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We prize music and singers way too much in our society, amirite?

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Because humans like to communicate and share what they're passionate about.

If you created/achieved something, or had a major milestone in your life, would you just "enjoy it and shut up"? No, you'd want to experience it with people that you cared about.

I don't put too much emphasis on individual musicians or bands, but I absolutely prize music to a huge degree. I find it great for mood control, whether I want to get amped up, calm down, or just zone out.

@Bf3247 I don't put too much emphasis on individual musicians or bands, but I absolutely prize music to a huge degree. I...

I like to DJ as a hobbie and was mixing "For a Feeling" by Camelphat to end my session before going to work and got tingles induced by it, probably some mild MDMA flashbacks if that's a thing lol.

Professor-kaosss avatar Professor-kaoss Yeah You Are +1Reply

The only time I have an issue with it is when it's degenerates like Megan Thee Horse, Cardi B or Nicki Minge. Their fans are as awful as they are.

I would replace "singers" with politicians. The obsession with what certain politicians say that makes gullible people break laws and commit violent acts that ruin their own lives is absolutely insane. It's got to a point where it's a sexual obsession. I don't see fans of singers behaving that horribly.

because music is so universal (as you pointed out), people like to discuss music with each other. it's an easy way to relate to and identify with someone if you've never talked before.

There's so many musicians who aren't prized enough though. People think being a rockstar or musician is just a dope kickass lifestyle that everyone wants, but realistically professional musicians have to basically dedicate their lives to making music and a lot of less popular musicians barely make a living from it

Agreed. After figuring out all the musicians I look up to are assholes I've realized they aren't heroes. What's amazing about making millions singing and writing good music. There's nothing heroic about living your dream (no matter how good their music is).

This is a fairly uninformed statement (not an opinion) that can be debunked by the simple fact that there are millions of musicians on earth yet we only know the names of a few dozen at a time. Why are they not all being worshiped as you say? How does it negatively affect our society to appreciate a universal language such as music? Do you hate music or do you just hate that other people enjoy it?

I have a feeling you're either a failed musician yourself or you are some odd Grinch character whose misery is negatively correlated to the happiness of others. Which is it?

'Celebrities' of any avenue are prized to highly.

beachbums avatar beachbum Yeah You Are +3Reply

Music is a universal way to express ideas and emotion. Music is the only medium in which someone could put a whole message in a language I don't know a single word of and still get the idea behind the song. There are definitely people who are annoying about their taste in music but for the most part music is one of if not the best mediums of media.

@contextrip Music is a universal way to express ideas and emotion. Music is the only medium in which someone could put a whole...

If the song you're listening to is in a language you absolutely don't understand… there is nothing for you to glean besides the sound of the actual music in the song. And with that, I don't think you can comprehend the "idea" behind the song.

@opensofias If the song you're listening to is in a language you absolutely don't understand… there is nothing for you to...

This is one of the most naive statements I've ever read. Wow. You really either hate music or you know nothing about it.

@teknogreek This is one of the most naive statements I've ever read. Wow. You really either hate music or you know nothing about it.

How? I just said that you can't pretend to understand music thats in a language you do not understand.

@opensofias How? I just said that you can't pretend to understand music thats in a language you do not understand.

This is such a brain-dead take. One of my all time favourite musicians is a Korean musician called Parannoul, who makes emo/shoegaze. I deeply emotionally connect with his music because the raw emotion he conveys in his vocal performance and songwriting transcends the language barrier and so you can really feel his pain and anguish even if you don't know what he's saying.

@opensofias How? I just said that you can't pretend to understand music thats in a language you do not understand.

Actually, let's take a look at what you said here:

"there is nothing for you to glean besides the sound of the actual music in the song. And with that, I don't think you can comprehend the "idea" behind the song."

This is absurd. Lyrics aside, we can glean a lot about the structure (harmonic, rhythmic, and melodic) of the compositions, the type of instrumentation used, how it's being used, the methods by which it was recorded, the ideas behind how and why it was arranged, and we can glean emotional concepts from things like ascending and descending scales.

So my question is: why do you assume that studying a particular piece of music is only valid if the musician understands the language the lyrics of that song were written in? Did you learn this in music school and if so, which?

@opensofias If the song you're listening to is in a language you absolutely don't understand… there is nothing for you to...

Can you not get the "idea" behind a piece of classical music since it doesn't have words?

Some-Noname-idks avatar Some-Noname-idk Yeah You Are +1Reply
@Some-Noname-idk Can you not get the "idea" behind a piece of classical music since it doesn't have words?

how can you understand the context tho? like yea you can tell if it's sad or happy but that's it

I would say the vast majority of musicians and singers are not worshipped, only a very small portion of them that have reached the point of being a celebrity. Most musicians barely make a living. I think the problem is that celebrities have become all what popular music is about. I agree, a lot of the popular artists out now don't deserve the worship, but musicians in general are actually struggling.

And I think the reason why music tastes becomes such a large part of people's identity is because it gives people a sense of belonging. For example, I'm very into goth music and that genre has its own culture, fashion, and community surrounding it. I think most people who are really into one type of music also listen to other genres, but their preferences often mean something deeper to them.

Well celebrities.

Mcgee0s avatar Mcgee0 Yeah You Are +2Reply

I would say actors more. Music really gives us something deep.

We prize entertainers in general way too much in our society.

And we underrate the scientists and inventors who have done so much to make our lives better. They are mostly anonymous.

@Pheniz21 We prize entertainers in general way too much in our society. And we underrate the scientists and inventors who...

I agree 100%, and not to turn a blind eye to famous singers and musicians who worked tirelessly to get where they are, but the praise and respect is just wildly exaggerated, arising from the twisted priorities of our society.

I just listen to what I like. I probably couldn't tell you who made what for half of it, I just like the music.

Professor-kaosss avatar Professor-kaoss Yeah You Are +1Reply

I think there needs to be a distinction here.

I believe that most people tend to gravitate towards a style of music because of the fashions associated with it, and the lyrics presented.

But neither of those things have anything to do with the actual music.

I don't think most people realize or even try to separate how actual musical elements affect them. For the vast majority of people, a song ir style of music makes them feel great because of their own memories associated with that song, the visual/fashion aspects they associate with it, or the message the lyrics are sending, not the music.

That's where people get into worshipping the artist. They associate the music with their "platform."

I would expand that to just celebrities in general. Musicians (depending on the musician) get more respect in my eyes. But celebrities are just unusually attractive but entirely useless people

potatobunnys avatar potatobunny Yeah You Are 0Reply
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