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Pupils should always be allowed to choose which people they work with when doing group work, amirite?

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God, no. I hate having to make groups. I have anxiety and barely know anyone in some of my classes, and I feel like crying because I know I'll have to ask the teacher to find me a group. It's embarrassing as hell.

In life, you have to learn to work with all types of people with all types of strengths and weaknesses. If you feel as though you can only successfully work with your friends, that is something you need to challenge. As a teacher, there are SO MANY factors that some into play when assigning groups other than the two you've described.

in the real world you don't get to pick your coworkers, or the coworkers you work on a project with.

@East-conference-2832 in the real world you don't get to pick your coworkers, or the coworkers you work on a project with.

Are they not in the real world yet or do you consider them less of a human because they are under the arbitrary age of which you can move out of your parents house do you believe they are still dependent upon their parents because that's not how the world works

@Some-Noname-idk I'm starting to wonder how old you are.

I'm starting to wonder if your trying to counter my argument by suggesting I'm a child

@Nickyikky I'm starting to wonder if your trying to counter my argument by suggesting I'm a child

Form an ultimatum some wounds be too deep to heal should 13 yr old me

No thanks. I already know.

So the reason you keep disagreeing is because you were bullied. Then report the bully and tell the teacher you don't want to work with him. But you still have to learn how to get out of your comfort zone and work with strangers.

Because again, like I've been saying sooo many times already...they're teaching you to work with strangers because when you have a real job you will be forced to work with strangers.

@Some-Noname-idk I'm starting to wonder how old you are.

Yeah, like who says "pupils" anymore?!

NerdBoy628s avatar NerdBoy628 Yeah You Are +1Reply
@Dairyqueenemployee Are they not in the real world yet or do you consider them less of a human because they are under the arbitrary age...

"real world" is a colloquialism for the working/professional world, after adolescence (school), when you reach maturity/adulthood.

"school" typically implies an adolescent/juvenile who is still learning.

i.e. if you are complaining about getting who you are stuck working with a project on while you are in high school, you are not in the "real world" yet. OP is talking about "teachers" implying that they are at an age where they are in a school/learning environment where a teacher assigns projects to them. that's a sign of what stage of life they are in.

jodzdzownicas avatar jodzdzownica Yeah You Are +1Reply
@jodzdzownica "real world" is a colloquialism for the working/professional world, after adolescence (school), when you reach...

You know I despise the word juvenile don't get me wrong when describing animals it's ok but the human brain is so complex that you can never truly comprehend how mature some people are for their age as a teenager many will get jobs does this not qualify them to be a part of this "working world" you speak of

@East-conference-2832 in the real world you don't get to pick your coworkers, or the coworkers you work on a project with.

In the real world, you aren't as likely to work with a lazy person who won't do anything. In the real world, you aren't as likely to work with a person who wants to put porn in your presentations. I also don't get why this is some kind of argument. HS isn't the same as the real world. At all. Not sure why someone would like this specific aspect to be the same.

My friends are the only people I can work well with, because they are the only people that aren't completely brainless.

This is why group work with other kids is important. So you can realize that you are

1. Not judging other people fairly

2. Not as smart as you think you are.

ambitiouscorners avatar ambitiouscorner Yeah You Are +4Reply

1) My goal is that students learn, not that they feel free to fail.

2) It does help build teamwork skills.

BreadHasAGuns avatar BreadHasAGun Yeah You Are +4Reply

I hope you aren't near graduating yet.

In most jobs, you're gonna have to work together with complete strangers. That's the idea. You have to learn how to build rapport and rely on people you don't know.

If your team mates are a bunch of morons then feel free to report them. Don't need to drag yourself down with them.

School isn't there to make you comfortable. It's there to help you branch out of your comfort zone and learn real life skills. Most of your adult life requires expanding your comfort zone.

This is one of those skills.

Assangeofficials avatar Assangeofficial Yeah You Are +3Reply
@Assangeofficial School isn't there to make you comfortable. It's there to help you branch out of your comfort zone and learn real...

School teaches you social skills and useless knowledge. That being said, you can't compare school to the real world. And no, school isn't there to make you comfortable. It's also obviously not there to teach you real life skills.

