supplant VR for the internet. Would you forsake the technology of the internet simply because it's human nature to try to play primate politics at every stage of our social evolution? As long as we are human, we will never extinguish entirely our less than optimal tendencies, thus every technology and platform will be for some period tested and mired by those with power, by those looking to separate, and by those who tend to see through a lens of hate or discrimination rather than love and unity. It's just part of our evolution. Watch anything in nature grow, is it always a clean and ubiquitous process? Or is life always tangled with death and decomposition, despite marching forward? Would you give up the internet as a freedom tech because of this same process occurring?
I see value in reality augmentation, when it comes to VR it has some niche application where it can prove useful but I hate the idea of making it a place to socialize. You're not socializing, you're in your room talking to a headset.
Given how most of the world relies on digital communication, most of the world disagrees with your stance.
Is it inferior to real life? Of course, but to say it's not socializing doesn't make sense to me.
Have you ever stayed up late chatting to a friend on the phone? Falling asleep with a spouse on videocall? Played an MMO and made friends in a guild? Why is none of this considered socializing?
Given how most of the world relies on digital communication, most of the world disagrees with your stance.
Relying on something for communication is entirely different thing from socializing and psychologists as well as rising suicide and depression rates do agree with me.
it inferior to real life? Of course, but to say it's not socializing doesn't make sense to me.
Let me rephrase, it's not good enough form of socializing for leading healthy life and barely socializing at all unless it's something like a phone call or video call.
I often compare VRChat to Burning Man. Most people have no concept of what Burning Man truly is. It's one of those things you really have to experience for yourself. There are many possible positive benefits of this tool, but I think a cool one to point out is the catalyzation of humanity. With all the bad press lately, this perspective may fly under the radar if only left to such a summary.
It's immersive in a way that really grips your mind. Have you tried full body tracking? There's finger tracking.. eye and face tracking… the whole experience is several times more immersive than anyone seems to assume.
the biggest barrier to VR adoption is that nobody wants to strap a pair of lightbulbs right up against their eyes and grope around their living room like a blind monkey. i'm sorry what's wrong with just using a normal screen on my computer?
It's like going from 2D to 3D. Or horse and buggy to a Tesla. Its another world. No comparison. Check out full body tracking, including finger, face and eye tracking.
Look up "erp," it's happening right now. For some, it's arguably more interesting and personable than one way imbibing a video. You could say it's much more hi-def, even much more human, as it's an actual person in real time.
No its a half-arsed cooperate attempt by Zuck to get people to live entirely through his world and gather data on you.
supplant VR for the internet. Would you forsake the technology of the internet simply because it's human nature to try to play primate politics at every stage of our social evolution? As long as we are human, we will never extinguish entirely our less than optimal tendencies, thus every technology and platform will be for some period tested and mired by those with power, by those looking to separate, and by those who tend to see through a lens of hate or discrimination rather than love and unity. It's just part of our evolution. Watch anything in nature grow, is it always a clean and ubiquitous process? Or is life always tangled with death and decomposition, despite marching forward? Would you give up the internet as a freedom tech because of this same process occurring?
I see value in reality augmentation, when it comes to VR it has some niche application where it can prove useful but I hate the idea of making it a place to socialize. You're not socializing, you're in your room talking to a headset.
With that logic, you aren't socializing with a phone or computer either and the only socializing that ever goes on happens with people in real life.
Yes, it's exactly like that. Chatting online is not socializing, or at the very least extremely poor way of socializing.
Given how most of the world relies on digital communication, most of the world disagrees with your stance.
Is it inferior to real life? Of course, but to say it's not socializing doesn't make sense to me.
Have you ever stayed up late chatting to a friend on the phone? Falling asleep with a spouse on videocall? Played an MMO and made friends in a guild? Why is none of this considered socializing?
Relying on something for communication is entirely different thing from socializing and psychologists as well as rising suicide and depression rates do agree with me.
Let me rephrase, it's not good enough form of socializing for leading healthy life and barely socializing at all unless it's something like a phone call or video call.
OP, you could have summarized all of this as "Zuckerberg's metaverse is bad but VR itself has potential."
I often compare VRChat to Burning Man. Most people have no concept of what Burning Man truly is. It's one of those things you really have to experience for yourself. There are many possible positive benefits of this tool, but I think a cool one to point out is the catalyzation of humanity. With all the bad press lately, this perspective may fly under the radar if only left to such a summary.
Thank you for that. I scrolled past everything OP wrote.
Nice try Mr Zuckerberg
Metaverse is just 3D SecondLife, and how significant was that in changing communication? None
It's immersive in a way that really grips your mind. Have you tried full body tracking? There's finger tracking.. eye and face tracking… the whole experience is several times more immersive than anyone seems to assume.
Okay, but does "immersive" equal "valuable" or "impactful"? I would argue that they are completely unrelated
the biggest barrier to VR adoption is that nobody wants to strap a pair of lightbulbs right up against their eyes and grope around their living room like a blind monkey. i'm sorry what's wrong with just using a normal screen on my computer?
It's like going from 2D to 3D. Or horse and buggy to a Tesla. Its another world. No comparison. Check out full body tracking, including finger, face and eye tracking.
No, lizard.
Pornhub is the future of VR
Look up "erp," it's happening right now. For some, it's arguably more interesting and personable than one way imbibing a video. You could say it's much more hi-def, even much more human, as it's an actual person in real time.
The metaverse _concept_ has potential.
The metaverse _execution_ is going to bankrupt Meta.
I'm old enough that I've lived through at least 3 VR hypes that just fizzled out. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
VRchat is alive and well, one of the coolest things I've ever experienced.