+152 Arrogance, avarice and self-centredness are the real values we embrace, amirite?

by Anonymous 11 months ago

I meeeaann... I see what you're saying. I don't know that I would say we 'embrace' them, but we definitely aren't honest about the fact that the more selfish personality traits are the ones you see with people who have the most power. The 48 Laws of Power pretty much outlines it. And in the CEO world, yeah, that's the norm. But that's not necessarily... morally the right way to be? Lol I think we teach kids to be kind and respectful to others because that is how you should treat people and it is how we all want to be treated by others. I don't agree that we should glorify asshole traits and teach kids that the only way to success is to be cold and take advantage of other people. The world is ugly and greedy enough. Just because it has always been that way for the highly successful, doesn't mean it's right. We live in a racist capitalist world where only the rich and selfish benefit - it is definitely not because they deserve it. We shouldn't want to perpetuate this idea to the young minds of the world. We need to retain as much human decency as we can.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

I agree with the let's change the narrative energy but I see little evidence it leads to stability or success. There are some Nobel Peace Prise winner who might be exceptions but most or then had to risk their lives to get the million dollar payout.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

Stability and success are also up to perception, too... the belief that being a millionaire or billionaire is the only way to be deemed 'successful'. Obviously a wealthy CEO type would not agree, but having a lot of money and calling the shots only boosts your ego. It's only satisfying because of what you get and what you can show off. And people like that, like you said, are psychopaths and self centered. That kind of lifestyle is not rooted in anything wholesome lol. There are corporations out here whose principles' and company visions are literally centered on kindness and care for others -now, many are non profit, lol, and obviously not raking in millions of dollars, but they are successfully helping underserved communities, or whatever the case. And many people who obtain a lot of wealth are lonely and have no one to share those things with. Personality type and morals definitely play a role in how far you get. A lot of people in the world chase money and fame because that's what we glorify and that's what they see others doing. Some people can have their partner and their $70K job that they love, and be perfectly stable.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

Nothing to disagree with here. Stability though is based on a lot conditions which most people lack access to influence. When you have economic power, you can have stability according to contours you can influence.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

>10% of CEOs qualify by conventional metrics as psychopaths. These people rule by instilling fear, manipulation and duplicity. These are the people we say to kids that they could be someday when they grow up. So why don't we prepare the next generations to meet the challenge accordingly? That's what elite prep schools do.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

True but it's also what other institutions do as well like certain churches.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

Actually we don't embrace them, which is why those are the types of people who get ahead. Because they're willing to go against the values we embrace while most other people aren't.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

But we celebrate their success from Vanderbilt to Musk. They are social currency and some of us are willing to go into debt to try to match.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

you think we can train people to become vanderbilts and musks ? do you think every person in the society can become a billionaire ? a big company has tens of thousands of workers, but a single CEO. you cannot train to become something that is determined by sheer luck. we train people to statistically maximize their success based on hard work + some luck/misfortune here and there.

by Anonymous 11 months ago

>why don't we prepare the next generations to meet the challenge accordingly? cos if fighters fight with bare hands instead of machineguns there's a chance of more of em surviving... there's not enough success for everybody, and the amount of it will not increase, the people being more ferocious means just more damage to everybody AND less focus on the actual work they do peace ✌

by Anonymous 11 months ago