And if they have a multiverse there is still hope (at least hope for the optimistic ones) for a similar future without having to be bound to that exact timeline
Frequently, books and movies set in the future will have, As part of their past, events that have already failed to occur during our present or our past.
I feel like by this logic anything written in the present cannot be confirmed as fiction unless you can prove that it didn't actually happen.
Fiction is fiction, unless it's written as an accurate account of the past and labeled as non-fiction then it's fiction. Even if it's a story written about characters that actually existed from the past, set in the correct time and place. If the plot is made up of events that didn't happen then it's fiction.
Actually, they cannot be considered as anything BUT fiction until their respective dates pass, and their "predictions" about the future actually come true.
Sometimes the times it's disproved is funny. I was watching some old sci fi movie the other day, and it was like "it's the year 2005, and humanity has colonized Mars." So many science fiction movies are way overly optimistic about the pace of progress.
You could technically make a movie about santa resurrecting dinosaurs to take over mars in the year 3203 and call it non fiction. If they ask for proof pull out the innocent till proven guilty card
Yes, if there are infinite multiverses there will be one where each work of fiction is real and actually happening. If it's infinite literally everything happens somewhere.
Right, but in an infinite multiverse, it could have a limiting possibility. For instance, there could be an infinite multiverse, but they must all follow the same laws of physics, so harry potter and the xmen don't exist in any possible universe, which is what most people say when they say "not every option exists."
Technology so advanced it would be indispensable from magic could be a potential explanation to other universe having people with X-men powers and flying on brooms
Sure, although there is no way to confirm that the law of physics apply the same in other universes. (I am not saying that it's possible) only saying that there is a chance that physics work a bit different throughout the multiverse
That reminds me of my English Composition class back in highschool when we were writing informative papers. A kid asked if he could cite the bible, and the teacher responded "no, you can't quite works of fiction"
it is absolutely fiction even if it would come to pass as described, just as stories based on on past events (like retelling History) are works of fiction.
And if they have a multiverse there is still hope (at least hope for the optimistic ones) for a similar future without having to be bound to that exact timeline
I think future fiction is fiction until proven true.
Unless we prove an infinite multiverse exists, we can still consider it all fiction since nothing would happen exactly like in a book or movie.
History books cannot be confirmed as a history because we can never know 100% what actually happened.
False: Idiocracy is a documentary.
And if they have a multiverse there is still hope (at least hope for the optimistic ones) for a similar future without having to be bound to that exact timeline
Same with those that take place on another galaxy, such as star wars.
Frequently, books and movies set in the future will have, As part of their past, events that have already failed to occur during our present or our past.
Caves of Steel by Asiimov comes to mind
Fiction means someone invented it
I feel like by this logic anything written in the present cannot be confirmed as fiction unless you can prove that it didn't actually happen.
Fiction is fiction, unless it's written as an accurate account of the past and labeled as non-fiction then it's fiction. Even if it's a story written about characters that actually existed from the past, set in the correct time and place. If the plot is made up of events that didn't happen then it's fiction.
"Makes book based in 2100 that has zombies taking over space x and going to other universes with space x's vast technology to inhabit of worlds"
That's why its called speculative fiction, you genius.
I agree 1984 is becoming a non fiction book.
Hahaha this is so smart but so stupid ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚
Future birthplace of Captain James T. Kirk
Sad thing is most futuristic movies couldn't even predict anything like a smartphone (Not mobile phone). That's why they must be considered as fiction
Depends on the backstory. Star Trek is already confirmed as fiction, because the Eugenic Wars didn't happen.
I'll have what he's having
Back to the future
Almost...
To quote one of the most underrated shows, Futurama: You can't prove it won't happen
What
A prophecy is fictional until it is not.
For sure
That gave me a brain shiver.
Sword art online ðŸ˜
That's why science fiction is popular
Nope. Fiction until proven real. Otherwise you can't have atheism. And that's not ok for some of these folks. Lol
Actually, they cannot be considered as anything BUT fiction until their respective dates pass, and their "predictions" about the future actually come true.
OP said confirmed, not considered. Which is perfectly accurate.
Yeah this makes more sense
Orwell was considered a futorian until 1985.
Unless they break the laws of physics
But the laws of physics are never entirely proven as true
especially since some believe that different multiverses could possibly have different laws of physics.
I'll take the 6 sigma 99.99999% accurate tests of the laws of physics as enough for my sakes lol
According to The Three-Body Problem, physics doesn't exists because it's so inconsistent
Only if the laws of physics broke on their own.
Sometimes the times it's disproved is funny. I was watching some old sci fi movie the other day, and it was like "it's the year 2005, and humanity has colonized Mars." So many science fiction movies are way overly optimistic about the pace of progress.
You could technically make a movie about santa resurrecting dinosaurs to take over mars in the year 3203 and call it non fiction. If they ask for proof pull out the innocent till proven guilty card
So this science fiction story I made up myself that takes place thousand years in the future is for now only classed as a science story?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
Except they're works of fiction.
Yes I also believe everything I read.
Speculative fiction
In this case, books and movies set in alternate universes cannot be proven fiction unless the infinite multiverse theory is proven false also
I mean, by infinite multiverse theory, you could even argue fiction set in our universe may actually be non-fiction from another universe.
Yes, if there are infinite multiverses there will be one where each work of fiction is real and actually happening. If it's infinite literally everything happens somewhere.
Infinite combinations doesn't mean every option exists, there are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, but none of them are 3
Very good example
While this is true, the example doesn't really work here as it's set to be specifically between 1 and 2, limiting the possibilities
Right, but in an infinite multiverse, it could have a limiting possibility. For instance, there could be an infinite multiverse, but they must all follow the same laws of physics, so harry potter and the xmen don't exist in any possible universe, which is what most people say when they say "not every option exists."
Technology so advanced it would be indispensable from magic could be a potential explanation to other universe having people with X-men powers and flying on brooms
Except that those universes don't have technology, they're just born with superpowers
Sure, although there is no way to confirm that the law of physics apply the same in other universes. (I am not saying that it's possible) only saying that there is a chance that physics work a bit different throughout the multiverse
I agree there's likely no way to know for sure, just saying that the 1,2,3 example is a really good one.
In another universe instead of going 123 they go 132
In that case 2 is the same as our three, and there is an infinity of numbers between 1 and 3, but none of them are 2.
In other words, even in an infinity of universes, logical impossibilities cannot exist.
In yet other words, even with infinite universes, there is an even larger set of universes that cannot exist.
As a mathematician it hurts me when people dont know how infinitity works.
As a person it hurts me when people punch me.
Same
There could only be finite universes, or even just one alternative universe, but you'd have to explicitly disprove that universe.
Unless they have flashback which set in our days or past.
It's always fiction because it's made up by people even if it turns out to be true.
Thats what I tell my parents yet they insist the bible is non-fiction..
That reminds me of my English Composition class back in highschool when we were writing informative papers. A kid asked if he could cite the bible, and the teacher responded "no, you can't quite works of fiction"
He was fuming
The tagline of a Futurama episode was "You can't prove it won't happen".
it is absolutely fiction even if it would come to pass as described, just as stories based on on past events (like retelling History) are works of fiction.
It can if I wrote something that take place in 2025 and in my book I wrote "in 2020 africa exploded" it's a fiction
Same with Star Wars, it was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, anything could have happened and we wouldn't have known
And if they have a multiverse there is still hope (at least hope for the optimistic ones) for a similar future without having to be bound to that exact timeline