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It's easy to make everything a conspiracy when you don't know how anything works. amirite?
by Anonymous1 year ago
I've always stood by Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute maliciousness to that which can be explained by incompetence.
by Anonymous1 year ago
There are a lot of maliciously incompetent people in the world.
by Anonymous1 year ago
That's a bit different than Hanlon's Razor I think. Malicious incompetence, weaponized incompetence, whatever you want to call it comes from a different place. In those cases, the person is well aware they don't know how to do something or have knowledge of how something works, and make the conscious choice to avoid learning it. That cognizant effort to avoid learning disqualifies it from falling under the umbrella of Hanlon's Razor.
The theory is specifically for people who don't know any better. It was somewhat misquoted above, and it isn't incompetence, but stupidity that is mentioned. Big distinction, in my mind.
by Anonymous1 year ago
i prefer mehrunes razor, personally
by Anonymous1 year ago
I use Harry's razors
by Anonymous1 year ago
Hitchen's Razor and Occam's Razor are also great.
"That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" and "the answer that makes the fewest assumptions is to be preferred", respectively.
by Anonymous1 year ago
yeah but i have a link to a crappy website with even crappier scans of crappy xeroxes of heavily-redacted documents that are otherwise indecipherable, so, you know, that's pretty much all the evidence i need
by Anonymous1 year ago
I also need a 9 hour "documentary" on youtube.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Why are all of these principles called "razors"?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Some philosopher was feeling edgy.
by Anonymous1 year ago
afaik, they're all named after Occam's razor.
Why it's called that, I do not know.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yeah, the problem with all of these razors is that the assertions that are dismissed could still be correct, it's just that you don't know.
There's a difference between not having enough information to know if something is correct and dismissing it and knowing for a fact that something is incorrect.
That said, don't drink poisoned Kool-Aid.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Or Flavor Aid, the stuff used at Jonestown.
I wonder if "big cola" is behind this conspiracy to impugn Kool-Aid.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I would think that in any case, it's quite possible that someone would be inspired to use Kool-Aid in imitation of Jim Jones rather than Flavor-Aid simply because "drinking the Kool-Aid" is a commonly used phrase in our culture. It would also have the advantage that you could tell people:
"Look, there is nothing wrong with drinking the Kool-Aid, it's the *Flavor Aid* that poisons you. With your level of spiritual enlightenment, it is now possible to know this fact reserved for initiates and *safely*, due to the power afforded by God, drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid. But *not* Flavor-Aid, which may only be imbibed safely by *higher-level* initiates."
by Anonymous1 year ago
Flavor Aid had better flavors than Kool-Aid, it's no wonder they used it instead.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Right, but it doesn't purport to give you perfect knowledge, just a useful heuristic to approach novel problems with.
Like the phrase "when you hear hoofbeats, think Horse, not Zebra", there are of course scenarios where it would be better to first think of a zebra rather than a horse, and there are other scenarios where you'd be right to first think of a horse, but it is actually a zebra.
It remains a useful exercise for reminding yourself to start with the simplest explanations for things unless and until you have more information that challenges that approach.
When investigating a murder, unless there is clear evidence to suggest otherwise, most police start with the assumption that it was a a spurned lover or some such other common scenario rather than that it was an assassination. If the victim is a world leader, that likely jumps higher on their list of explanations, and even if it's not, it still *could* be an assassination, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to initially dismiss the idea that Janet from maintenance was assassinated rather than killed by a jealous lover, or a home invasion gone wrong or some other such banal explanation.
In other words, yes, you will sometimes correctly use Occam's razor and be *wrong*, but more often than not, you will be correct.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I don't know if it has an official name (it's often been misattributed to Carl Sagan), but I'm quite fond of
>If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth.
by Anonymous1 year ago
"Woops."
-Eichmann
by Anonymous1 year ago
PGMOL in a nutshell.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It always comes down to the details for me.
Hit the wrong peddle and rammed a car? Well she is 16, nervous, and first issue on record.. most likely incompetence.
