Preventative healthcare is literally healthcare.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

It also requires people to take care of themselves. Smoking, over eating, over drinking abuse of drugs, STDs from unprotected sex. If folks don't take care of themselves then will probably develop health issues which will fall on the tax payers to pay for it. Greed will not cease with a socialized system, raise taxes to much and it could drive business out or under or drive people to immigrate else where , where taxes are lower. There would also be the issue of the system being stressed and low on budget and there is a need to liquidate some spending or recuperate some cost like fines for some one who is overweight who has heath issues from being overweight in the position because they are overeating and not getting etiquette exercise or someone with lung cancer from smoking still smoking or some one with cirrhosis of the liver and the doctor can smell the alcohol their breath. There could also be a push for medically assisted suicide like with the attempts to expand M.A.I.D. in Canada.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Yeah, my face scrunched at that part

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Dude, pretty sure the socialized health care in Canada and other Nordic countries is doing just fine.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

How many of those countries actually provide defense for themselves..??

by Anonymous 2 years ago

You are also aware that they pay less in healthcare per person than we do, right?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

You… uh… you know it's a thing in other countries right?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

This is all true until you look at the absolutely absurd amount of wealth America has. Free public healthcare would still be dwarfed by our defense budget. Also it works just fine in other countries, I'm not sure why you think the richest country in the world can't manage it. I'm not saying it won't be without its issues, but it is easily possible and not getting farther away.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

> Also it works just fine in other countries This is one of those things people say unless they have significant exposure to the Canadian healthcare system. The system is on the verge of collapse because costs have escalated, primarily because people are simultaneously living longer and less healthy lives.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Canada spends half as much per person on healthcare. If Canada spent as much as the USA per person they can all be obese and still get gourmet meals and blowjobs at their luxury hospitals.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

>This is one of those things people say unless they have significant exposure to the Canadian healthcare system. Cherry-picking much?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Just a Canadian.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Tax-funded healthcare works pretty well in most developed countries. The average first world nation spends 9-10 % of GDP on healthcare, covering everyone. The US spends 18% with 8 % of the population uninsured and another 8 under insured. I would say that a perspective based on the outlier US setup doesn't get a very realistic view of healthcare.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I hope you know that it's literally possible in every developed nation. Hell, in the USA we could get free healthcare with just the money the Pentagon has unaccounted for. The idea that healthcare is as expensive as it is because that's how much the materials and stuff cost is just straight up propaganda dude, in reality basically everything here has a 12,000%+ markup.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Or maybe take a few billion from the 1.2 Trillion dollar spending budget the milltary has?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Weird in Germany it works fine.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

But not going back in time mining coal

by Anonymous 2 years ago

That's literally why free, abundant healthcare works so well. In the US, people put off preventative care as long as possible because they can't afford it. Than they inevitably collapse and cost taxpayers millions in emergency care. The US already spends more tax money on healthcare than most nations with free healthcare. Offering free healthcare saves an incredible amount of money; it's private healthcare that is too great a burden on taxpayers.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I mean, I feel like free health care would actually benefit prevention. Preventative care still costs money, depending on any lab work or anything it costs even more money. Prevention isn't free either.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

You'd be paying the "free" healthcare costs in taxes

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Yes I'm aware of how taxes and healthcare work.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

We would be fine with that, though the cost would actually go down since people will actually go to hospitals and clinics instead of waiting until they are literally dying.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Not really. Most of the cost comes from the elderly in their last few years of life.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Which would actually be less than you are paying in taxes for public healthcare currently.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

> In a world where people are constantly destroying their health, and the variety of disease grows source?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Op got the same mindset as the UK gov rn

by Anonymous 2 years ago

It's only a dream in the US, in the rest of the world it's a reality

by Anonymous 2 years ago