Gamers complaining about casuals are the problem, not casual players themselves, amirite?

This just makes me think of elden ring players always saying you didn't technically beat the game because you used magic lol

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Those players are very dumb.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

They're just upset they got bullied into not using magic lol

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It's not like difficulty levels exist or anything. Why is this even an issue?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Well for the games from fromsoft at least, there aren't difficulty options. That's actually a common argument where elitists will argue that they will somehow effect their own experience, or even worse argue people won't be enjoying the game correctly

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Hey hey hey, I am a lifelong gamer here, I make the rules, we cannot have people enjoying games. If they aren't stressing themselves out and falling into a deeper hole of hating life by playing a game the designers did a bad job.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I remember arguing with Dark Souls fans that boss run backs are a trash mechanic that just doesn´t respect the players´ time and the amount of pushback I got on that was astounding. So I can´t really take that community seriously. Stuff like this probably also occurs in other fandoms.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Honestly to me that's a huge deal breaker. I've been more aware of a game not respecting my time ever since I delve into the souls genre. Now a days, I hate any downtime, because of it. Also after playing NIOH 2. While the game isn't perfect, it definitely has less downtime , more action focused. As soon as you're playing, things get moving quick. I feel so depressed, when a game has so much down time. Dumb games sometimes having a respawn mechanic that makes you watch a whole cutscene or dialogue before letting you attempt again. Like why! Demon souls left a bitter taste. The runbacks are F'n cancerous. Beat the whole level to fight the boss, but if you die, they send you back to the begining. I'm familiar with these games, and it's fine when you get at least descent shortcuts. Without them, you're just hitting a lot of downtime, and I'm literally playing a walking simulator aka runback. Yeah the souls fans are so defensive about a really bad game design. It's ok , when it works, but when the shortcut isn't there, it's pretty bad. I like how some of them can try so hard to justify it. Like dude, " the game is good, but it does have flaws". No need to get defensive about it.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

The funny thing is that Fromsoft agrees with you. Elden Ring has plenty of sites of grace right outside the Boss Room

by Anonymous 1 year ago

So FromSoft disagrees with their own elitist fanbase? Based.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

WoW players love rebuffing and boss run back.... WoW raiding completely disrespects your time. I raid, I would say 1 out of every 3 wipes during the runback someone goes AFK. When the boss encounters are already 5-10 minutes a pull, and if your team has any chance of beating them you are likely 60%-99% through that time frame for each wipe. adding in a several minute runback with all the rebuffing, eating food for 15 seconds, etc. Giving people time to AFK, it really disrespects your time.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Adding internet to gaming ruined it.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Don't forget streamers too. They have ruined it too

by Anonymous 1 year ago

For you. If you let some idiots online ruin something for you, you clearly never liked it in the first place. Try have a backbone.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Casuals? No. Whales. Whales are the life blood of gaming. Gaming serves the whales. -sincerely, a casual gamer tired of micro transactions.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

There's tons and tons and tons of games with no microtransactions. Even on mobile you have options.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

The issue is that for a long time game developers were catering hard to casuals, like really hard. It's why when the souls games reared their head people went crazy for it. Here was an unashamedly hard game that you can feel satisfaction for beating. There may be more casuals than hard-core players, but that doesn't mean we don't deserve games that appeal to our sensibilities.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Casuals dumbed everything down. Video games have become so boring and repetitive because this is the market developers' pander to. I rarely ever play anymore. And I used to play 4 to 12 hours a day for many years.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Sounds like a you problem, gaming is as good as ever.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Guess it's obvious which type of gamer you are lol. You clearly aren't that old if you can't see the trend of games getting easier and more hand holdy over the last 20 years.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

for every "hand holdy" game you can find theres one thats hard as balls. look harder.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

eeh, idk about that tbf. late 360/ps3 was the peak

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Sure. If you're a casual who likes linear game play, extreme auto aim and enemies thar are never too much of a challenge. You don't even have to use your brain to play an RPG anymore. Things started to change right around the time of TES Oblivion and has gotten worse ever since. Go back and play Daggerfall or Morrowind and compare how much more depth there was to them compared to Oblivion and Skyrim.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Some you do, some you don't. Like I said it's a you problem, there's great games out there you just aren't putting in the effort to find them.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

They are way too few and far between. Even when you do find something occasionally. Long-term support never happens. Just like the few multi-player gems I would get into. Everyone would leave after finding it too hard and eventually the servers are pulled from the hardcore community because they aren't making microtransaction revenue off of impulsive children like COD and Fortnite.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Skill issue

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yes. Nobody wants to learn how to play. They want the game to do most of the work. Ever since that happened, it's just pointless, streamlined grinding.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This is unpopular?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

When I read this I think of rainbow six siege

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It gives off the same vibes as people at the gym making fun of people showing up trying to get in to it. Like y'all you've gotta start somewhere

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Exactly!

by Anonymous 1 year ago

You mean gatekeeping. Yes, you are correct and this does not just go for gamers.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Sounds about right. CSGO

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Non casual gamers either do it for money (appreciate the hustle) or are filthy little piggies (wash ur butt pls)

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This seems like a popular opinion to me. Most gamers are casual and want nothing to do with hardcore gamers. While I pass no judgement on hardcore gamers, they ruin my gaming experience. I'm just a dude that likes to turn on a game for an hour on a Friday and have some fun. While I'm not a scrub at the games I play, I cannot compete with those that purchase material and play all day. On the same token, I'm glad the serious gamers exist because they are just as needed in gaming communities as casual players.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

ehh. You're kinda right but also the people complaining about casuals are usually unemployed and/or have multiple smurf accounts so they don't have to play in their real ELO. In any case they're so pathetic/degenerate it's almost hard to get mad at them.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This is such cope to not feel bad about others being better. Some people are just better at games. They do a full time job too, and they are on their main, they are just better. You don't have to put them down to feel better about yourself.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Its really complicated, because there is no black and white. My Ex wisely said as I was complaining about the Saints Row Reboot "You are not the main target. The product is now focused on the Z Gen and not on us Millenials or Boomers, we are just a bonus" At the other hand, boycotting games is useless. People that only play Fifa and CoD wont care about the Communitys and the Games Industry. They will still buy tons of MTX, Lootboxes and DLC. They dont care or dont know, but they made I think minimum 90% of the income for like Sony, MS, Activision etc.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Gatekeeping is bad in all areas. Games, music, fandoms. People liking the things you like isn't a big deal, it's the people who derive their sense of self from a particular thing that tend to cause all the issues in a community.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

The problem isn't people liking what I like it's people that worm their way in don't like it have never liked it and will never like it demanding it changes some people can go too far but gatekeeping is essential in all things, especially hobbies

by Anonymous 1 year ago

F yeah! This person gets it. Yeah like the game not being for that person, but then this person wanting the game to revolve around them. It's not for you! You don't have to like it! It's not for you! That's ok! It doesn't have to be for you!🤦 these people.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I would have completely disagreed with you 10-15 years ago. But now? Totally agree. A certain amount of gatekeeping is needed to keep a thing that you like from changing into something that you don't like.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

"The problem isnt the problem, the people mentioning the problem are the problem!"

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Casual gamers aren't a problem though.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

They're not the problem. So many long time, hardcore franchises deciding to cater to them at the expense of their long time player base is.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This is a problem web3 will solve.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Gamers complain about casuals? Actually what even counts as a casual?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

For the elitists, anyone that doesn't play the game "right"

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Gamer elitism just plain sucks.

by Anonymous 1 year ago