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This generation of isn't dumber than any that came before them. It is just getting harder to cheat at school. amirite?

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I do feel like they are getting progressively dumber and honestly more useless due to the ways people can make money doing dumb stuff for social media. It seems less and less people see any reason to learn anything if it's not related to social media and less people are actually trying to get jobs that actually benefit society. It just seems like peoples obsession with social media is growing and growing which is leading more people to try and be "influencers" and this is causing less people to have a desire to learn as most think they can just do a quick google search to find out things they don't know and they don't want a job other than being in the internet. Not that all influencers are bad there are many that do benefit society but the majority are just younger people on tik tok or YouTube doing dumb or scummy things for views.

DueBodybuildes avatar DueBodybuilde Yeah You Are +6Reply

They are also expected to know more things than the generations before them while also still knowing the obsolete things from those same generations.

Now it's harder to cheat in school wtf?

Before the internet one had to make their own small cheat sheets with knowlage they had to find on their own. Cheating was not used just because you don't know but rather knowledge you couldn't remember.

Compare it to 2020. During online exams, everyone was using google or group chats to get high notes with 0 preparation.

And it's not going away, even on in-person exams students use their phones or smartwatches all the time

freq432s avatar freq432 Yeah You Are +5Reply

It's getting harder to cheat? Kids today have the entire internet on their phones. It's easier to cheat than EVER.

@Expert-Afternoon-501 It's getting harder to cheat? Kids today have the entire internet on their phones. It's easier to cheat than EVER.

no it is not easy to cheat because for online exams, there are exam tabs that detect searching and exams are done with mirrors and cameras on. and for exams at school, you can't bring phones.

Are you kidding??? Cheating is easier than ever. Solution manuals are way more accessible since everyone's got their own little device to torrent them on. Not only that, open book and open notes tests are more prevalent with almost unregulated papers.

If ur vocabulary is so bad that you can't plagiarize properly than that's really on you, or your language arts education— more likely your Language arts education as there is a shortage of teachers rn but the amount of jobs needed to be done is crazy high and they're not being paid to fix your grammar and vocabulary in a normal setting.

The problem really is the quality of education, not the lack of cheating.

contextrips avatar contextrip Yeah You Are +4Reply

Haven't met anyone adults born after year 2000 that can cook simple meals, and it's sad.

@Vic8760 Haven't met anyone adults born after year 2000 that can cook simple meals, and it's sad.

with all due respect, i would say that you have not met people from all walks of life. wait til you meet people from a large university or in your future workforce

Did you put grammatical errors in the title and body on purpose or...?

Pheniz21s avatar Pheniz21 Yeah You Are +3Reply

I don't think the current generation is dumber but they're far more dependent on technology. As adults they often struggle to handle writing and arithmetic at a middle school level without a computer or calculator; and I suspect this is because they could use a computer or calculator as a crutch throughout their education.

88080808088s avatar 88080808088 Yeah You Are +3Reply

In a lot of cases, the parents are too busy working or doing their own thing. My friends parents were very involved in showing their kids what they need to know to survive out in the world. Now, they show their kids. One person I know that complains a lot about the younger generation does not believe in taking time to teach young people skills. They think life is watching movies, going out to eat, etc. Their concept is just putting them out in the world and they go into their first job unprepared. If they make it, they make it.

teknogreeks avatar teknogreek Yeah You Are +3Reply

I think they are smarter than op

Wrong in my opinion. The problem with adolescents today is that are no consequences for bad behaviour. This has led to disrupted class rooms, kids who try hard are often bullied for being nerds. The lack of consequences has led to an increase in toxic behaviour and toxic individuals.
Bring back some proper discipline and watch grades go up.

