+149 Intentionally losing in rock, paper, scissor is as difficult as winning it. amirite?

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Always use paper and they will figure it out before long.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

*\*Thinks to self\** "Surely they wouldn't use paper a ***3rd*** time..."

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Nobody expects the 8th paper!

by Anonymous 8 months ago

No way this guy's gonna use paper for the 47th time…

by Anonymous 8 months ago

This 68 paper streak has to end eventually...

by Anonymous 8 months ago

[Uses scissors 69 times] Nice.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

"Which mean it's either scissor or rock. Rock beats scissor and ties rock. I can't lose. Rock it is."

by Anonymous 8 months ago

i literally tell people "im going rock" every round, and then i do. first round: "he's obviously trying to trick me" second round: "ok but he'll switch it this time..." third round: "Surely they wouldn't use ~~paper~~ rock a ***3rd*** time..." the real trick is when playing again, months later, to do it again. the time after that though, switch it up. that only works on people you see regularly though

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Good old paper. Nothing beats that.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Except scissors

by Anonymous 8 months ago

He was thinking of rock, rock breaks scissors, rock weighs down paper.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Poor predictable Bart.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Always chooses rock. Bart inner voice "good ole rock, nothin beats rock"

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Except rock…. Wait

by Anonymous 8 months ago

You guys never used nukes?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

*"I'm lava. What beats that?"* *"Hopefully my dad"*

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I won a tournament once by playing exclusively rock. Four rounds, four different players fell to my superior strategy

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Good ol' rock, never fails. Doh!

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Smashy Smashy

by Anonymous 8 months ago

"Hey I'm playing paper this time." Easy.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

That's what someone who will play rock would say.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

The only thing more unexpected than the 16th paper in a row is the 17th.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Then you upgrade to Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Nope I always only ever play paper unless I *really* want to win or mess with people and it usually works in my favor. One of my favourite little things to do

by Anonymous 8 months ago

What if they always use paper?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

*"Patrick, how come you always do paper?"*

by Anonymous 8 months ago

iirc the most commonly used is rock, so to intentionally lose it's better to play scissors every time

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I don't know, I have a buddy that would literally say "I'm going to choose scissors" before hand and he won a surprising amount of times

by Anonymous 8 months ago

okay, but I always choose the fist.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

But that's a winning strategy if your opponent is also trying to lose intentionally.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Fun story: I was at a corporate event where they wanted the entire 1k person crowd to engage in a Rock Paper Scissors tournament. Play the person next to you, best 2 of 3, sit down if you lose, keep playing people standing up, etc. My goal was to not be involved in silly event shenanigans and get out immediately. I told my first opponent that I would be picking paper each time, in hopes that he would knock me out quickly. He called my bluff by picking rock each time and forcing me to win... Long story short, I made it much farther in that tournament than I care to admit by using that strategy and realizing other people were more than happy to eliminate themselves too.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

You just gave them an easy way out

by Anonymous 8 months ago

there's a south park episode just like this except with baseball.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Game Theory 101

by Anonymous 8 months ago

or the other guys also wanted out

by Anonymous 8 months ago

You know, there's like an official tournament for Rock, Paper, Scissors in Japan.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

You don't happen to work for 5 guys do you?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Negative

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Heard that. We did that last year at our conference

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Just the 1

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I did the same thing at amazon and i made it to the final two, decided to switch it up, lo and behold i would have won if i hadnt haha

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Good ol' rock. Nothing beats that!

by Anonymous 8 months ago

well nothing except paper

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I hosted a RPS tournament in college, and as hard as it is to believe, there were a few people that had viable strategies. Your average Joe won't, but it's possible to be "good" at RPS, most people are just playing as they go, though.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

