I grew up in North Texas. I lived in Arizona for a year. Everyone kept telling me how terrible the Summers were. It was just as hot as North Texas but a fraction as humid. When you sweat, you don't get muggy. It just dries off and actually does the thing it needs to do to keep you cool.
It has nothing to do with clothes, it has everything to do with climate.
I mean sweating is supposed to help cool you, and it definitely works if there's a nice breeze to help the water evaporate off of your skin. If it's stuck to you and the air is humid, it doesn't work
Not only does it work! It's actually the best body temperature control mechanism for dry hot areas in the world. Humans are more adapted to run in hot dry areas then any species in the world including camels.
Visiting Arizona from Minnesota was amazing to me, to find out how sweat actually does it's job in the right conditions. I was fine in over 100°F temps, whereas I start melting at 85° up north because it's never not humid around here and instead of sweat evaporating you just marinate in it.
As a regular nudist: No. Sweat, especially when dried up on the skin, always is sticky and itchy, and you always want to wash it off no matter the circumstances or the (non-) clothing.
I did 30 minutes on the stair stepper at the gym yesterday after working out and let me tell you that 10 minutes in i was sweating profusely and it felt great even with my gym clothes on.
That's why you wear very loose clothing that shields you from the sun. You stay cool from basically being in the shade plus the breeze helps cool you, too.
Wind is so much worse than just temperature. It is fairly easy to adjust for cold temperature, you put on some extra layers and stick near to heat sources and you will be fine. With wind you need to cover every piece of exposed skin. It won't matter how bundled your chest is, the wind will target the one piece of exposed skin at your neck, your ankles or your cuff and make you suffer for it.
I live in Michigan, very similar weather to Canada but so much wetter. Today we have a real feel temperature of 55°f with off and on rain and fog. The humidity is 88%.
We often have a humidity this high even in the winter months when the temperature for the state is around 20°f but that isn't the lowest it gets especially in our upper peninsula. In fact I just looked up humidity stats for Michigan and it's often still really high in winter. We rarely dip below 60% humidity.
It's more about the amount of water near you and the weather fluctuation than the temperature. Inside the houses are always dry in the winter due to heating though. I do live in one of the more humid areas of Michigan because my county is right on lake Michigan.
As far as sweating goes, it's the worst when you have to quickly get ready in the morning and are sweaty from sleeping in 100 blankets to get you through the cold nights then you go outside; especially if it is just above the temp that you'd bundle up for so the sweat is exposed to the air. It feels so cold so fast that it gives me super goosebumps; the kind so intense that they make you feel like you instantly have to poop.
That's Michigan though, and our weather is annoyingly unpredictable so we never know when it'll be 50°f or -10°f. We also randomly get weather that blows in from the north pole once in a while. Once it got as low as the -20°f range in my area; the record for the coldest ever recorded in the state is -51°f.
Correct. And when it's full of freezing fog because the temperature dropped so fast the water didn't have time to dry out of the air, it hurts quite a bit as you get covered in rime and hoarfrost before the numbness sets in. And then, even if you get warm enough to melt the frost, you're still wet and getting colder, faster as you dab dry. That's humid cold.
Dry cold isn't actually any better, but humid cold is very much a thing and it sucks. I figured Canadians would know about it being that we share the lakes.
I live in Canada too & grew up in Scotland, humidity is like a measure of how much water vapour is in the air, growing up in Scotland, wet colds are super common & BC is very prone to wet colds too.
Other provinces definitely have more dry colds but it does exist.
I live in the Midwest and winter can definitely be humid. Easiest way to compare dry vs humid in the winter is shoveling heavy snow vs light airy snow.
In the OPs "story" you are naked. If you get into the teens Celsius then you risk hypothermia and death. I'm fairly certain that any temperature low enough to kill you is "cold".
