Color and tone are two different terms. People don't just have different skin tones. We aren't just lighter and darker. If you're uncomfortable acknowledging the different colors of people that exist on the planet with you, then that's a problem that *you* need to work on instead of asking everyone else to make you comfortable by only acknowledging tones.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I mean what term should you use? "Lighter" and "Darker" are too vague and context dependent. Tan, brown, almost black (not sure if I've ever met a human being I'd be 100% comfortable describing as absolutely 'black') and, okay maybe not yellow or red because those are kind of offensive but still the point is people's skin is a certain color. It just is.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Why are red and yellow more offensive than black? They're no less accurate (that is to say, as you aluded to, most "black" people are actually brown).

by Anonymous 2 years ago

but black people often refer to themselves or others with dark skin as black, whereas east-Asian people are never called "yellow" without it being an insult.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Yes. Which is black is not offensive but yellow is. I said black was sorta imperfect on a literal level, I never said it was offensive.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Language is never going to be an exact science and we don't have to pretend that terms like "Redskin" don't have negative connotations to maintain some adherence to pointless consistancy. Sometimes 2+2 is offensive (or some level of problematic or whatever) and 2X2 isn't and going "But they are the same thing!" misses the point.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I have been called a "redskin" more than a few times in my life due to my families culture. Its more than kind of offensive.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Well I'm sorry but I just got told that just means you're too "woke" so I don't know what to believe anymore.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

idk why you'd specify that, if it really matters, I would just say "they had a darker skin tone" or "they looked like they have an East-Asian ethnicity" it is uncomfortable so... just don't? why should it matter?

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I just think with all things racial, context matters. Obviously outside of being explicitly derogatory, even then it's, in my opinion, okay to use certain words in a context of learning and teaching people why they are viewed the way they are. But I use the word black and white pretty colloquially, though I feel yellow and red are derogatory because of how they've been used in history. Though if someone says they don't like something I have no reason not to respect their wishes. I wouldn't say darker or lighter just because it's vague, and I really only use race as a way to identify someone anyway. Like if a girl in a group is the only black person, and I ask "what's that black girls name?" It doesn't necessarily *sound* bad to me, though I'm always open to changing my mind, especially when I can at least understand my sympathetic point of view is very limited.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

Instead of "who is that black girl over there" I try and be like "who is that girl over there? The one with (hairstyle) or (specific article or clothing)"

by Anonymous 2 years ago

I mean I usually do try to say something like that but it happens sometimes.

by Anonymous 2 years ago

The ultimate virtue signal

by Anonymous 2 years ago