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+150Women are traditionally the cooks in their family while most chefs in restaurants are men, amirite?
Like Lefty said- Men cooks better thats why(Saw Donnie Brasco for first time yesterday)
Probably because centuries of conditioning has made women look at cooking as a chore and not something enjoyable?
Restaurants with grandmas as the chef produce solid solid food. Maybe not as technical or adventurous as like a haute Michelin restaurant, but something you'd go back weekly for. Or more often
Women (in general, relax) don't want to work the absolutely garbage hours chef's have to do. While everyone is out enjoying their evening chef's just finish hours of prep to cook the best steak you've ever had to have some jerk send it back because they don't like it and it's drowning in A1 sauce. It's a grueling profession.
Agreed. It's a mix though.
Of course, there are always exceptions to the rules, and that doesn't mean that women shouldn't become chef's. The data is just as it is for a reason.
men become chefs so that their women can cook
This one makes no sense. The men who can't cook marry women with basic+ cooking skills.
It's always get back in the kitchen until it comes to the barbecue
aren't kitchens notoriously sexist? I'd imagine that's why
Yes, yes they are :)
I don't think rooms can be sexist...
More that it's tough, physical work with hours that suck for anyone considering motherhood. Men thrive in the battle and chaos of a dinner rush. I'm married to a chef and could not do what he does.
I'm the cook in my family (frozen chick nugs, Mac n cheese, grilled cheese, etc). But my husband is 109% the chef of my fam.
See I do the home cooking and I do a lot of artisanal style cooking
My wife does a lot of burning more so then cooking so I think it's for the best
Because men like to get paid for hard work, while women are expected to do hard work regardless.
Like hard work on only fans?
A woman's place is in the home.
Really? You people can't understand sarcasm?
What was tradition 50 years ago and what is tradition now might not be the same thing.
Also cooking in a restaurant compared to cooking at home is like comparing a Landscaping company to a small home garden.
Most Landscapers are men and most hobby Gardeners are women but anyone can do either.
So to me it less about what you are doing and more about how you are doing it.
Women tend to take there time and don't like to be rushed and put in more attention to detail. (cooking for 1 family)
Men like to be efficient and pump out as much work or volume as possible. (cooking for 50 people)
Also the culture of a restaurant kitchen is closer to a construction site or bunch of landscapers aggressive, fast paced and lots of swearing and insults.
because the last thing a chef wants to do when they get home is cook once again
I think its because the times when chefs are required is also when women need to be at home looking after the children (traditionally)
It can be summarised out that every high pace hyper professional profession which leaves almost no home time are dominated by men.
Although I guess it depends where "chef" description ends because it's prob more even towards the lower rungs in gender representation than in the high end super famous chefs.
Most chefs are still dudes even in lower end restaurants, for some reason ladies just don't seem to be attracted to back of house positions in restaurants on average. Typically a chef is delineated from a cook in the vein that they manage the kitchen and make the menu, or handle food stock orders, although this is just my experience.
It's more so interesting to figure out where people draw the line, let's say we have super famous chefs, then tv chefs under that, then chefs who aren't head chef working in those restaurant, then going further down to local cafes serving burgers, are they chefs? What about the head chef in a McDonald's kitchen, is he a chef? What about a local owned takeaway place that is just the wife cooking in her kitchen is she a chef? What about a dude at a hotdog stand?
Essentially I think chef here only describes a specific elite,which are often hyper competitive and career based rather than simply a job
"For some reason"...
What do you think those reasons might be?
When you can get paid more, men are all over it.
It's a lot of hard, physically demanding work more suited to men. Restaurant work, especially the higher-end ones, is super competitive and high pressure. I think this is changing though as most reputable restaurants try to hire a few girls to balance out the team or else your kitchen becomes a pirate ship. Not only do women keep the kitchen cleaner and more organized, but the men shape up their act and are more respectable, at least from my experience. I'm from Asia though, We're more conservative and guys are expected to be more gentleman-y (no lewd jokes in front of women, etc.)
I guess it's a question of scale. The Housewife cooks, cleans, knits, sews etc. They have a broad range of activities they perform.
Cooking at scale is a specialist activity requiring a different set of skills, and the time and training to focus on that. Men have historically been the ones capable of focusing on their profession to facilitate cooking at scale.
Maybe because those women don't LET men cook at home so they have to go elsewhere to do it?