That's me right now in LA! Was 54F and sunny yesterday morning. I was walking back to my hotel after returning my rental car, shorts and a t-shirt and locals were bundled up like it was winter. (I'm from Ohio)
I mean what temperature are you referring to as "cold"? Because truly cold air (like below freezing) can't be humid…. It literally can't hold moisture.
There's no such thing as "negative 4 degrees with 90% humidity" that's physically impossible
I think what you mean is there's a negligible amount of humidity when it's cold where you live. It's demonstrably false that there's no humidity when it's cold.
I dressed for a summer baseball game in San Francisco in the same clothes I'd wear on a winter night in Atlanta. Humid cold feels like it soaks into your bones, it's no joke
Unless you're extra bundled up for the cold, and then you had to be physically active enough that you sweat, which then freezes when you slow back down... :(
Not really. I lived in the tropics for years and wore very few clothes. It's somehow less comfortable to swear with nothing to help wick the moisture away.
I think arid climates are an even worse example: the clothes actually help the sweat dry, so they cool you down. They also keep the sun from directly hitting you (making you hotter and more burnt).
I heard they had another layer underneath the dark cloth (would make sense, since you don't want hot cloth against your skin), and it actually created a chimney effect between the two layers.
Or it might be that the specific indigo dye they use actually doesn't absorb much of the light frequencies that carry the most heat from the sun (and are invisible, hence why they would still be dark).
It's the thinness of the material. The black absorbs the heat wind dissipates it. White allows too much ir through. The black keeps you cooler than white.
No magic invisible dyes
When we worked at farms we would start early close to sunrise, there would be lots of work in the sun. When first sweat comes in the day it's not pleasant but during noon when wind blows, trust me it's so relaxing on the sweaty body when it evaporates. But again evenings make you kill for a good bath.
I don't think so, have you ever been sweaty on your face and head? Doesn't feel good. And as a guy that's been sweaty at the beach while not wearing a shirt, it still doesn't feel that good.
Sweating is an excellent built-in mechanism humans have for cooling our bodies down in hot temperatures - as long as it's a dry heat.
In humid areas, sweat just makes you sticky and miserable. It can't evaporate off your skin and into the air because the air is already so saturated with water. I don't mind heat and sweating, as long as it's a dry heat.
Not gonna lie, I work out at this gym that's basically in a sauna and can work out without a shirt and sweating feels somehow cleansing or something lol. I don't know how to describe it but it actually feels like I'm getting a workout.
I wouldn't know, I can't really sweat at all. I just get incredibly itchy whenever I'm too warm, makes me want to scratch my skin off until I can splash cold water on my head and neck
No way. You ever had a bunch of leaves and grass and twigs and dirt stick to your moist body?
I grew up in North Texas. I lived in Arizona for a year. Everyone kept telling me how terrible the Summers were. It was just as hot as North Texas but a fraction as humid. When you sweat, you don't get muggy. It just dries off and actually does the thing it needs to do to keep you cool.
It has nothing to do with clothes, it has everything to do with climate.
I wouldn't have said great but surely it would be less uncomfortable...
I mean sweating is supposed to help cool you, and it definitely works if there's a nice breeze to help the water evaporate off of your skin. If it's stuck to you and the air is humid, it doesn't work
Not only does it work! It's actually the best body temperature control mechanism for dry hot areas in the world. Humans are more adapted to run in hot dry areas then any species in the world including camels.
Visiting Arizona from Minnesota was amazing to me, to find out how sweat actually does it's job in the right conditions. I was fine in over 100°F temps, whereas I start melting at 85° up north because it's never not humid around here and instead of sweat evaporating you just marinate in it.
Downside is five months of nose bleeds and cracked dry skin in the winter due to the 20% relative humidity.
As a regular nudist: No. Sweat, especially when dried up on the skin, always is sticky and itchy, and you always want to wash it off no matter the circumstances or the (non-) clothing.
