.
That sounds very cold.
laughs in meth head
And those seats would be stolen in 24 hours or less.
Copper poisoning
There won't be toilet seats where we're going.
Ah, China.
Cant wait for copper hole in the grounds
That sounds pretty uptown.
We are going to India?
No no, not that far. Just the forest.
This caught me offguard.
After the great Toilet paper famine of 2020, society has switched to a alternative method of cleaning our bums.
I give you..the three sea shells.
This guy doesnt know how to use the 3 seashells
My butt just puckered thinking about sitting on a cold copper toilet.
Me to. Finally something worth stealing
Hell yeah, I love steampunk
This is one reason hospitals in the UK have seen a huge rise in bugs. They replaced the door handles to plastic and the floors from linoleum.
Is there any article about this?
You know, I was wondering about this. What other kinds of surfaces are self-disinfecting?
Wouldn't mind it
I want a full Cooper phone now.
Signal and dents and discoloration be damned.
This is what I want now. More than anything.
The world would smell like coins, since copper reacts with the fat you have on your skin
NileRed?
Yup.
At last, I now have an excuse for eating bacon everyday
Did someone say bacon?
You didn't before? What kind of sad world do you live in?
Heartburn
And people who just don't like bacon
But bacon is life; bacon is love.
We're friends
As a member of PETA(People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) I think bacon should be mandatory in at least 2 of your 3 square meals a day.
Oh, so that's how it "disinfects". I guess I shouldn't have laughed at those dudes hoarding old pennies a decade ago.
Pennyworld
Probably not though
Clearly you have no idea how much copper costs and that it is an already stretched resource.
Awe, you're assuming anyone will do anything. How sweet.
Brilliant!
That is the healthiest way to prepare punk
We're not that smart
No coppers to expensive for that
The hospital I worked at had brass door knobs and push plates. It was built in 1890.
I hope you're right!
You haven't looked at the price of copper lately, have you? That stuff's too valuable for building wires and circuit boards out of to waste on doorknobs.
It is probably cheaper to keep buildings things as we do now, just clean them more
Try nanoparticles instead.
Nanomachines, Son!
Even the humans themselves...wait...oh no...
SCP-217 HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT
I'd love that to happen!
You're assuming people are going to learn from this. I find that highly likely.
How does copper and brass disinfect?
in the future everything is chrome
No it won't. WAY too expensive. Places won't pay for it.
"probably", sureee
I like brass