It's concerning how shoving a camera in someone's face while they're crying or having an emotional moment is becoming more acceptable, amirite?

Do your part Citizen and slap the phone from their hands!

by Magdalenacartwr 7 months ago

They will follow you around so you'd have to be able to run away too.

by gradyted 7 months ago

I don't personally agree with it, but it's the law in the US and it's well established. In public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Anyone can take your picture, anyone can take your video. That case would be a civil case, it'll never see a jury

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You are absolutely allowed to record anyone at any time in public. People can yell "you don't have my consent to record me" all they want, but if you are outside they can. Again, how do you think paparazzi can legally harass celebrities into full blown mental breakdowns? Because every time they step outside, there they are, as long as the picture takers are on public property

by Anonymous 7 months ago

This is incorrect, you have no expectation of privacy in public, anything visible in public can be recorded.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You're not legally allowed to jsut record strangers. Absolutely not true in the US or Canada.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

It's perfectly legal. It's not ethical, but it's legal. Harassment is different than just recording someone

by Anonymous 7 months ago

If the person recording s recording something that can be seen while standing in a public location, it's fair game. That includes anything in a private location that is publicly visible, like if you don't draw your curtains and people can see into your living room.

by durwardlabadie 7 months ago

What about if the video is filmed in a private property? Can the phone be thrown to outer space then?

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I'm not a lawyer, but if you're visible to the public, you can be filmed by the public as long as they're not on it. Your house is on public property, but people can take a picture of it. You can ask them not to, but creeps can get away with a lot as long as they are on public property. An entire profession is built around it in fact, the paparazzi

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Why would you be able to damage someone else's property just because they're on private property? This precedent would apply to all property, not just phones.

by Careful-Rooster 7 months ago

How old are you? That's not how it would go at all. You'd be most likely taken to civil court where a judge would make you pay for the phone. Burden of proof in civil court is much lower. Testimony is all that's needed.

by Careful-Rooster 7 months ago

They mentioned assault, which is a criminal offense in my jurisdiction, so it would go to a criminal court. They can try to go through civil court for monetary damages but the expenses to do so would likely cost them more than it would cost to replace a phone.

by Magdalenacartwr 7 months ago

Every minor skirmish between 2 people doesn't make it's way in front of a jury. "They can try to go through civil court" Yes thousands of people go to small claims court every year over broken property, including cell phones.

by Careful-Rooster 7 months ago

It was in self defence though

by Anonymous 7 months ago

To what? Someone being near you with a camera?

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Yes. In Europe, that's illegal and I would feel harassed, so I defend

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You could easily argue that it was self-defense because you did not know that the phone was not a weapon. Lol

by lhyatt 7 months ago

OR film them while they film, with the crying person out of the shot, and shame them on camera for filming an emotional moment.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I'm doing my part!

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Wow.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

It's interesting when people die. We love dirty laundry

by omari09 7 months ago

I am unfamiliar with this track.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I appreciate your concern, but let's also consider the unwilling victims of cyberbullying who didn't consent to having their worst moments spread online. It's a breach of trust and privacy, and it can cause significant emotional harm.

by Nvolkman 7 months ago

This too!!!

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Yeah and it can even take only one to do so, few seconds of your privacy that could have simply stayed in the past, and instead they reshape your life because of another one's thirst for views

by sylviamills 7 months ago

Yes and people believe they are going to be rich and famous off of a viral video.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

My favorite are the parents that feel the need to pause movies to explain consent, but then film/take pictures of their own kids and plaster it all over social media.

by OkSignature8324 7 months ago

Yes and when you point it out some assholes only retort is that it's legal?!? Like since when did legal = non asshole move?!

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Exactly. I don't think I've seen very many videos where the person screaming about their right to record wasn't a total twat.

by Affectionate-Rise748 7 months ago

I don't appreciate a phone shoved in my face without asking ever. I don't care what you want to show me. I will smack that phone from your hand and laugh when you expect me to pay for it.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You seem like a nice guy...

by Positive_Meal 7 months ago

I actually am. Just have no tolerance for when I've told people multiple I don't want their phone in my face but continue to do so. Cause and effect my friend

by Anonymous 7 months ago

He is being nice. I'll take your phone out of your hand and step on it a few times A good way to get beaten up if the person you do that to is unstable, or arrested - maybe don't get a sense of entitlement in regards to breaking other people's things.

by Jaskolskijennyf 7 months ago

Trying to show someone something that you think they'll find funny isn't exactly a phone-breaking crime. Now, what the OP was saying? Exploiting someone in vulnerable moments? That is wrong. Slap away!

by Positive_Meal 7 months ago

Trying to show someone something that you think they'll find funny isn't exactly a phone-breaking crime. I don't walk up to strangers to show them memes on my phone. if someone is going to show me something, I generally know about it and recognise that that is why they're holding their phone up.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I don't think anyone just walks up to random strangers to show them memes on their phone...