Ex school principal claiming he didn't know how a fire alarm works... malicious.
by Anonymous1 year ago
That's exactly what you'd want me to think! I see right through you.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Beware, OP is a false flag. I mean literally a sentient flag which doesn't correspond to any actual country but looks a lot like it does. False flags have been controlling the world for a long time. The Habsburgs were all false flags of the Moon! The Windsors are all false flags of Uglybourg!
by Anonymous1 year ago
I forget the exact quote but someone once said something like, conspiracy theorists think that exciting secret powers control the world, rather than the blatant boring malicious powers that do.
by Anonymous1 year ago
they apply chess board logic to a ouija board world
by Anonymous1 year ago
Or maybe the other way around? But it's definitely one of those two
by Anonymous1 year ago
I work on a few high level satellite programs and the number of people I meet giving me the nudge-nudge-wink-wink to let them in on how much I'm getting paid to lie about the Earth being round is just ridiculous.
by Anonymous1 year ago
So…how much?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Needs more nudging and winking if you want to get an answer 😉
by Anonymous1 year ago
Big Maps and Big Globes are behind all of it.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Haha idiots. They probably don't even know you signed an NDA so you can't tell them.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I don't believe you. I've never met a flat earther in real life... only on the internet. You're talking like these people are common.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Whatever you say, bud.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ooo...oooo....I know one!
by Anonymous1 year ago
I dated a guy once that was just ... really not that bright. And he would come to me with conspiracy theories about basic stuff that had already been proven in science 🤦 just because he didn't know it, he assumed nobody else did either
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ooh do you have an example? Not to make fun, just to understand his point of view
by Anonymous1 year ago
There is a limit to how simple a truth can be explained while still being true. There is no limit to how simple a lie can be made.
by Anonymous1 year ago
This is actually how most religions got started. People didn't know how things worked, so they made up reasons for how things worked.
by Anonymous1 year ago
God of the gaps. If you don't know how something works, it's God's will. If you challenge God's will, it's blasphemy. Just ask Galileo.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Just a clarification here: this is how *mythology* started. And while most religions also include one or more mythologies (typically, at minimum, a creation myth) the religion part was about establishing common moral, behavioral, and health codes before we had the technology and wealth required for secular legal system.
by Anonymous1 year ago
the invention of lying if you will
by Anonymous1 year ago
I swear I haven't slept with anyone. God impregnated me. I'm going to have God's baby. Which is God.
You got to have faith ah faith ah faith.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I'd actually say It's easy to make everything a conspiracy when you look it in a ignorant point of view
for example: I don't believe in buses. How tf can you enter in a 24,387lbs steel box in a place and leave it in another place??? How can you guys believe it?
by Anonymous1 year ago
I've always seen it as, "sure, I'm not very smart, and I made every attempt to resist education and learning things, and the garbage state of my life is pretty much due to my insistence on making bad and uninformed decisions… but what if nothing was my fault and I was actually super smart because I'm one of the select few who can *see through the lies*??? Yeah, that sounds much better."
by Anonymous1 year ago
As someone who does penetration testing and security for a living. Knowing more has made me understand just how fragile/exploitable our current world is. We live in a house of glass mate, no conspiracy about it.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Who told you to say that?!
by Anonymous1 year ago
Someone trying to cover up something, I'd say!
by Anonymous1 year ago
I've found most conspiracy nuts are people that are dumber than they realize, and they use their lack of understanding to justify believing their conspiracy.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Conspiracy theories have replaced religion for a lot of people.
Kind of a lateral move, IMO.
by Anonymous1 year ago
They fill the same function: to explain the unknown. Is science too complicated?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Omg.....I get it now. They don't understand how it works, so instead of just admitting that in shame, they make up a way that it works that makes sense to them, and act like they know something nobody else has figured out........
by Anonymous1 year ago
I think it's a bit more meta than that.
The conspiracy may be to flood people with wrong conspiracy theories in order to make it hard to see the actual conspiracies that are going on. This actually has a name - disinformation, which is a euphemism for psychological warfare. There is evidence that we are in a very high stakes, huge information war right now.