@potatobunny Wrong in my opinion. The problem with adolescents today is that are no consequences for bad behaviour. This has led...

what kind of proper discipline are you trying to imply? i hope this isn't violent consequences you are talking about

We lowered the bar to pass to such a degree all you need to succeed is a pencil... and still people fail. Sooo people are dumber now while intelligents has gone up.

opensofiass avatar opensofias Yeah You Are +3Reply

No... just no. Lol

Bf3247s avatar Bf3247 Yeah You Are +3Reply

My wife teaches middle school English and it's absolutely shocking how low the standards are for being able to read and write, and how many kids struggle to meet those standards. I was in middle school in the 90s and the level of expectation was higher back then without a doubt.

I don't know if there's a difference between being dumber and being less capable, but children today definitely seen to be less capable. The extent to which they're coddled is shocking to me.

They don't seem to be taught even the basics in school anymore. Def nothing before 2000 in history. They have the internet at their disposal also. They're dumb.

vcsandfecess avatar vcsandfeces Yeah You Are +3Reply

We've lowered the bar so far that it's kinda hard to really compare. 100 years ago a high school graduate could be guaranteed to have math and language skills of a certain calibre. Now it means they showed up more often that not.

My grandmother who literally was a teacher in a one room schoolhouse illustrated this to me 35 years ago and it sure hasn't improved since then. She could do math in her head that would bring students to their knees today. It's not that she was a math genius, she just worked at the level expected of her.

The harder to cheat part is just ridiculous.

Shiny244s avatar Shiny244 Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Shiny244 We've lowered the bar so far that it's kinda hard to really compare. 100 years ago a high school graduate could be...

I read somewhere that a hundred years ago a high school education was comparable to a college education today.

@Shiny244 We've lowered the bar so far that it's kinda hard to really compare. 100 years ago a high school graduate could be...

i honestly with the cheating part and i hate that most of my classmates do this without regret and they just easily move on without any consequences and also no learnings

DueBodybuildes avatar DueBodybuilde Yeah You Are +2Reply

Lmao, it's really not hard to cheat in school nowadays, literally put your AirPods in and put a voice memo of all the answers and have the memo repeat constantly, then hand in your test.

If anything it's become easier. Also there is still plagiarism holes in the technology, I won't give a way how to easily bypass it, because then when you reveal secrets, they'll patch it up. 😉

One thing I'll agree with you though is social media definitely makes their stupidity more public. That's one of the pain in the asses about social media.

Everyone and their grandma knows your business now.

Iapetus-11s avatar Iapetus-11 Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Iapetus-11 Lmao, it's really not hard to cheat in school nowadays, literally put your AirPods in and put a voice memo of all...

i also agree that social media is literally showing us who are superficial and stupid and those who support the wrong election candidates when there is a better option

I also think the amount to learn gets bigger and so does what each course covers.

For example the same level of graphic communication taught 20 years apart would be totally different. Mum cant help my sister as she hasnt heard of things my sisters doing, and she took biology a couple of classes further than my sister.

And also education sort of became less of a priority during covid and even before that for a while teachers struggled to get funding

Larny2019s avatar Larny2019 Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Larny2019 I also think the amount to learn gets bigger and so does what each course covers. For example the same level of...

exactly! plus some old teachers are unable to even keep up with using zoom or video calls so they just give out homework and not teaching anymore

So to try and prove that people in this generation aren't dumb... you used cheating on school work as an example? YOU USED CHEATING ON SCHOOL WORK AS AN EXAMPLE TO PROVE SOMEONE ISN'T DUMB?!?

This has to be a joke

jodzdzownicas avatar jodzdzownica Yeah You Are +2Reply

Just you saying that they try and cheat makes them look dumb lmao. If you have to cheat on a test, you're dumb. Sorry to tell ya.

I don't think they are dumber, I think they have less critical thinking skills which honestly is the fault of their parents and teachers, not them. I mean there isn't much you need to solve now, you can just google it.

