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The attitude of "we had it tough therefore so should you" is more damaging to social progress than any other agenda, amirite?

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That isn't what they're saying. The real attitude is "We had it tough, so you can overcome the adversity that you're dealing with too." You're confusing selfishness for promoting tenacity.

Lots of people are really petty and spiteful.

Some-Noname-idks avatar Some-Noname-idk Yeah You Are +8Reply

Older generations say they had it worse. Younger people have it better. Thats a good thing. It's called progress. My father grew up in a trailer in TN and was determined to do better than his father.

Framie1s avatar Framie1 Yeah You Are +7Reply
SnooStoriess avatar SnooStories Yeah You Are +2Reply
@SnooStories That's not necessarily true. A lot of people have harder lives now and vice versa.

Harder than they should by expectation. But better when comparing to a century ago maybe not a decade or two.

You're right that it doesn't make a distinction between necessary and unnecessary adversity, but on the whole it's not a terrible sentiment. Kids and young adults are stronger for having overcome adversity.

This is only an unpopular opinion to older folks. Any baby boomers complaining about the changes younger generations are pushing for should just be grateful for the leg up they had! They came of age at the best possible time and had advantages the rest of us never will.

@vcsandfeces This is only an unpopular opinion to older folks. Any baby boomers complaining about the changes younger...

See I disagree. I work with plenty of people in their mid 30s who have this opinion toward our juniors.

@Bf3247 See I disagree. I work with plenty of people in their mid 30s who have this opinion toward our juniors.

Ah, that I can see somewhat. Mid-30s are the people who graduated into the 2008 recession and got screwed. I'm a younger millennial (class of 2016) so I missed that experience, but I have friends who are that age and we sometimes have different opinions. But more when it comes to financial issues (like student loan forgiveness) and less so social issues (parental leave etc).

@Eastern-Spot2023 Aren't class of 2016 Gen z though?

I was born in ‘94, last birth year of the millennials was ‘96 according to most sources.

Apartlavishnesss avatar Apartlavishness Yeah You Are +5Reply
@Eastern-Spot2023 Aren't class of 2016 Gen z though?

That would be gen alpha. People born in 2016 I mean. Gen z are people born all the way to early 2010s.

lazar94s avatar lazar94 Yeah You Are +4Reply
@vcsandfeces This is only an unpopular opinion to older folks. Any baby boomers complaining about the changes younger...

I don't think this has anything to do with any specific generation, it has more to do with people who used to be working class and feel like it's unfair that other people have it "easier" while they didn't have that opportunity themselves.

Well I mean yeah I guess because it's literally not progress lol

For a lot of the Boomers and Xers… they didn't really have it all that tough as young adults, their parents were just assholes.

I just paid off my student loans. If they announced loan forgiveness in my country tomorrow I'd be annoyed (could have bought something else). But ultimately I'd be happy because that means we're progressing.

Kionixs avatar Kionix Yeah You Are +6Reply

Anyone with this attitude should turn down all medication that was invented during their lifetime.

There is some value in struggling, but it shouldn't be needless.

@Bf3247 There is some value in struggling, but it shouldn't be needless.

Struggle should not be made intentionally. There is value but if it was caused because someone was bitter it halts progress.

The way I see it is if the next guy in line has an easier time than I did, then I must be doing something damn right.

potatobunnys avatar potatobunny Yeah You Are +5Reply

I want to leave the world a better place than I left it has also vanished. Now it's all just about hoarding properties and hating on young people.

@teknogreek I want to leave the world a better place than I left it has also vanished. Now it's all just about hoarding...

The other day I was speaking to a woman who bought land in my state (she's an out of stater) and has done nothing with it for 30 years. Just letting it sit there while locals struggle to find land and housing!
She bought it just because she could. Literally holding on to it until she dies. Then her kids will inherit it.

Not unpopular opinion

The problem is when people say what OP did but in reality, what they mean is that they don't want to have to work for something and just want it given to them.

If we consistently applied that attitude most people would still be living in shacks raising no less than 6 kids.

1440807101s avatar 1440807101 Yeah You Are +5Reply

This and equality without equal accountability

Tldfonats avatar Tldfonat Yeah You Are +4Reply

"we had it tough therefore so should you"

I dont think anyone on the planet has ever stated this....What I see often is someone sharing the lessons they learned doing it differently with someone who usually feels it should be way easier for them to do--then complains when they do it differently expecting same results and claim its 'broken' now. Never seen anyone want it to be hard just because-more explaining its hard because its of value and there is necessary effort for the reward.