What I pick is the counter to the counter of what I think they think I will pick, so if I think they see me as a scissors kinda guy (rookie mistake), I‘ll go paper. It also depends on how much rps has already been played shortly before

by Anonymous 8 months ago

This especially works when you go 2 out of 3. If you win the first time with rock, like 80% of people (estimate, I didn't test this) will pick paper the next time because in their head, paper would have won the last match. If you lose with rock, the person played paper. They'll assume you will play scissors because that's what would have bested them, so I play paper. I almost always win 2 out of 3 with this strategy. Unless someone else is using it.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Yup that's the main strategy once you've already played a few rounds and seen what the others picked

by Anonymous 8 months ago

The thing about this is that you have to set this up very early in advance. Show up wearing a scissors shirt. Wear jewelry that looks like tiny scissors. Talk about how you like to cut things. Loudly proclaim scissors as the best tool humanity has ever invented. Ask everyone about their favorite movies and say yours is Edward Scissorhands. Once you get to favorite lesbian sex positions, your win is almost guaranteed.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

That's what we see when we get to the real rock paper scissors hustlers

by Anonymous 8 months ago

What the heck does a scissors kind of guy look like ?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

They're usually the cocky amateurs who believe nothing can be more efficient, more deadly than the scissors, until they see a rock

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Yes, and you could use said strategies to intentionally loose as much as you can use them to win. but it absolutely is as difficult as it is to win.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

It's pretty straightforward to start out. If you challenge them, play paper. Most people who are unprepared pick rock. If they challenge you, pick scissors. Most people who are prepared never pick rock. If you tie, pick the thing that loses to the thing you've just played. most people will instinctively switch to the thing that beats what was just played.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

This is also my strategy, I always cycle backwards.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Yes, for whatever silly psychological reason the three options are not equally likely among naive players. More advanced players know this and play accordingly. It's then a matter of estimating your opponent's level, but you can get a better than 1/3 chance if you go into it.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I just do rock every time. I always win because people try to get in my head and anticipate my strategy.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Well that and nothing beats trusty rock

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Sure, paper covers it, but it's not like the rock cares. It doesn't have eyes. The paper can do nothing to hurt the rock. But if you hold up the paper and throw the rock at it, it will tear the paper. Rock always wins.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

No one can hurt The Rock

by Anonymous 8 months ago

i just do rock because I don't have to move my fingers

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I like using 2 fingers, and then lying about it being "scissors".

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I always choose rock and will randomly play with friends, they know I choose rock. Then when its rock paper scissors for something that matters, its scissors. (Also I've noticed that in the first round most people choose scissors first)

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Just announce your next move…

by Anonymous 8 months ago

This is like the biggest mind game ever, how will your opponent know you'll follow through?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Reminds me of one of the Sam & Max games, where you have to intentionally lose a game of Tic-Tac-Toe against an idiotic AI that unintentionally makes every wrong move.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I announce my moves and usually win. Then I get to say it pays to be honest.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I once made a dude mad at me on the school bus because I beat him 4 of 5 times lol. He got real upset because "guys always pick x first" was his strategy and I didn't and "I threw him off his game" after that lol. Like 6 people on the bus watching and laughing while he fumes over RPS lol.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Uh no? Just keep throwing the same sign over and over again.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

what? that's my strategy for winning. Am I doing RPS wrong?

by Anonymous 8 months ago

That's not a bad winning strategy actually. Usually trips people up

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Deliberately losing 10 times to surprise the other party once when you switch doesn't seem like a winning strategy.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

My games usually don't go to best of 625

by Anonymous 8 months ago

No, it's easy. Throw a quarter second after them. It would never fly as a winning strategy, but no one suspects you're cheating to lose.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Nope. Pick something and just keep doing it. WIthin three tries opp will pick up on it. There's no similar strategy for winning. The two are not symmetrical.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Rock paper scissors has no strategy, as long as you only play once. The moment multiple rounds are introduced, suddenly there's strategy. Knowing what your opponent played previously allows you to start making predictions on what they'll throw next.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Rock and scissors are thrown 35% of the time each, so there is strategy for a single play.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I have played rock every single time. For years and years. I figure if anything ever comes up that actually matters to me, I'll play scissors after thousands of consecutive rocks and win in a huge upset.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Losing at it is the same game essentially as winning it. You just give the winning thing a different name. That is... If A beats B and B beats C and C beats A, I can make A be rock, B be paper, C be scissors. A can be Ace, B can be King, C can be 2 (aces defeat kings because they're assassins, kings defeat peasants because peasants have to worship the king, 2 is the peasant because it's a lowly number, and peasants defeat assassins because, well, I guess there's so many of them vs one assassin) Or I can just say A is scissor, B is rock, and C is paper, and now scissors beat rock for a win condition.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I 100% of the time inform my opponent that I always use rock and then proceed to use rock. It still wins sometimes.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Ahahah my buddy showed me the rock rock rock rock rock rock ( no ways he will do rock again ) rock rock rock ! Wins often enough !