What's a regular nudist
A nudist that poops a normal amount
It feels good and smells nice when fresh, it only turns icky once it dries
Surely that's based on diet
I have hiperhidrosis and I cannot stand not having clothes to absorb the sweat. Living before clothes were invented would have been a nightmare
I did 30 minutes on the stair stepper at the gym yesterday after working out and let me tell you that 10 minutes in i was sweating profusely and it felt great even with my gym clothes on.
we've had clothes for longer then evolution human'd us. so rethink that one.
That's why you wear very loose clothing that shields you from the sun. You stay cool from basically being in the shade plus the breeze helps cool you, too.
You really need to explore nudity more.
And yes, it can feel nice lol.
No, not a nudist. Well, not outside my house anyway.
I've been outside and sweating without a shirt, and that was still awful...
Maybe you had to commit 100%
Go nude or go home
I have, it's mildly better than with clothes, but I still prefer a dry breeze over 100% humidity.
Sweat in my eyes playing football (soccer) in just shorts though...
Still feels great. The awesome thing about clothes. We can take ‘em awf!
It's amazing to me that we never evolved not to sweat while wearing clothes.
With a dry breeze? Oh yes.
Hot humid breeze? Just kill me.
Cold humid breeze? See above.
We have different definitions of cold, cause theres no humidity when it's cold imo.
It's called "clammy".
Assuming you've never been in southern states during winter? Humidity and cold weather are a nasty combo lol.
Come to north Florida and stay near the beach I. The winter. 55 degrees, 100 percent humidity and a 10-15 mph beach breeze and man your freezing.
I would have never believed that sentence until I moved here
Wind is so much worse than just temperature. It is fairly easy to adjust for cold temperature, you put on some extra layers and stick near to heat sources and you will be fine. With wind you need to cover every piece of exposed skin. It won't matter how bundled your chest is, the wind will target the one piece of exposed skin at your neck, your ankles or your cuff and make you suffer for it.
DC is still humid in the winter - nothing like being cold AND sweating under your coat st the same time.
I live in Michigan, very similar weather to Canada but so much wetter. Today we have a real feel temperature of 55°f with off and on rain and fog. The humidity is 88%.
We often have a humidity this high even in the winter months when the temperature for the state is around 20°f but that isn't the lowest it gets especially in our upper peninsula. In fact I just looked up humidity stats for Michigan and it's often still really high in winter. We rarely dip below 60% humidity.
It's more about the amount of water near you and the weather fluctuation than the temperature. Inside the houses are always dry in the winter due to heating though. I do live in one of the more humid areas of Michigan because my county is right on lake Michigan.
As far as sweating goes, it's the worst when you have to quickly get ready in the morning and are sweaty from sleeping in 100 blankets to get you through the cold nights then you go outside; especially if it is just above the temp that you'd bundle up for so the sweat is exposed to the air. It feels so cold so fast that it gives me super goosebumps; the kind so intense that they make you feel like you instantly have to poop.
That's Michigan though, and our weather is annoyingly unpredictable so we never know when it'll be 50°f or -10°f. We also randomly get weather that blows in from the north pole once in a while. Once it got as low as the -20°f range in my area; the record for the coldest ever recorded in the state is -51°f.
Maybe not where you live, which I assume isn't cold or By the ocean.
You've never experienced a cold fog?
I live in Canada, cold means the water is frozen and you get frostbite in 5min.
Isn't there a joke that whenever weather and cold is talked about, a Canadian will pop out of nowhere and explain to you what "real" cold is?
You don't want to be that guy.
Unless you have a friend that grew up in Alaska <eye roll>
Same with heat and Texas
More like heat and the entire southwest USA
same with traffic and every city
Atlanta has entered the chat.
OK but that one is true
If you live somewhere where you can regularly get frostbite in 5 minutes, then I don't mind you complaining
I wouldn't either.
Although there is also something a bit odd when you will only accept to say it's cold out at the point where bits of your body are falling off.