Nickyikkys avatar Nickyikky Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Nickyikky I don't think they are dumber, I think they have less critical thinking skills which honestly is the fault of their...

exactly! knowledge is available on the tip of our hands and it is just up to us to know about things we are interested in! research and detective work have been really hard back then when technological innovations were not yet developed

Nickyikkys avatar Nickyikky Yeah You Are +1Reply

You forgot the noun of what isn't "dumber", dummy.

Actually after a year or two of remote learning due to covid, the younger generation is legit stupider at their age than those before them.

Nope. Schools are zoos these days and more and more teachers dgaf.

Generation of what?

Unpopular opinion: pollution has affected the latest generations and is making them weaker and stupider.

Thatoneduderyans avatar Thatoneduderyan Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Thatoneduderyan Unpopular opinion: pollution has affected the latest generations and is making them weaker and stupider.

i am torn if i will agree and disagree with this. but i think i will lean more towards agree, because pollution could affect us physically and mentally

contextrips avatar contextrip Yeah You Are +2Reply

On the contrary this is the most Socially and emotionally aware generation there has likely ever been. We're smarter and better (Yes Better) than previous generations.

@404ChompyNotFound On the contrary this is the most Socially and emotionally aware generation there has likely ever been. We're...

i believe not really smarter is the right term, but wiser, more empathetic, inclusive, and progressive would be better terms compared to traditional and limited perspectives

Kionixs avatar Kionix Yeah You Are +4Reply
@Kionix i believe not really smarter is the right term, but wiser, more empathetic, inclusive, and progressive would be...

I agree, I'm 1997 and I think when zoomers grow up they will make better world than it is today

@synthsexual Millennials have made a mess of it but we'll get it back on track.

Unlucky with COVID into war fr, gotta fix the climate too, got the job cut out

lazar94s avatar lazar94 Yeah You Are +3Reply

Lol I don't think so... Especially with COVID mandatory online classes and parents couldn't drop off their kids at "glorified baby sitters", which school should never be taken as, but a lot of people use it as, didn't even have the factor of being in a classroom to be in a setting that's less distracting than home. I know there was no way around this but, it's just fact, I don't blame anyone.

I think we're going to have some you get Gen Z that are far behind in education, not that we already don't have people like that, that are a lot older lol.

I'm seeing that they don't have much common sense

Manualhams avatar Manualham Yeah You Are +2Reply

The ironic thing is that kids don't even need to cheat to get through school these days. It's very difficult to outright fail many of these kids and hold them back. Most of them are just moved along by the system.

No, they are definitely dumber. A lot dumber.

If you have to cheat. You should stay in school.

Hahaha harder to cheat… you do know prior to mid/late 90s people did not have internet at home with which to share tests, essays, etc. Back then if we wanted to cheat we had to really put some effort in.

Apartlavishnesss avatar Apartlavishness Yeah You Are +2Reply

You guys need to cheat in school?

mattyh2433s avatar mattyh2433 Yeah You Are +1Reply
@mattyh2433 You guys need to cheat in school?

Get this. If you copy the answers from the books and lectures into your brain they can't see them when you take the test. 100% cheat sheet never get caught.

Balkany4Evers avatar Balkany4Ever Yeah You Are +4Reply
@mattyh2433 You guys need to cheat in school?

Procrastination is a bitch. Not something I'm proud of, but definitely resorted to slap dash plagerism in highschool when I left myself 2 hours to write papers. Was almost too easy in the late 90s, when the older teachers were internet illiterate.

@mattyh2433 You guys need to cheat in school?

Cheating is completely rampant. I remember studying and having a tough time in school, later discovering that a pretty big proportion of the class was just passing around memorized test questions from previous classes.

Nickyikkys avatar Nickyikky Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Nickyikky Cheating is completely rampant. I remember studying and having a tough time in school, later discovering that a...

yea so probably the problem is tests that require only memorization when every student actually has different strengths

@mattyh2433 You guys need to cheat in school?

sometimes time restraint and personal problems hinder some individuals to actually focus on academics but it doesn't mean they are not smart

Iapetus-11s avatar Iapetus-11 Yeah You Are +2Reply

What?..

lazar94s avatar lazar94 Yeah You Are +1Reply

Cheating teaches creative problem solving solutions. It's like an arms race between teacher and student. The kids who get caught are the stupid ones… and ironically, the ones who need to cheat in the first place.