Never attribute maliciousness to that which can be explained by incompetence. However, I think the caveat is that this only applies to situations where there isn't huge incentive to be malicious and where there are many filters for competence - in which case the simplest explanation for incompetence is that it is actually maliciousness disguised as incompetence.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I don't know how an engine works — it must be the rich elite infusing adrenachrome in the gasoline that makes my car move
by Anonymous1 year ago
That's exactly what they want us to think!!!
by Anonymous1 year ago
They don't want you to think
by Anonymous1 year ago
Not a conspiracy but I had a friend give me his revolutionary idea that all life on earth originates from the sun.
Which, awesome that he figured that out on his own but also disappointing that he had to figure that out on his own.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It's also easy when you get to know human nature and know all the terrible things people in power have done.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yeah, listened to last podcast on the lefts MKultra series, and the guys start out with saying that after doing so much research into it, they feel more susceptible to conspiracy nonsense because theres just so much insanity, and almost all of it right under societies nose
by Anonymous1 year ago
Its a conspiracy that they make things exactly the way that I wouldn't understand!!!
-Some idiot somewhere, probably
by Anonymous1 year ago
Sometimes it is actually a conspiracy!
by Anonymous1 year ago
"That's now how that works" is almost always my answer when I hear a far-fetched theory.
by Anonymous1 year ago
When you believe in things you don't understand, then you suffer.
by Anonymous1 year ago
"The truth does not do as much good in the world as the appearance of truth does evil." -Dying russian man.
by Anonymous1 year ago
You're explaining religion
by Anonymous1 year ago
It's not just that they don't know, it's that the evidence indicates that their preferred beliefs aren't true.
by Anonymous1 year ago
And often that anything is other people. Lots of conspiracy theories tend to forget motives and logistics, overestimate people's competency or ability to keep secrets while also vastly overestimating their own importance. Most tend to fall apart at the how/why though.
by Anonymous1 year ago
My common sense doesn't care for your facts and peer-reviewed studies.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Well education is just Jewish indoctrination aimed at hiding the flat earth! WAKE UP SHEEAPLEE!!!1
by Anonymous1 year ago
Birds aren't real...
by Anonymous1 year ago
When you don't know anything, everything seems possible.
by Anonymous1 year ago
bro discovered how religions work
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yeah sadly I have friends parents that believe the earth is flat, geology science is a conspiracy and striated rocks are caused by the great Noah flood. Not even satellites are real. One guess which political party they support….
by Anonymous1 year ago
That's not how that works.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It how it works, for example, people that say that the government is putting tracking chips in vaccines, doesn't have any idea how technological challenging that is, you need like nanotechnology, battery technology, chip technology, signal technology that doesn't exist. And if it existed the first thing that the people in power will do is use this technology to make themselves young again and immortal.
by Anonymous1 year ago
it's precisely how that works. see, how it is, is, there are two conjoined triangles of success. you have engineering and sales on the sides, and some other things that are there to add up to total excellence
by Anonymous1 year ago
Every decade I see more and more corruption, and it's almost never 1 person. It's almost always 2 or more people conspiring for their own benefit.
But they don't admit it, they give an official story that absolves them of any wrong doing.
It happens constantly at every level.
Anyone questioning the official story is a conspiracy theorist until 40 years later we all quietly learn the deception was a mask hiding foul play and bad motives.
Name almost any historical event and the official story is hiding the foul play.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yeap, there hasn't been a single conspiracy in the history of the world. All the things that are written in history books are truth.
by Anonymous1 year ago
The existence of actual conspiracies doesn't make other conspiracy theories true.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Noticed you felt like this was a personal attack, interesting.
by Anonymous1 year ago
No such thing as conspiracies. People don't understand how many people it takes to have a conspiracy. 13 people minimal.
by Anonymous1 year ago
And why don't I know how everything works? Cause of the conspiracy.
by Anonymous1 year ago
This is why we have religion.
by Anonymous1 year ago
First good one in months
by Anonymous1 year ago
aka when you're not smart, u dumb!
by Anonymous1 year ago
Can't you say the same thing when you dismiss every conspiracy?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Couldn't have said it better myself. When we don't understand something, it's easy to fill in the gaps with wild theories and assumptions. But sometimes it's better to admit our ignorance and seek out the truth.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Exactly what a lizard person who can smell our brainwaves would say...
by Anonymous1 year ago
Have y'all seen the latest apparently Taylor swift and travis kelce relationship is staged by the nfl and her PR team
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