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The guy who was supposedly killed on the cross was actually killed by an Italian, amirite?
by Anonymous2 years ago
Roman. Not Italian. It happened in Palestina, so the bloke was most likely NOT from the boot-shaped peninsula. And Italy didn't exist then, of course.
by Anonymous2 years ago
I mean he could have been "Italian". He definitely wasnt Jewish; they were not down with Rome⦠really ever I think, but around and right after the time of Jesus there were a bunch of revolts against them.
by Anonymous2 years ago
Yeah by this point, most Roman soldiery was a melting pot of a vast empire. Dude could easily have been Thracian or Iberian or Libyan.
by Anonymous2 years ago
Ahhhh, my bad, must have been the Rome from Georgia then that the dude came from...
by Anonymous2 years ago
Clearly the landmass existed, but Italy wasn't a country until a legal process began in 1815 and ended in 1861.
At the time of Big J, Rome was the empire, but being an empire that spanned various countries, being Roman didn't mean you only came from the CityState of Rome.
by Anonymous2 years ago
It's like he hasn't even seen Gladiator?!
by Anonymous2 years ago
He is clearly not entertained!
by Anonymous2 years ago
Still a non-zero chance that Rome had stationed ACTUAL Roman soldiers in an area highlighted as being a potential hotbed of civil unrest, at a time of civil unrest, to ensure peace or at least relay events back to the citystate of Rome.
One of their jobs would most likely have been to ensure the prisoners were treated as required to show a Roman control. This would most effectively have been done by an actual Roman guard, from Rome. Not just a local who was born into the empire somewhere and handed the role by... Other locals who hated the Roman presence?
Yeah, still a good chance the guard who thrust the spear was in fact from the place with the Parthenon...
by Anonymous2 years ago
>still a good chance the guard who thrust the spear was in fact from the place with the Parthenon...
Greek? I guess, yeah, but still Roman.
Just like IRL... I'm from Northern Ireland, a part of the UK, but not Great Britain. However, my passport says my nationality is British.
So that Greek, or Cyprian, or Turkish, or Syrian, or Egyptian (or rather, their home country name at the time) or wherever they came from, was still a Roman!
by Anonymous2 years ago
You're playing dumb. Being Roman doesn't mean you are from Rome. It means you are a soldier (or citizen or whatever) of the Roman Empire.
Know how empires work?
by Anonymous2 years ago
Ohhhh!!
Can I double down on being dumb then?
So all of the Indians born in India between 1858 and 1947, as well as all of the other countries within that empire, were actually British?
Or am I not being the dumb one now?
by Anonymous2 years ago
Read my reply again. I said he was "soldier of the Roman Empire". I didn't say he was Roman.
Indians born in the period you mentioned were born as citizens (if the status of citizenship applies) of the British Empire. But they were indeed Indians.
by Anonymous2 years ago
Um, Roman armies came from across the empire. A large percentage - if not majority - were auxiliaries from outside Italy. A Roman soldier was as likely to be a German, Gaul, or African as an Italian.
by Anonymous2 years ago
Maybe I'm being dumb, but what's the significance of this?
Is there a widespread belief that he wasn't killed by the Romans?
by Anonymous2 years ago
No there is widespread belief that although he was Jewish, he was killed BY the Jews.
Also more the fact that when referring to Romans, as like some sort of mysterious ancient people's with their chariots and colloseum and togas, it's really just Italian people from ages ago.
by Anonymous2 years ago
Roman empire was huge, a random legionnaire could be from anywhere between Spain to Mesopotamia. Italy was a province back then and the one you are referring to was established in 1861.
Other than that nails are not the case of death during crucifixion, victims suffocate due to chest muscle fatigue.
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