Almost as if there was a weird sense of pride involved, when you tell people "it's not cold" when they tell you it is.
Yeah, we are worse than people who do corss-fit
You guys are also the best, so it's ok.
Correct. And when it's full of freezing fog because the temperature dropped so fast the water didn't have time to dry out of the air, it hurts quite a bit as you get covered in rime and hoarfrost before the numbness sets in. And then, even if you get warm enough to melt the frost, you're still wet and getting colder, faster as you dab dry. That's humid cold.
Dry cold isn't actually any better, but humid cold is very much a thing and it sucks. I figured Canadians would know about it being that we share the lakes.
I'm from Canada too and there is definitely a damp cold. That will make your bones cold.
I live in Canada too & grew up in Scotland, humidity is like a measure of how much water vapour is in the air, growing up in Scotland, wet colds are super common & BC is very prone to wet colds too.
Other provinces definitely have more dry colds but it does exist.
I live in the Midwest and winter can definitely be humid. Easiest way to compare dry vs humid in the winter is shoveling heavy snow vs light airy snow.
The really dry snow just needs a broom!
To us cold means under 25 Celsius :)
In the OPs "story" you are naked. If you get into the teens Celsius then you risk hypothermia and death. I'm fairly certain that any temperature low enough to kill you is "cold".
If you're sweating in the cold, you better be on your way to shelter.
You definitely can. I live in Florida and in winter the air is humid but the temperature is cold. It's really not fun
I flew into Tampa in February in shorts and a golf shirt, it was 65 degrees and one guy catching a cab was in a full-length parka and a scarf.
That's me right now in LA! Was 54F and sunny yesterday morning. I was walking back to my hotel after returning my rental car, shorts and a t-shirt and locals were bundled up like it was winter. (I'm from Ohio)
If 54F is 12ºC its actually very cold in my country standard.
Yes 12C. For me that's my comfortable range. I've spent so much time in ice rinks that 75F (24C) is uncomfortably hot.
My country reach 35C in the most hot days of summer. 24C is a nice and confortable temperature for us LOL.
"Winter" in Florida LOL
Lmao dude it's real and it blows my mind
I see it every year. I'm like "it's 60 out and you look like you're ready for the Alps."
I met a guy who moved from Texas in college, he said "yeah I hear it gets cold here" I said "you better buy a space suit fam."
I mean what temperature are you referring to as "cold"? Because truly cold air (like below freezing) can't be humid…. It literally can't hold moisture.
There's no such thing as "negative 4 degrees with 90% humidity" that's physically impossible
I think what you mean is there's a negligible amount of humidity when it's cold where you live. It's demonstrably false that there's no humidity when it's cold.
This is not a matter of opinion. There absolutely can be humidity when it is cold.
I dressed for a summer baseball game in San Francisco in the same clothes I'd wear on a winter night in Atlanta. Humid cold feels like it soaks into your bones, it's no joke
Don't come.to the PNW when there's a cold snap.
I'd take the prairies -25°C over Vancouver at -10
Those winds off the Frasier River cut to the bone!
I lived in Richmond for a few months years ago, I found it more mild than where I am now. The great lakes make for some really cold winters.
Can't speak to Central Canada in winter, but the lakes make it miserable in the summer.
All my family from back east complain about winters in Vancouver. One coined the phrase "perishingly cold".
This is science, your opinion is irrelevant and wrong.
Lmao, come visit Norway and I'll give you a bit of ice cold humidity. Even the slightest crack in your clothing will make you mortal.
Not so bad in the north though, -25-30° celsius is OK as long as it's dry. I'll take that before -5° in Oslo any effin' day
with a cold humid breeze you probably aren't sweating to begin with
Unless you're extra bundled up for the cold, and then you had to be physically active enough that you sweat, which then freezes when you slow back down... :(
yeah but itt OP doesn't have clothes
*looks at ceiling in confusion*
Well I'll be damned, it does say "gullible".
