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# Non existence is more common than existence. An infinite number of things do not exist. The number of things in the universe that exist are finite, amirite?

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Since the universe is infinite the number of things inside the universe is also infinite. If you have infinite \$20 bills and infinite \$1 bills you have the same amount of money.

There being a finite amount of matter in the universe, it would follow that there must be a finite number of ways in which it could be arranged...granted this would be a very, very, very large number, and much larger than the number of things that exist, but still finite.

If you consider numbers real then no not really. There's an infinite amount of infinites between 1 and 2. I don't think you can get more infinite than infinite infinites. Infinite.

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@Framie1 If you consider numbers real then no not really. There's an infinite amount of infinites between 1 and 2. I don't...

Well, there are infinites that are bigger than others. Let's say the infinite amount of infinites between 1 and 3 is greater than the amount of infinites between 1 and 2.

This seem to further prove your point, but I'll argue that as we can't know how many things don't exist it's possible that that infinite is greater than any other.

@Tontonsflingueurs Well, there are infinites that are bigger than others. Let's say the infinite amount of infinites between 1 and 3...

That's not true. Infinity is infinity. There may be more variety (?) between 1 and 3 vs 1 and 2 but in terms of measuring the infinite amount of numbers between these two, it's the same. It's infinite.

@Bf3247 That's not true. Infinity is infinity. There may be more variety (?) between 1 and 3 vs 1 and 2 but in terms of...

But it's a bigger infinite, the gap is clearly bigger between 1 and 3 than 1 and 2, so it's a bigger infinite.

@Achilles982 But it's a bigger infinite, the gap is clearly bigger between 1 and 3 than 1 and 2, so it's a bigger infinite.

Infinite = infinite. Infinite + infinite = infinite. It's just infinite. Something can't be more infinite than Something else. Infinite is really less of a number, more of a factor.

"The number of things in the universe that exist are finite". That's a bold claim, any evidence to back that up?

If you believe in math and time, then the start of existence is "something" successfully dividing by zero.

While the opposite of zero is not infinity (non zero is), the paradox of existence is taking nothing and turning it into our universe.

See we can't physically do this, but it happened, it's stands to reason that our anything is possible and infinite truths can exist in our perception of existence. Since we can't exist but we do.

You could say we exist to find the limits of infinity.

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"Where do vanished objects go?"

"Into non-being, that is to say, everything"

"Nicely phrased"

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This of course assumes a finite universe, which in no way is a given.

I'm curious if you've considered the multiverse?

Or if that would even be plausible?

@Openeyes I'm curious if you've considered the multiverse? Or if that would even be plausible?

We have no evidence for other universes. We probably never will

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@Manualham But if it did, you see my point right?

But if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bike

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And We will each spend an infinite amount of time not existing on either end living

But the infinite list of things that do not exist don't actually "not-exist", as something must exist for a predicate to be applied to its existence.

Since the universe is ever expanding without end, the things that exist are also infinite. There are not a finite number of stars, and thing rotating around those stars.

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Yes. Universe is finite. But what's outside the universe's borders?

Let's assume that there's nothing.

But what it means if theres nothing?

An infinite void.

You can't run from infinity, in none of the theories.

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Humans have no idea what does or doesn't exist out in the far reaches of the universe. As Jules said "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

@Tontonsflingueurs Humans have no idea what does or doesn't exist out in the far reaches of the universe. As Jules said "the absence...

But also Alder's Razor:

Don't fret over things you don't have evidence for. If it matters, you'll find evidence for it.

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@SnooStories What a beautiful quote

Crazy enough, I first heard it on The Boondocks, used to explain a conspiracy.

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@Tontonsflingueurs Humans have no idea what does or doesn't exist out in the far reaches of the universe. As Jules said "the absence...

That doesn't really matter, though. No matter how many things exist, the amount of things that do not always exceedes that amount.

Even if the number of things that exist is infinite, there is a larger infinity of non-existent things.

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I don't think you're quite on point with this one...Non existence isn't the opposite state of existence of a thing, it is the absence of the existence of the thing. In most cases, unless it was something sought by humans, to state that it doesn't exist doesn't have any implications at all, i.e. it's just words.

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If the universe is infinite, how can the number of excising objects be finite?

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@Mytokhondria If the universe is infinite, how can the number of excising objects be finite?

If i remember correctly: Universe gets larger every second, but the number of atoms dont change.

Yes, universe is finite. We say its infinite because it keeps constantly getting larger

We do not know for a fact what exists out of range of our eyesight or our hearing. Considering the number of categories of things we know exist but are completely innumerable, multiplied by the innumerable items within those categories, likely the number of things in the universe is infinite as well.

The number of things that will exist is also theoretically infinite. The only unique thing in the entire universe is you, and me, baby

Could be an infinite set still, like how there are vastly fewer primes than derivatives, but still infinitely many primes