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Dumbledore would defeat Gandalf with ease, amirite?

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Guy fought an ancient demon for ten days and destroyed a mountain in the process, but sure, he'd lose to the guy who made a big water ball.

synthsexuals avatar synthsexual Yeah You Are +7Reply

One didn't even make it to the end of the franchise they are from and the other is immortal.

If he's such a strong wizard, then why didn't he fight properly against Orks and such?

He wasn't allowed to, Manwë only gave him the mission to inspire the free peoples to fight against Sauron - ever since the War of Wrath in the first age the Ainur were more or less forbidden from directly intervening in the affairs of Middle Earth. He did kill the Balrog though (another Maia) because it wasn't supposed to still exist in Middle Earth.

stevnev88s avatar stevnev88 Yeah You Are +4Reply
@stevnev88 If he's such a strong wizard, then why didn't he fight properly against Orks and such? He wasn't allowed to...

Sooooooo…….he can fight against them but he can't fight properly against them? Basically he's allowed to fight them with a fraction of his power?

@Prettydotty Sooooooo…….he can fight against them but he can't fight properly against them? Basically he's allowed to fight...

Pretty much, the same goes for Saruman and the other wizards - but Saruman was obviously corrupted (he was a Maia of Aulë, same as Sauron which may be why). That is why Gandalf was sent back even though he died once, whereas Saruman is blown away to the east after he dies (shown in the book but not in the film) forever to walk as an impotent spirit unable to interact with the physical world.

Framie1s avatar Framie1 Yeah You Are +3Reply

I mean, Dumbledore is alright...I guess. But yeah call me back after Dumbledore beats a deamon of smoke and flame older that the world, while in full free fall. Also sword, very underated. Even wizards are weak to sword.

freq432s avatar freq432 Yeah You Are +4Reply

Gandalf is basically a demigod and blablabla

Admitting you've lost that early is a bold strategy

lazar94s avatar lazar94 Yeah You Are +4Reply
@lazar94 Gandalf is basically a demigod and blablabla Admitting you've lost that early is a bold strategy

I didn't admit I've lost. It's just what I hear all the time but Gandalf has yet to prove that

@Prettydotty I didn't admit I've lost. It's just what I hear all the time but Gandalf has yet to prove that

Hes a demigod and dumbledore isnt, so its pretty open and shut. Best of luck with the cope though

Isn't everyone in HP universe useless without their wand? Except for that one guy stirring coffee without a wand.

You do know Gandalf helped create the world by singing, right?

@Prettydotty That makes him sound even weaker to be honest

His older than time and created the world. How exactly does it sound weak? The guy is from a race of godlike beings.

Well Gandalf isn't using his full power bcz if he does, he might turn evil. More power usage means greater tendency to become evil. He can hypothetically create armies like Saruman and Sauron if he gave in to meddling.

Mcgee0s avatar Mcgee0 Yeah You Are +3Reply

I mean yeah he says the meme "abracadabra" and Gandalf is dead, lol.

[inb4 I spelled it wrong]

Some-Noname-idks avatar Some-Noname-idk Yeah You Are +3Reply

He nearly rivaled sauron in power. He's bascally an angel in tolkiens universe. There's nothing a frail old man could do against him. Didn't dumblemore get killed by a nerd that got bullied by a bigger nerd?

Would Gandalf have the same restrictions that he has while in middle earth, or would he have access to his povers with no restrictions?

In the latter case, I highly doubt Dumbledore could do anything.

Framie1s avatar Framie1 Yeah You Are +2Reply

The problem is, Gandalf is a wizard between regular people and elves etc.

Dumbledore is a good wizard in a world of witches and wizards.

Dumbledore is more like a wise guy living in a universe where everyone does magic.

Bf3247s avatar Bf3247 Yeah You Are +1Reply
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