This logic makes no sense. If a team got zero hits off of two different pitchers, and you conclude that it just means that team sucked that day, why do you not think the same thing about a team that got zero hits off of one pitcher?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Because one pitcher went the whole game with his team backing him up. My line is at 1 pitcher. Where's yours? 2 pitchers? What about 3 or 4? What if the whole roster pitched? (OK, that would be awesome but against rules)

by Anonymous 1 year ago

But these are two separate issues. If the team sucked that day, they sucked....which means them going hitless against a single pitcher isn't impressive, either. Holding the other team hitless is an accomplishment regardless of the number of pitchers who pitched. It's not as big of an individual accomplishment because no single pitcher pitched an entire hitless game. But the entire team was still held hitless for the entire game, so it's of course an accomplishment.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yeah, it's a lesser accomplishment. What about the fact that a combined means they pulled a pitcher throwing a no-hitter?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

But you're saying it's not an accomplishment at all. If a team can make another MLB team go hitless, that's an accomplishment. It's silly to argue otherwise. And clearly pulling the pitcher worked since the other team didn't get a hit for the rest of the game.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yes. It's not an accomplishment. It's a failure of the other team.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

And how do you know the other team didn't fail in the case of a one-pitcher no-hitter? You know nothing more about whether it was an other team failure in the two-pitcher case than in the one-pitcher case.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Maybe they did, but the one pitcher had to throw at least 100 game pitches over 9 innings. It's a very different thing.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Of course. I'm not saying they aren't different things.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I hate when they take out a pitcher throwing a no-hitter. Yes analytics, blah blah blah. These are young, strong athletes. Let them at least try to go the distance.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Right? God forbid a Dodger pitcher get close to a no-hitter! That's another reason you made me realize I hate the combined! It means they took a guy out throwing a no-hitter!

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It's a great team achievement in a team sport

by Anonymous 1 year ago

While I agree they don't hold the same level of accomplishment, they are still rare and worthy of some note. Managers today hold their pitchers to a fairly strict pitch count. If your guy has a no hitter after 7 but is already at 100 pitches there is no way he's going to complete 9.

by Anonymous 1 year ago