@Achilles982 Learning how to work as a team with people you haven't hand-picked is a social skill.

In real life, you don't have partners who don't do any work as often.

Mcgee0s avatar Mcgee0 Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Mcgee0 In real life, you don't have partners who don't do any work as often.

As an adult in the work force who has worked with other "adults", my experiences do not reflect this claim.

@tonywonderslostnut As an adult in the work force who has worked with other "adults", my experiences do not reflect this claim.

That's totally possible. None of the people I know ever talk about this type of experience when I ask them. It may be the profession or country we're in.

The thing most people need to understand is not everyone gets along and that's perfectly fine I sat next to a guy who we never talked because we didn't share the same interests that's fine but when it came to work neither of us felt like communicating or contributing that's why I tried to move seats to someone I actually get along with it's not usually as clear cut as this but please start separating the people who just don't like each other

@Iapetus-11 The thing most people need to understand is not everyone gets along and that's perfectly fine I sat next to a guy...

The thing most people need to understand is not everyone gets along

The thing you do not seem to understand is that in the workplace you are often forced to work with people you do not like.

It is important to know how to do that.

@Cityofthevikingdead If they're being an asshole complain you've never tried that have you just complain

Real world isn't high school. You can't report someone just because they're being mean. Your boss will most likely ignore it, because they're only interested in how much work you've done. So you better prepared to work with people you don't like.

Theunknowxns avatar Theunknowxn Yeah You Are +3Reply

No. That's a stupid idea. It's also not even close to how things work in the real world.

The whole "builds teamwork skills" is overplayed and people forget that school isn't about team but the individual students development to learn the basics so they can actually function as a useful part of a team (society). The team approach, if used a lot, glosses over and hides student weaknesses. Those weaknesses need to be noted and corrected, instead of having a more polished & capable student covering for them.

@Alixkast The whole "builds teamwork skills" is overplayed and people forget that school isn't about team but the individual...

That more polished and capable student is usually me, tbh. In group work I feel like I'm just doing the teacher's job.

Tldfonats avatar Tldfonat Yeah You Are +5Reply

Life doesn't always let you pick and choose.

The sooner children learn this, and that they need to figure out how to work with people they may not want to, the better.

It's about building social skills and leaning about, and from, different people and points of view more than anything.

I may be wrong, and I'll accept that if so.

Also, +1

Tldfonats avatar Tldfonat Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Tldfonat Life doesn't always let you pick and choose. The sooner children learn this, and that they need to figure out...

Maybe you've never tried to pick and choose because everyone else has always told you "in the real world you can't choose" maybe it's just a matter of whether you believe that or not that decides whether you can pick and chose

Kionixs avatar Kionix Yeah You Are +2Reply
@Kionix Maybe you've never tried to pick and choose because everyone else has always told you "in the real world you can't...

There's no need to believe if its true. Are you and your friends going to choose the same course, apply for the same job and work together for the rest of your lives and never have to work with other people?

I don't think so.

@Gangstacat4882 I'm just saying forced interaction between strangers doesn't mean they get along

Okay. So what? That's not my point.

The point you should learn to work together with strangers. Doesn't mean you should get along and be friends, just do the objective. Because when you have a job, most likely YOU WILL BE FORCED TO WORK WITH STRANGERS.

Balkany4Evers avatar Balkany4Ever Yeah You Are +1Reply

Putting someone like me into a group with other people with which I am expected to do academic work, doesn't help my teamwork skills whatsoever.

I'd bet that you are part of the problem then. You need to be able to work with other people that are not your friends. If you can't adjust and adapt to other people, you are going to have a rough time. Clubs and team sports arent mandatory. Group assignments in class most likely are mandatory. You NEED to learn how to work with other people. And I'm not referring to the general "you," I am actually referring to YOU in particular.

@Crazymotherfuker Putting someone like me into a group with other people with which I am expected to do academic work, doesn't help...

And what defines your ability to work with other people is it your ability to do all or none of the work because the people you work with are just terrible people not everyone is capable of getting along they're just capable of functioning enough to pump out a product and if that's what you want then your the problem

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