Wait it's harder to cheat now?? You literally have a calculator in your pocket! And that calculator also happens to have the ugh.. rest of human knowledge easily accessible at your fingertips.

Boknows12s avatar Boknows12 Yeah You Are +1Reply

I think the current generation is smarter than any generation previous. Older people just don't want to admit it, or accept it.

@Achilles982 I think the current generation is smarter than any generation previous. Older people just don't want to admit it...

i would agree to this but it actually depends on what kind of smart you are talking about, there are street and book smart among others

@Achilles982 I think the current generation is smarter than any generation previous. Older people just don't want to admit it...

We teach our kids everything we know but not everything they know - so then they are smarter than us

But we can learn so much from them when we put our egos aside and accept that we are now the supporting actors in their lives and no longer the lead

Iapetus-11s avatar Iapetus-11 Yeah You Are +2Reply

Test scores in all major areas have fallen off a cliff since covid. There is much more going on than not being able to cheat as well.

my generation had a sweet spot where the tech was there but the detecting cheating tech was not there

Balkany4Evers avatar Balkany4Ever Yeah You Are +1Reply

Always funny how when people get older and learn more from experience, then the next generations seem dumber to them when they were just as dumb at the same age too

@Milkzey Always funny how when people get older and learn more from experience, then the next generations seem dumber to...

i agree to this! personally when i had this huge experience, i felt like that mistake made me learn a lot and gave me a wiser and broader perspective and understanding of life that made others seem less wise for me

Larny2019s avatar Larny2019 Yeah You Are +2Reply

They are not, they have easier access to information

Mcgee0s avatar Mcgee0 Yeah You Are 0Reply

Spill bestie.

Yes having all the answers to anything you can imagine at your fingertips definitely makes it harder to cheat

Openeyess avatar Openeyes Yeah You Are 0Reply

Boomer generation(50s+) had it very easy with cheating. Just use /pay the poor nerdy girl in class to get all the answers from and write your reports. Once things turned digital it all got a lot more complicated.

First of all, cheating can often involve creativity and thinking outside the box (which is why so many teachers ask why students cheated in the first place, because it can get to a point where just doing the assignment would have been simpler and easier).

Second, the types of skills that students need nowadays are different than the ones they needed in the past. Back in the day, things like memorization and being able to recall information quickly were a lot more important because it was harder to access information (had to go to the library, flip through stacks of books, etc.). Now, with all the information we could want at our fingertips, the ability to find and sort through information is a lot more important. I remember when my math teachers would tell me we needed to commit certain things to memory because "we wouldn't be walking around with a calculator in our pocket" to help us. Well...we are now. The human brain naturally seeks the easiest route to accomplish something. If it doesn't need to do something, it won't. It's not a matter of laziness or stupidity, it's a matter of efficiency.

I don't think you are right on this one op… but I also don't think it's their fault.

My daughter goes to the school I went to as a kid and the bar is set just so low. Over the years they've decided to achieve better outcomes to just simply expect less. More tech less thinking etc. if she went in when I did with the knowledge base she has now she would have failed every single class.

So they are. But only because education is failing them.

Well here In nz at least. But I have to assume globally it's gotta be fairly similar

U cheat in school?

Kionixs avatar Kionix Yeah You Are 0Reply

Umm covid has definitely held back kids…

In my middle school I was in a program called summit learning. Which had online tests where you needed to score 8/10 or higher to pass. in 2nd tri of 7th grade I found a fail proof way to cheat every test. And I never got caught. I didn't always pass but It helped in most classes except math.

Nice try, kid from this generation.

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