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Professionalism, especially with regard to stringent dress codes, is outdated and nonsensical, amirite?
by Anonymous8 months ago
Wearing clothes is a social construct.
Not being cannibalistic is a social construct.
Make your argument, but leave that out.
by Anonymous8 months ago
This is a horrendous idea. Less and less workplaces makes you wear a tie these days, which is the real problem with suits anyway.
But, like, have you ever seen how people treat you when you have a suit on versus when you don't? That's why people dress up for work.
by Anonymous8 months ago
I was always told by my gram you treat the janitor in smocks with the same amount of respect as the CEO in a suit.
by Anonymous8 months ago
I've worked in government and at a financial institution and nobody actually wears suits unless they are doing some kind of public event.
Like on any given day the CEO will be walking around in a button down and slacks.
by Anonymous8 months ago
I swear to God anybody who insists they're treated better in a suit has to have the most bummy casual style, or are actually just suit obsessed and seeing ghosts.
by Anonymous8 months ago
>But, like, have you ever seen how people treat you when you have a suit on versus when you don't? That's why people dress up for work.
can we learn to admit how stupid this is? if you treat me better because i dressed up then i want nothing to do with you
by Anonymous8 months ago
Depends on the setting I guess. Probably wouldn't be a good idea for an attorney to show up in court in his pajamas
by Anonymous8 months ago
Seriously why is it "Suit or Pajamas" There's so many degrees of clothing between those two.
by Anonymous8 months ago
so T-shirt and jean then. is that better?
by Anonymous8 months ago
Makes a lot more sense as something people are more likely to wear. Mostly I was tired of being dragged for using the PJ example that was not my example.
by Anonymous8 months ago
Strajety!!
by Anonymous8 months ago
Mutual respect enabling more positive collaboration and progress is timeless
by Anonymous8 months ago
We do it because we want others to do it.
by Anonymous8 months ago
If it's a job where you are regularly interacting with clients and the public, I don't necessarily mind a dress code, depending on the field. But if it's the kind of job where you're just on a computer or on the phone all day and nobody outside the company sees you, you should be able to wear whatever you want.
by Anonymous8 months ago
Most companies have relaxed their dress codes anyway. I work in accounting and just wear an untucked polo & jeans every day. Hardly anyone in our office wears a suit & tie, not even the execs.
by Anonymous8 months ago
It's not a matter of Boomer anything. No one wants to buy food from a guy who looks like he carries more diseases than the rat he just stomped on. Nobody wants to buy a car or appliance from a guy who hasn't mastered the basic concept of pants, and nobody wants to do regular business with someone who looks like they reek of rancid milk and their own urine. What is or isn't "professional" changes (believe me, it's a lot more lax, these days), but basic precepts of acceptable dress are pretty solid. (Source: I used to think the same way, until I learned the hard way that businesses don't set the dress code, they just conform to it.)
by Anonymous8 months ago
Grooming and dress are related, but they aren't the same thing. In fact, I'd argue that you can get away with being underdressed a lot of the time as long as you take care of yourself everywhere else.
by Anonymous8 months ago
The way the world works, is you're more than free to start a business without any such strict dress code.
If others actually see it as a big deal like you do, you'll find you can attract better talent for less money (since the lack of strict dress code is worth something to them), and then you make more profits from better understanding people than current business owners.
Good luck.
by Anonymous8 months ago
Firstly. Love that the fact society got us to this point that people like you can have a moan about having to dress nice.
So you'd allow your employees to wear bikinis?
by Anonymous8 months ago
I think most people are talking about wearing a T-shirt and jeans to work rather than a bikini, but maybe I'm wrong.
by Anonymous8 months ago
I just making the point that he'll still have rules based on social norms.
by Anonymous8 months ago
yea h but the dress code isn't for most people. every office job ive had , polo and non wrinkled jeans w=or better were fine , if the pay were higher im sure we have been expected to wear button up and slacks. but if i made that kidn of money id wear button ups and slacks anyway , because i care about my opinion and want to be seen as professional. but the guy that wears a heavy metal band t shirt every day . that guy has to be told what to wear .
by Anonymous8 months ago
>but if i made that kidn of money id wear button ups and slacks anyway
i wouldn't. i don't care what people think of me
by Anonymous8 months ago
you do if you want a raise lol
by Anonymous8 months ago
I suppose it won't be fine as long as it wasn't a health and safety hazard
by Anonymous8 months ago
I have to say I agree with OP.
That, and "nicer" clothes are more expensive
in general.
If a company wants you in a uniform, they should be providing that for you or providing a reasonable allowance for you to purchase the needed items.
If they want you in a button down shirt and tie, jacket, slacks and nice shoes, the pay better well compensate it. At a corporate level where salaries start around the 100k level and up (for the US as example), it's reasonable to
expect you to be wearing "nicer" clothing, such as possibly polos and khakis (as a baseline example, other reasonable options exist), but a suit or dress daily can be damn expensive and unnecessary for any "office" environment.
Expecting those working in service jobs such as retail, car rental etc to be in expensive clothing when the pay and amenities do zero to compensate is idiocy.
by Anonymous8 months ago
Ok, so slovenly wins the day? Pajamas fridays? Nope.
by Anonymous8 months ago
why nope?
by Anonymous8 months ago
business dress codes arent for you, there form the dude 3 cubicles away that would wear paint cover jeans with a wife beater every day if we let him.
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