by Anonymous 8 months ago

It's as hard to get all the questions on a test wrong, as it is to get them all right.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Wrong. 1/3 chance you win. 2/3 chance you lose. Apologies to all, got lost in CGPGrey's rock papers scissors game thingy.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

A tie is not a loss

by Anonymous 8 months ago

1/3 chance you win 1/3 chance you lose 1/3 chance you tie The odds are the same whether you are trying to win or lose

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Tie is also an option

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Wrong. 1/3 chance to win 1/3 chance to lose 1/3 chance to tie

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Sorry. Got lost in CGPGreys rock papers scissors game.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

There was a Rock Paper Scissors Commercial at the SuperBowl some years ago. I didn't find it funny at all though :(

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I swear, I win a lot more than I lose in this game, and I don't know why. Well, only when it's first to 3. Somehow I always have an accurate feeling of what people will pick next based on what they picked previously. I don't win every single round, but I haven't lost a "first to 3" for as long as I can remember. I always win those. No, I don't believe in the ability to read minds and some of that psycich stuff or whatever it's called.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Not if you get a reputation for always picking in a certain order first. Then you can win whenever you want.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Man I have I 3 very competitive kids under 10. They love rock papers scissor and I wish more then anyrhing I could figure out a way to throw a game to keep them happy.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

"I am going to go Paper" they don't believe me, so they go rock, thinking I'm going to go scissors... I win again.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Single round maybe. If its best 501/1000 you opponent is going to go paper at least 34% by the time you go rock a hundred times in a row.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

not true. throw only rock, good ol rock. tell your opponent that you will be throwing only rock good ol rock. only rock, over and over and over again. much easier than winning.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I had a friend that did this, absolutely pissed me off for some reason

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Not really. Just throw a split second late. No one will call you on late throw that results in a loss.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Only if you have to pretend not to be trying to lose.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Good ol rock. Nothing beats that.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Only if your opponent is trying to prevent you from losing. Otherwise you can easily cooperate.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Not true. Rock and scissors are thrown more often than paper, so if you want to win you always throw rock and if you want to lose you always throw scissors. You need something with even probability for it to be equally as difficult to intentionally win or lose.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Only if your opponent is an idiot.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I always pick scissors cuz imma lesbian

by Anonymous 8 months ago

If anyone has watched the korean show Game of Blood Season 1, you'll know that one team couldn't even win against the other team even when the other team explicitly told them they would be losing to them.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

It's absolutely not, it's called slight hesitation

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I mean, you're not wrong.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Throw late and lose because you cheated

by Anonymous 8 months ago

I literally always go scissors, tell the person I'm going to go scissors, and will still win several in a row sometimes.

by Anonymous 8 months ago

This was literally a plot point in the Ian Fleming novel You Only Live Twice. The book opens to a geisha party where James Bond is taking sake shots with the head of the Japanese secret service Tiger Tanaka. He and Tanaka are playing a game of rock paper scissors.Tiger had promised he would beat Bondo-san. To fail would cause Tanaka to lose much face, putting Bond in an awkard position. Being Bond of course he wins best of three games, when Tanaka asks Bond his secret Bond has to improvise an answer that will save face for Tanaka. >"Bond had had no method. He quickly invented the one that would be most polite to Tiger. "You are a man of rock and steel, Tiger. I guessed that the paper symbol would be the one you would use the least. I played accordingly."

by Anonymous 8 months ago

Not really. if you keep picking always the same choice and repeat it forever no matter what, in a short time you will lose 100% of the matches

by Anonymous 8 months ago

It's not a game of luck.

by Anonymous 8 months ago