by Positive_Meal 7 months ago

exactly. so what was the point of Trying to show someone something that you think they'll find funny isn't exactly a phone-breaking crime.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Also those videos were you see someone get knocked out and they come to with 20 phones in their face recording it for social media.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

One day, someone is going to pull a gun. And I won't feel too bad for the guy with the camera.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

If your elderly dad is having a panic attack, for god's sake, go comfort him! Rub his back and tell him it's going to be ok! Imagine the level of not-caring it takes to instead point a camera at him. Social media is conditioning normal people to act like sociopaths.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Yeah that phone be going for a swim

by PrestigiousShip 7 months ago

It has always been acceptable. Emotional shots make good photo/video. Look at any tragedy and a good portion of the shots are of people crying

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Imo, filming or photographing anyone w/o consent should be illegal

by Anonymous 7 months ago

But then we give up a free press.

by durwardlabadie 7 months ago

This is not unpopular

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Legally. Legality and morality are often two very different things. And recording someone going through that is not morally justifiable even if legally it isn't going to get you punished.

by Trentonboyle 7 months ago

But you can always test how water proof someone else's phone is.

by Magdalenacartwr 7 months ago

IMO that'd be a very risky thing to advocate for 1) because you don't know the demeanor of the person, and there are some nutters out there (and you don't want to risk any kind of physical altercation), 2) that would be illegal in 3 ways - theft, destruction of property, and potentially battery, and 3) While there are people who absolutely are obnoxious about it, there will definitely be people who will use this reasoning to go after people who are being relatively reasonable or out of the way, or even doing other things not involving said person.

by Jaskolskijennyf 7 months ago

You're one of the common but naive people who think that menacing and assault require actual physical contact. Getting up in someone's face, threats and other things can justify hitting first in self-defense.

by leannonbonnie 7 months ago

Sure I can.

by Neomaschaefer 7 months ago

I've had a lot of bad days. None of them have involved me attacking others or going on racist/sexist tirades. That sorta stuff being filmed? I'm fine with that.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

?!!!! When did I mention anything about racism or sexism

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I do love how then folks do that sorta thing publicly, people are always eager to defend it.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I've had plenty of bad days where I would've been royally pissed off and thrown the camera if someone shoved it in my face. It hugely disrespectful and just shows that the person recording doesn't even care. It's all about themselves in their minds.

by Anonymous 7 months ago

If u don't have a expectation of privacy, then it's not private

by Anonymous 7 months ago

What does that even mean?!!!!

by Anonymous 7 months ago

I remember everything and everyone I have met my entire life. It's your right to film in public, it's not your right to have privacy in public

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You're just weird then

by Anonymous 7 months ago

They're also probably lying. There are about 62 people in the world diagnosed with the ability to remember everything. Either they are exaggerating and they just remember most things (that's 2-10% of children have an eidetic memory with no known cases of adults), they've got a lot of false memories they believe to be true, or you've just talked to someone that belongs to a group of 62 people out of 8 billion

by Rich-Ad-7277 7 months ago

Legally. But we as human beings should consider the moral implications of our actions first and the legal ones second. Otherwise we're no better than beasts with collars on.

by Trentonboyle 7 months ago

Yep, good point....

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Even if you believe in moral relativism like most people in the western world, "taking advantage of someone's suffering and/or moment of weakness" I'd bet will fall under most people's definition of "bad."

by Trentonboyle 7 months ago

Are you familiar at all with what an anxiety attack is.

by Trentonboyle 7 months ago

Yep, have panic and anxiety attacks often, ssri helps but still feel like I'm doing every day. Due to the ptsd of the actual song I did. Why do u ask?

by Anonymous 7 months ago

Would you be okay if someone just came up to you while having one and started filming you? And don't say "I wouldn't do that in public" because you can't always control when you have one

by Anonymous 7 months ago

You shouldn‘t film people without permission, period.

by margueritepredo 7 months ago

If I'm crying and you're filming me, you better hope your phone got insurance cuz it is getting chucked and you're getting your ass whooped.

by collinsmagdalen 7 months ago

Yes, the situation you mentioned reflects a different view of privacy and personal space in the age of social media. With the popularity of social media, people do become more comfortable sharing personal moments, even private and sensitive ones, on the Internet. This phenomenon may be due to people's desire to share their life experiences and emotional expressions, as well as their quest for recognition and attention on social media.

by Vvolkman 7 months ago

I had hidden cameras placed in my room during my first year of university, when I was in a really bad slump. People from many cities away told me they saw me on social media. I agree, it is infuriating. Almost made me reconsider doing my computer science degree if I know I might be partially responsible for this type of technology.

by Marisa21 7 months ago

I think people were always this dense and uncaring, but now it's even worse because you get rewarded with a lot of attention, internet cool points and in some cases a financial reward for doing so. Also everyone has a camera tied to the internet now.

by Anonymous 7 months ago