I heard that men have more stable hormones cycles so therefore their taste remains almost same during life
Because cooking is a career and women aren't capable of handling those
Cooking in a restaurant and cooking to feed your family is entirely different.
"I do all the cooking at home. My husband is grateful to have food put in front of him. He also doesn't husband impression demand it resemble the Taj Mahal!" -Victoria Coren Mitchell
My mom never cooks, she works.
Being a cook and being a chef are two completely different things.
Was looking for this answer. I mean afaik the chefs in the restaurants design the menu and perhaps supervise the kitchen, but don't really get that much involved in the day-to-day cooking, am I right? Perhaps someone from the restaurant business can corret me if I'm wrong.
I work in a restaurant. Unfortunately you are wrong. The chefs do all of the things you describeβ¦but they do the majority of the cooking as well.
Chefs do the cooking and taste everything and are responsible for every dish that comes out of the kitchen.
Line chefs do the prep and what the chef tells them.
My fiancΓ© does the cooking because she is simply better at it. In my brother's house he dose the cooking because he is better at it. I do the dishes and my sister-in-law does the dishes there.
It was only traditional when women were not working and people could afford 1 income households. Now it's whoever is better at cooking while the other does the dishes, or at least in successful marriages that's how it is.
In terms of division of labor its one of the more simple ones.
One is a chore, the other is art.
Good home cooking is a wondrous delight. And while it was never fair that this responsibility fell on our grandmothers, I'm so very sad that young people won't have the experience of a master with a lifetime of experience meticulously making traditional dishes for their loved ones.
It hits different, man. I wish I'd learned her recipes, but she'd never have taught me.
Because women's labor is expected to be free.
The reason is that men are expendable, meaning high risk-high reward behaviours are OK, meaning men become extremists more often. That's why men go all in (more often).
That's a great argument senator. Why don't you give us a source?
You need a source for super obvious things?
A source? Psychology broadly isn't science. There could potentially be some study, but typically you have to infer the fact from general behaviours. Same reason why the majority of chess grandmasters are men.
Cooks are indeed in the most extremist. Have you seen Gordon Ramsay seasoning a meal.
Because one is just the homemaker which is generally women (though stay at home dads are becoming more common now and honestly everyone should learn to cook , it saves money and you get good food) and one is a profession which is very demanding and tough. Plus when you spend a lot of time cooking at home you will have 0 interest to cook as a profession or vice versa, I do the cooking and I'm damn good at it but I'd hate it if I was doing it professionally as a job
And It's not that women can't do it or won't do it but there is a distinct difference in risk aversion for women vs men as women are less likely to take jobs that will intentionally stress them out and slowly destroy their bodies or that have a very significant risk of getting burnt out or seriously injured.
Mom cooks food, dad cooks nades
My bf does all the cooking he is amazing at it I'm rubbish... but I have tried and he says my beans on toast is the best cos I put cheese on to disguise the burnt toast n mashed up beans where iv over cooked them lol π
I mean women need to contribute SOMETHING right? /s
Because men do things better
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If there is a path of ambition that leads to a certain status men are bound to take interest. (Before you go mad this doesn't exclude women)
Because to be a chef you need to actually cook good /j
As a male home chef, I have pondered this in the kitchen oft.
Exactly this !! Gen X here and female I was working as a chef before it was more common and a guy was blown away by that thinking it was weird
Then I asked him well who cooked in your house your mom or your dad ? He answered mom and then said you are right it shouldn't be weird
It probably clash more because of what the kitchen culture in restaurants used to be than the action itself.
Very mature of him to accept it so quickly instead of doubling down like too many others would today.
anything a man is paid for , he does it very well haha but poor women , they are cooking for free π₯²
I literally know housewives by choice because they make their husbands pay for everything. It's not cooking for "free" at all.
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If you are good at something, never do it for free.
My mom fed our asses TV dinners and fast food most of the time. I've since gained a passion for cooking and split the duty with my S.O.
Women traditionally cook for their families and therefore aren't getting the work experience to have a resume capable of landing a chef job.
Men traditionally work, and often restaurants have jobs.
I know a professional chef. His wife was a stay at home wife. He cooked 5 days a week, she cooked 7.
Someone needs to cook for the cooks
Jobs that involve 12+ hour workdays are rarely worked by women. A combination of expected duties at home and the professions typically being dominated by people with ASPD, who are 5:1 men.