Oh no, my kidneys.
Get out of my damn house!
Santa?
It's me, Santa
Har har
Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.
Why are there girls on the ceiling?
I work outside, and somewhere in the 60s with high humidity is the worst. You can feel clammy cold and stuffy warm at the same time. F that
But is it better naked?
I second this.
Considering we evolved on Savannahs I would guess we hit more of the first and second issues.
How far above am I supposed to be seeing?
Not really. I lived in the tropics for years and wore very few clothes. It's somehow less comfortable to swear with nothing to help wick the moisture away.
I think arid climates are an even worse example: the clothes actually help the sweat dry, so they cool you down. They also keep the sun from directly hitting you (making you hotter and more burnt).
Look at Beduins wearing full length black outfits. How?
I never completely understood that to be honest.
I heard they had another layer underneath the dark cloth (would make sense, since you don't want hot cloth against your skin), and it actually created a chimney effect between the two layers.
Or it might be that the specific indigo dye they use actually doesn't absorb much of the light frequencies that carry the most heat from the sun (and are invisible, hence why they would still be dark).
It's the thinness of the material. The black absorbs the heat wind dissipates it. White allows too much ir through. The black keeps you cooler than white.
No magic invisible dyes
Maybe, but i'd wager my nuts that the benefits of clothes outweight the pleasure of bare ass sweating
Not if you have Grover's Disease, and that ain't got nothing to with Sesame Street my friend.
Until it starts making you itch because it's running down your body
Yes, but the aftermath is annoying. You're just sticky and dirty and it's annoying. Plus you have this small layer of salt all over your skin
And also probably before antiperspirant deodorant was invented 😆
When we worked at farms we would start early close to sunrise, there would be lots of work in the sun. When first sweat comes in the day it's not pleasant but during noon when wind blows, trust me it's so relaxing on the sweaty body when it evaporates. But again evenings make you kill for a good bath.
You would still feel sticky and would smell terrible, I don't see what's so great about that.
The human body has too many folds, flaps, and crevices for sweating to be comfortable
maybe the American body...
give me a hot 90 degree day and I'll bask in that 120 degree vehicle when I get in.
you mean when people used to wear animal skins and tree barks/leaves?
Finished with the gym, arm sweat felt great and cooling.
Shirt and pants sweat, euugghhh.
Sweating feels great in arid climates. Florida not so much (with or without clothes).
I don't think so, have you ever been sweaty on your face and head? Doesn't feel good. And as a guy that's been sweaty at the beach while not wearing a shirt, it still doesn't feel that good.
Sweating is an excellent built-in mechanism humans have for cooling our bodies down in hot temperatures - as long as it's a dry heat.
In humid areas, sweat just makes you sticky and miserable. It can't evaporate off your skin and into the air because the air is already so saturated with water. I don't mind heat and sweating, as long as it's a dry heat.
...Did you somehow forget about still being sticky, wet, susceptible to temperature changes, and so on? Being naked doesn't solve any of these issues
Not to mention, has OP never sweat without their clothes on..?
Sticky, and slippery at once even
Have you ever had sex? You get real sweaty and you're usually not in your clothes. It's gross
Sweat is the best part about sex
Speak for yourself
The primal nature makes it not-gross to me
Disagree. Being wet and sticky isn't fun after you're done doing whatever got you that way.
Well, that's the whole point of sweating. It's your body's evolutionary way of cooling you off.
I'd rather have a pair of skinny jeans on when it's hot & humid. Prevents chapping & a heat rash in the places I don't want to have a heat rash.
Not gonna lie, I work out at this gym that's basically in a sauna and can work out without a shirt and sweating feels somehow cleansing or something lol. I don't know how to describe it but it actually feels like I'm getting a workout.
I wouldn't know, I can't really sweat at all. I just get incredibly itchy whenever I'm too warm, makes me want to scratch my skin off until I can splash cold water on my head and neck