+170 Visual artists of all stripes need to chill the F out about money and take a leaf out of musicians' book and be open to starting creative collaborations with other non-visual artists, similar to how most bands are formed, amirite?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Sorry to be stupid but wtf is a visual artist

by Anonymous 1 year ago

People like sketch artists, painters, sculptors, and the like.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Generally it's just the untalented ones that get mad about this

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Dude……..

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Dude... ive just never heard them specifically called visual artists lmao chill

by Anonymous 1 year ago

As a visual artist, i fail to understand what these sort of collaborations would look like.... Can you explain better?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

You make art for me. I pay you in exposure. You unsuccessfully try to convince landlord to accept exposure for rent.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

That's not what I meant at all. Think about a literal garage band. They collaborate and practice their assess off till they're ready to play out. None of them make a dime until they land paying gigs. Nobody is trying to get free exposure from anyone else.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

And all that time who pays rent? Musicians have to resort to this extremely unfavorable situation because it is extremely hard to make any money alone (until a musician is very well established of course). And vast majority of musicians doesn't make it far. In the meantime, these musicians need to be supportedeither by jobs that they hold or by their families. By contrast, visual artists are actually able to make money. And making money to actually support yourself is absolutely vital. Reducing themselves to what musicians go through would be insanity unless they have rich parents.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

They do land a dime when they sell their music

by Anonymous 1 year ago

OP? There is a difference between playing for fun and telling them not to pay/not expecting pay and getting told to not pay in cash even though that was what was expected. It's insulting when I get told to do something for free, but I would gladly make fanart of my favorite youtuber, free of charge. The key here is who asks for zero $.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I don't know if you've ever started a band, but with the band scenario, there's a from the start an understood and almost never spoken agreement that you're all in it to make music. Money almost never comes up, unless you specifically start a band for money. Everyone just knows from long experience that you're all there to make music. Come what may.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

*I'm* in charge of the red markers. I will draw five red perpendicular lines.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Visual artist do collab, I believe they call it theatre.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I do think we need to bring back art teams. It is decently popluar to see art collabs mostly friends online where two or more will combine sketching, lining and coloring, and or they all draw a certain part and combine them after. In Japan it's not uncommon to see writer artist duos for a manga or video game, or you could see collabs in backgrounds vs character art Though a Collab for a band is different then a visual art since music tends to be played with multiple people with it being rare to see a person do everything by themselves (unless it's a remix/electro and you don't see collabs often there either) while an artist can do basically everything by themselves, so why get someone else if you don't need them?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Something tells me they just don't think you bring anything to the table because I know a few visual artists who do collabs

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This is true. But you can pretty easily tell the quality of somebody's art by how upset they are over AI. It's the people with crappy deviantart pages that get mad - "illustrators" along the skill level of that trans person who shot up a school - terrible low quality art. Anybody with skill looks at ai art tools and sees how they can feed their own work into the machine for rough drafts and inspiration to make even cooler original work. Similar with music - these same people used to complain about how synthesizers were putting musicians out of business, and lamented the passing of the milkman

by Anonymous 1 year ago

There's a difference between using a synthesiser because it sounds cool and using an AI because it does the work for you and doesn't require any artistic skill

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Almost all talented artists that create quality stuff are against AI and they absolutely do not want to feed their hard work and time into some AI machine so that other people can steal and make money off it without spending a little bit of the effort they spent into getting good. I think AI can be a good thing to get inspiration from but the way it is used is wrong. It should be a tool to help, not a tool to steal from others like that.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

"Almost all talented artists" sounds like you're being awfully defensive. Might you be an objectively terrible artist as well? Jealous of AI now? Anybody with real talent recognizes they can use these tools to make their own work better.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Please... just.. shut up. Please.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Tell me you're an untalented teen without telling me you're an untalented teen

by Anonymous 1 year ago