Kasies avatar Kasie Yeah You Are +4Reply

The military in a nut shell

Openeyess avatar Openeyes Yeah You Are +4Reply

I believe my folks wanted to better than their parents… by being worse than them

There are situations where the sentiment is nonsense, but there are also situations qhere the sentiment is perfeclty valid

Pheniz21s avatar Pheniz21 Yeah You Are +4Reply

I make solid income as an entrepreneur but I work 60-80 hours a week, every week. I hope to be able to set my children up for success better than my parents did but only if they're willing to work for it. If they are lazy or don't take the financial advice we give them, they can live paycheck to paycheck well into their 30s like I did.

You're preaching to the choir OP

Cheytuflyas avatar Cheytuflya Yeah You Are +4Reply

Yep. We're all connected, and we should celebrate improvements in the health of people we may not even know, because it means we will be healthier too when we are in their situation.

The people who say "we had it tough and so should you" usually didn't have it very tough at all.

Apartlavishnesss avatar Apartlavishness Yeah You Are +3Reply
@Milkzey They usually just had it tough mentally.

not really people who say such shortsighted and straight up idiotic things only suffered under there own lack of brain matter

Some-Noname-idks avatar Some-Noname-idk Yeah You Are +4Reply

I agree, however, and a big however, you cannot turn into a cry baby victim and assassin and assume responsibility

Mytokhondrias avatar Mytokhondria Yeah You Are +3Reply

Whatever happened to 'I don't want my kids to suffer like I did'?

Achilles982s avatar Achilles982 Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Achilles982 Whatever happened to 'I don't want my kids to suffer like I did'?

My husband and I raised one son completely opposite of your up bringing. We were kids of the 80s/90s and our parents were checked out, didn't support us emotionally, treated kids like free labor or just an annoyance!
We made sure our son had a safe space at home, we respected his boundaries, we talk openly about mental health.
I often wonder about people in their 60s and older. They have so many unresolved issues. Many tend to want to see others suffer.

@Achilles982 Whatever happened to 'I don't want my kids to suffer like I did'?

I tell my kid all the time I hope she has it easier than I did, 50+ hrs a week of grueling physical labor made me surface level "successful" ( bought my first house young, had a savings account with money in it, ya know stuff many late teens/early 20s don't get)

But it came at a high cost, I never got to be a teen/young adult, simply a slave with a body weathered before its time and nobody should have to do that level of nonsense for basic survival and comfort

It NEEDS to be easier, the price of admission is simply too high

KilljoyXs avatar KilljoyX Yeah You Are +4Reply
@Achilles982 Whatever happened to 'I don't want my kids to suffer like I did'?

They got bitter because the kids we're not grateful and also because those kids decided that was bs.

@Achilles982 Whatever happened to 'I don't want my kids to suffer like I did'?

My parents are horrible with money. I never expected to inherit anything from them. After my divorce, any child support (and SSDI because ex is…uh…not remotely stable) has all gone into a UTMA. That and my ROTH will pay for college. Child will inherit the home.
I will not, to the best of my ability leave my child financially destitute in their 20's. I do expect grades to reflect the inheritance, and for my child to have to be able to sustain themselves after college. But I, barring medical conditions of my own, will refuse to set child up to spend 30 years to become financially stable, like my parents did me.

While true on one side of the coin, the flip side is that you grow on many levels when things are hard.

Boomers talking to millenials be like: we had it tough well actually we did not but you should

This is a two way street.

You should not wish hardships on other because you experienced it. That is not the point of human evolvement.

You also should not diminish the older generation for what they did. Yes people have become more soft when compared to 50 years ago. If they say that, it does not make them ‘boomer assholes'

It's like my coworker bitching about the concept of student loan forgiveness and free college. Like dude, yea it sucks you already paid yours off, but why can you not be happy for those people getting help and the future generations that wouldn't be hamstringed by unnecessary debt?

lazar94s avatar lazar94 Yeah You Are +1Reply
@lazar94 It's like my coworker bitching about the concept of student loan forgiveness and free college. Like dude, yea it...

Because that isn't what we are taught. Observe a full year of your life and think have you ever wished harm to someone indirectly. Like your co-worker.

It's just boomer envy, isn't it? "Kids these days have it so easy, why, back in my day " and then brings up a bunch of trauma they had to go through that they can't quite bring themselves to be happy for other people not to have experienced.

Manualhams avatar Manualham Yeah You Are +1Reply

Emergency numbers should be illegal, because it is unfair to the ones who died without help.

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